jacketed hunting bullets

[marquitos]

Hello everybody, living in Argentina one is a bit out of contact with the new things, would like to know which are the premium jacketed hunting bullets one could acquire for a .454 ? Nosler Partition? Trophy Bonded?
thanks in advance, mark

[Ken ONeill]

The Hornady MAGNUM ( not regular ) XTP's work well. The jacket is thicker than the earlier XTP's, prolonged use of which at top velocities may eventually wash out the forcing cone. The stronger jacket of the Magnum bullet helps prevent that problem. In the FA .475 Linebaugh, I can also tell you that the 400 gr. Magnum XTP's work very well on Argentine buffalo, and similar sized game.

[Graybeard]

The Sierra 300 JSP is also a very hard bullet that works well if you want a JSP rather than a JHP.

[Ken ONeill]

I also use the Sierra 300 JSP @ 1550 fps ( 7.5" ) and like it. I'm told that velocity is near the upper edge of what should be run with the Sierra to be sure of no undue forcing cone washout. I used that bullet to take my only African lion, and it performed well, as it has on everything else I've shot with it. For some uses though, I prefer the Magnum XTP. The Magnum version didn't exist when I shot my lion.

[Sverre A.]

I had good luck with 240 XTP MAG./1880 fps. in Africa last year.
I will also use it next week in Afrika on animals up to 400 pounds.

[doghawg]

I also use the Sierra 300 JSP @ 1550 fps ( 7.5" ) and like it. I'm told that velocity is near the upper edge of what should be run with the Sierra to be sure of no undue forcing cone washout. I used that bullet to take my only African lion, and it performed well, as it has on everything else I've shot with it. For some uses though, I prefer the Magnum XTP. The Magnum version didn't exist when I shot my lion.

 I suspect if we filled a room with people that have killed an African lion with a handgun...it wouldn't be a very crowded room. From what I'm reading would it be correct to say you'd consider both the 300 gr. XTP MAG and the 300 gr. Sierra JSP to be enough bullet for anything in the lower 48?  From the standpoint of jacket toughness and penetration?

 Also do you have your hunting pics posted anywhere?

[Ken ONeill]

Yes, but barely. I prefer the .475 Linebaugh with 400-420 gr. bullets for large bears, bison, even bull elk, and would select it for Shiras moose, over the .454. But that's a personal preference.
No, I don't have them hosted anywhere, although many have been published in  The Sixgunner, One Good Shot, Safari, The  Five Shot Journal, and John T. used one for an article in Guns.

[Sverre A.]

I arrived from SA last week - and the 240 XTP did the job on 11 animals.  The biggest was a kudu at 70 meters.
9 of the animals was shot between 60 and 120 meters.
To warthogs was shot at 7 and 14 meters.

All bullets penetrated through the animals - but one.  The warthog which was shot at 14 meters - got the XTP behind his front leg  after it has gone through a 1,5" branch. 
Underneath the skin (on the other side) - I could feel the bullet - and asked the tracker to take care of it when skinning the pig - but he could not rembember from 12 to 14!!!!!!

An impala at 68 meters was shot in the front (angling towards me) and the bullets exithole was on the backleg.

I can`t see any reason to spend more time - trying to find a bullet which can do it better.
If there are such a bullet!

[STJ]

That's pretty impressive...All that talk about needing heavy bullets...seems 240gr did the job just fine.  What velocity where they traveling?

[Sverre A.]

Sorry - but I have not been visiting the forum lately.

About 1900 fps.

And to be sure that I have enough power (if I should decide to shoot a giraf or something at that size) - I also bring with me Frontier`s 390 gr./1200 fps.

Sighted in at 110 yds with the 240 - I can shoot at 150 yds on big size animals - without any mathematical challengies..
The 390 is sighted in at 90 yds.

The 390 gr. is about 3/4 " to right - compared to the 240 at 60 yds - but that don`t mean anything - because big animals like Eland, Giraf, Buffalo - will not be shot at beyond 60 yds.

And at 60 yds - I can`t even see those "`es!

(One thing is shooting from a bench/testing loads.  Another thing is practical hunting)

[BubbaNColo]

I arrived from SA last week - and the 240 XTP did the job on 11 animals.  The biggest was a kudu at 70 meters.
9 of the animals was shot between 60 and 120 meters.
To warthogs was shot at 7 and 14 meters.

All bullets penetrated through the animals - but one.  The warthog which was shot at 14 meters - got the XTP behind his front leg  after it has gone through a 1,5" branch. 
Underneath the skin (on the other side) - I could feel the bullet - and asked the tracker to take care of it when skinning the pig - but he could not rembember from 12 to 14!!!!!!

An impala at 68 meters was shot in the front (angling towards me) and the bullets exithole was on the backleg.

I can`t see any reason to spend more time - trying to find a bullet which can do it better.
If there are such a bullet!

Is the 240 grain XTP of the magnum type or not?

[EdK]

Is the 240 grain XTP of the magnum type or not?

the .452" 240grain XTP is
the .452" 250grain XTP is not

[BubbaNColo]

I learn something every day, just checked with Midway, sure enough it's a mag for the 240 XTP
Will order a box in
I've only used two bullets in my 454, 300mag xtp, 230 Round nose .451 in 45colt at 800fps shot GREAT but can't find lead round nose like I had anymore, been looking for a cast bullet mold ever since. That's another long story.....
Did pick up some 250 lead for light loads to try but haven't loaded them yet