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Offline JeffG

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300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« on: March 01, 2008, 08:24:56 PM »
I have a 300 WSM Ruger 77 Mark II standard walnut. The rifle is great! It shot (and still does) under an inch out of the box with factory ammo. I have less that 2 boxes of shells out of it.  Here is what seems to be my dilemma.

I don't like the darned thing.

It's too powerful for deer and hogs and I won't be hunting elk or bison any time soon. If I could wriggle my nose and turn it into the same rifle in 243 or 25/06 I would shut up and be happy. What would you do?  Re barrel, or sell it and go get another rifle? ::)

Thanks for your input...JeffG
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 02:58:44 AM »
I'd buy another rifle. It is a sub-moa rifle with factory ammo ... it should be an easy sale.

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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 03:32:54 AM »
Another option is to hand load your own ammo. Taylor the load to what your needs at this time. that way years down the road when you want to hunt larger game you have it. This is my opinion.
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 04:32:26 AM »
Yeah, if you're gonna shoot much, sooner or later you're gonna have to learn how to reload. Might as well make it sooner 'cause ammo ain't gettin' no cheaper.  Then, you can lighten up on your loads and once you get to shooting regular, you may find that thing don't kick as bad as you thought. :D

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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 06:29:58 AM »
Thanks for the replies so far! Don't get me wrong guys, the recoil is not the problem.  It's very manageable! The blast and meat damage are a little much. With 180 gr Federals the penetration on a 300 lb hog was on par with a 30/06 180 on a different hog. (the same day) The meat damage was quite a bit more, and the bullet shed its jacket along the way to the opposite shoulder.
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 03:12:19 AM »
Thanks for the replies so far! Don't get me wrong guys, the recoil is not the problem.  It's very manageable! The blast and meat damage are a little much. With 180 gr Federals the penetration on a 300 lb hog was on par with a 30/06 180 on a different hog. (the same day) The meat damage was quite a bit more, and the bullet shed its jacket along the way to the opposite shoulder.

JeffG -

This sounds more like a bullet selection problem than a cartridge problem.  One thing you need to understand is that just because a manufacturer loads a bullet in a particular cartridge does not meant that it is a particularly good choice for a given application.  Nosler, for example, specifies the maximum impact velocity for the Ballistic Tip at 3000fps, then loads the 110g BT to 3520fps in the .257 Weatherby.  At that velocity the bullet doesn't drop to acceptable velocities (by Nosler standards) until past the 200-yard line.  My own maximum impact velocity for the BT bullets, especially the small diameter variety like the .257, is much less - more like 2600fps.  Using that figure the Nosler load doesn't work until past the 385-yard line.

Loading the .300WSM down is a great way to go if you reload.  If not, simply choose a better bullet like the AccuBond or, even better, the Barnes TSX/TTSX/MRX or Speer Trophy Bonded, all loaded by Federal.

Rebarreling may not work as well as you would wish because the bolt face is opened up to accept the WSM case head, which is a .535".  The .25-06 or .243 you are thinking of have a case head diameter of .473.  There is also the issue of the magazine follower and feed lips which may not work well with the smaller diameter cartridges.

If you really don't want the .300 WSM, trading the rifle would be the route I would take.
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 04:52:20 AM »
Maybe you should consider keeping the thing.  Ruger isn't making any more of them in that caliber due to issues with the lawsuit and patents (i.e. Rick Jamieson).  I wonder what kind of value it might accrue over time? 
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 06:07:11 AM »
Very good point, Coyote Hunter. What the ammo makers decide is best ain't always best. Another good reason to get into reloading. ;)

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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 05:13:55 PM »
Some very good points here, thanks!  I have decided to hang on to it, choose my bullets better, and wheedle a 25/06 out of this years budget! ;D  Thanks again, guys!
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 04:57:31 AM »
You oughta get you a 7-08. It's the deer/hawg rifle the 25-06 wisht it was. ;)

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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 10:14:28 AM »
If you want a different cal. why not just buy another rifle? I have 3 different .17 cal. rifles all in different round. I have 5 different .22 cal rounds in rifles and another in a handgun. You cannot have to many guns.

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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2008, 08:11:03 PM »
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Re: 300 WSM Ruger...rebarrel or sell?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2008, 07:10:32 AM »
just this Ol'Coot's opinion, but there ain't no such thing as too dead.

So by reloading, or paying through the nose for factory ammo both situations can readily be solved.

A quality bullet such as the 165/180/200gr Nosler Partition out of my 300 win mag provids less meat damage, by far, then what I have personally seen with the low and slow 30/30.

Presently, I shoot the 165gr as it seems to shoot best in my rifle/tests. Flat and fast!

Secondly, reload to whatever vel. level you desire and shoot one rifle.

Remember what the old folk say about the hunter with one rifle.

Personally, I have never felt or seen that my 300wm was over kill on our North Idaho Whitetail, and the same rifle/load is the one to go on an elk or moose trip.

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