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Head shots or body shots? Advice
« on: July 11, 2003, 02:49:55 AM »
What do you like to shoot where?  I have a RWS 40 and am just getting started hunting with it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2003, 03:39:09 AM »
... on what you're hunting, the ranges you are hunting at, and what your hunting with. For starlings and pigeons I almost alway use chest shots - the heads are too small and move too much. For cottontail and jackrabbits, prairie dogs, tree and ground squirrel, ; if I'm hunting with a .177 always a head shot, but with .22 or .25 I'll take chest shots as well. On nutria, marmots, or fox, I'll stick to head shots with larger calibers. I think that heavy round nose pellets are the best all around, but hollowpoints work well on light bodied game, mid range shots, or out of large caliber magnum rifles. When hunting with air pistols I'll stick with .22 and up calibers on head shots. But that's just me, and I'm sure you'll get different responses. It's possible to kill almost anything with a chest shot, but remember you want to do it quickly, cleanly, and decisively.

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2003, 05:06:40 AM »
I have a .177 cal RWS scoped model 40.

A scunk is probably the biggest pest that I'd shoot, aside from bunnies and tre rats.  

30 yards would be about max (back yard).  Would a flat point be good?  Pointed?  Im looking for most effective.

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Head shots or body shots? Advice
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2003, 09:26:52 AM »
kb,

I have killed many skunks but none with a air rifle.  Reason is the only way to keep them from leaving a lasting impression around after the shot is to break the back so they can't raise their tail.  Even a head shot will let the tail raise enough to set everything in motion.  Been there before and regretted taking the shot.  As far as penetration goes the deepest penetrating pellet is the round ball then pointed, doomed, hollow point and lastly the flat nose wadcutter.  For tree squirrels head shots ONLY.  To many times a body shot on them will let them lock their claws into the bark of the tree and there they die and never fall.  The only way to get them is to climb the tree.  Head shots on bunnies is preferred but not always possible due to the bunny's habit of always moving his head.  For body shots on bunnies I prefer a pellet that opens up like soft nose bullets in centerfire rifles.  A hit in the boiler room of a bunny with a pellet like a Crow Magnum and they don't go far.  Jack rabbits are easier due to their habit of sitting up to look around before running off.  They are still as a statue and heads shots are the norm.  Go to the following link for a
report on Terminal Pellet Testing.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~ispellan/PelletTest02.html

Also go to the this link for a report on pellet penetration tests.

http://www.pyramydair.com/site/articles/pellets-vs-round-balls/

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2003, 12:13:43 PM »
All of my hunting with pellet guns have been on birds, house sparrows, starlings, and crows.  The big problem is speed, as these birds are cautious creatures when close, so I usually aim at their body. most of the time the gun is fired offhand, sometimes I can use a partial rest.  

Most of the crows have been hit at a distance on the ground, hence, they are not aware of my intent to shoot them.  I shoot out of a third floor window which allows me to aim straight to the target on the ground at 50 yards, and a few inches high at 100 yards.  As heights negate the need to allow for the rainbow trajectory effect which would normally be encountered on a level plane at ranges of around 100 yards, from rifle to target, the window position helps alot.  The last two crows I hit were measured at 56 yards, they were still alive and I had to go out and deal with them up close with whatever club I had despite solid hits in the main body.  I was using powerful .177 and .22 RWS rifles, one with a scope, and the other open sites.  I might try hitting them again, or a 3rd time to see if that helps.  My concern about head shots at longer ranges is that it might only nick part of them, and not cause fast death, so the body is chosen as the site to hit.

The hollow points have been very disapointing at 100 yards.  I can see them wander to the left and right routinely, not coming close to the target most of the time.  The pointed tips and the flat heads work really well at distance shots.  My longest shot was about 175 yards with a flat head (RWS Hobby) in .177, missed the target but was close with 2 of the shots fired.  This shot required sizeable trajectory allowance to get near them, and the rifle was a Chinese side pump, not the most powerful on the market, but it had some merit, though limited.