cat bear and coyote dog ?

[jutah]

what do you guys think can you make one dog into cat bear and coyote dog . if so what bread do you think would be the best I'm not color blind when it comes to dogs

[Ghostman]

I've run hounds for 20+ years in Maine and I've seen a few smart dogs that were able  to run multiple types of game but you need to be smarter than the hound or you're going to end up with a trash runner and never know what the dogs is trailing.

I'd would concentrate on getting a dog or pup from an established/proven big game line of dogs rather than a specific breed. Avoid hot nosed competition bred treeing idiot lines of dogs (especially Walkers). I'd suggest the following lines for big game bred hounds -

Bluetick - Cameron, Sebastion
Plott - Weems, Dollins, Star Mountain
Black & Tan - McDonald
Walkers - Nance, Myers, Finley River

[Dee]

Of that list, I would go for the Plott. And would agree that trying to train dogs on multiple game, usually results in a trashing dog. JMO

[jutah]

well guys it sounds like you know what your talking about I've ran hounds for 13 years not long enough to know anything my dogs show me that all the time some chases i cuss them the whole race then they put a lion or bobcat or bear out of the hat i run my own line of plott and plott crosses i thought i would throw this out their to see if any one thought different then i did about it i would like to get a coyote dog

[Dee]

As they say on tv GO GREYHOUND. They are definitely good coyote dogs.

[jutah]

ghostman you know their is good dogs and bad dogs in all breads, don't you .That put aside i wouldn't waste feed on another walker. I've owned and hunted around over a dozen i don't think their is many good ones as bad ones at least not in utah

[encore58]

They run Plott hounds a lot around the Woodbury Wildlife area here in Central Ohio.

[rex6666]

Have any of you crossed a good hound with an Airedale, have had a couple of Airedales
but never had a chance to cross them.

[Stuart C.]

I'm just curious as I have nill hound experience, but why the decline in Walker type hounds?  And what is meant by "Avoid hot nosed competition bred treeing idiot lines of dogs (especially Walkers)."  I'm not doubting the validity of the statement; it just sounds a lot like the rub with field trial bred bird dogs over-running birds and dogs placed on race and not hunt being bred.  Similar breed development, or no?? Edumacate me, please.

[Dee]

Usually a hot nosed dog, cannot (or will not) work a cold trail. They instead will have a tendency to lay back and let a cold nose dog work the trail until it warms the trail up (gets closer to the game). Then the hot nose will work ahead of the slower dog, and tree the game, thereby getting the credit for the tree.
In the field under actual hunting conditions these type of dogs (hot nose dogs) are useless, unless you accidentally dump them out right on top of a hot track, or you have a cold nose dog, figuring out the track.

[Ghostman]

The Walker breed have been bred to long for UKC & PKC nite hunt competitions. Most lines of Walkers are to hot nosed to make a good big game hound. They run big, cross a hot track and tree. Most don't have the nose to work a cold track which is needed for big game dogs.

The Nance bred Walkers were exceptional big game dogs but that line has just about died out.

[deadduck]

 i had some black and tans i use now for coon here in pa