Author Topic: I wonder if NEF has looked into chambering a handi in..... (Read 2192 times)

R.W.Dale · « **on:** August 24, 2007, 07:20:11 PM »

6.8SPC This little round seems to be gaining a lot of favor and would make a nice addition to HEF's barrel line up. It would fit rather nicely in between 30-30 and 243 as another option for the recoil sensitive.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2007, 07:31:08 PM »

They could since they already do a 270...but then...they could do a 257 Roberts as well

Wouldn't both be nice to have

...but...I would like to see them do a 260 Rem first...There have been a bunch of folks waiting on that round to be done

Mac

greg916 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2007, 01:33:13 AM »

If the 6.8SPC was offered I would be first in line to buy!! From what I have read, I think it would be perfect for open hardwoods deer hunting. Might even replace my beloved 30-30

I understand the 6.8SPC has some serious competition from the 6.8 Grendel as a possible replacement for our military round. If the military does not accept the 6.8, do you think it will survive as a sporting round? The only 6.8 I have seen was a Ruger.

xhare · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:44:30 AM »

Just about every manufacturer in the AR-15 business has 6.8 rifles or at least upper receivers it seems. Remington has made a couple of bolt actions but none have seemed to catch on and it is hard to tell what they are offering at any given time. Ruger has their Mini 6.8 Ranch rifle (a perfect combo for this cartridge if there ever was one). As far as I know Remington, Hornady, and Silver State? are the only manufacturers of factory ammo. Ill be surprised if the military ever fully adopts either the 6.8 or 6.5, history shows that they are very reluctant to make such changes.

I have wanted a Handi 6.8 for a while. I think one done in a superlight format would be great if they could make it shoot. If not, I would want it in some field version like a stainless , not some pseudo "tactical" version done in an attempt to capitalize on its military roots.

It should be relatively easy for them to do since they already have .270 barrels. Problem is that I think interest would be high initially, but sales would then reduce after folks like me got theirs, unless it proved to be a real tack driver. If folks on this sight got word of that, its sales would remain steady I think. This sight is the best advertising NEF has.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:51:30 AM »

You can also get an Encore barrel chambered for the little 6.8 which in fact is the route I've taken.

xhare · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2007, 02:53:55 AM »

I was just going to add that. If memory serves you can get an Encore or Contender, rifle or pistol from Thompson. They were one of the first to get to market with a firearm. Also I believe barrels are .277 not .270 I mentioned earlier. Trying to rely on my memory has it pitfalls for sure.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2007, 03:01:18 AM »

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Also I believe barrels are .277 not .270 I mentioned earlier. Trying to rely on my memory has it pitfalls for sure.

Both 270 winchester and 6.8spc use the same .277 diameter bullets as well as the same bore dimensions.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2007, 05:30:04 AM »

Wayne York has been doing quite a few of the 6.8 barrels for folks out there....he says it's a great little cartridge..very accurate...I don't think he has done any re bore/re chambers on any Handi's yet...but..it is possible...

Mac

bluebayou · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2007, 05:45:15 AM »

No offense to anyone, but are the Remingtons available? I tried to get one earlier this year and they weren't instock anywhere which made me think that they weren't made yet.

greg916 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2007, 06:03:23 AM »

I thought Remington made the Model 7 in 6.8spc. I just searched Davidsons and they only showed the Bushmaster and Ruger Ranch rifle, neither in stock.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2007, 06:08:31 AM »

Quote from: bluebayou on August 25, 2007, 05:45:15 AM

No offense to anyone, but are the Remingtons available? I tried to get one earlier this year and they weren't instock anywhere which made me think that they weren't made yet.

There are several for sale on gunbroker.com, Just search 6.8 in bolt action rifles

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2007, 06:29:46 AM »

RR only lists one 6.8 chambered rifle which they have 14 in stock.

Tim

http://rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=G7505

bluebayou · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2007, 07:42:07 AM »

Not to hijack, but I didn't know that they made the 700 in this caliber. That is too tacticool for me. I can't see the point in that round with HS Precision stock, heavy barrel, etc. To each his own.

I was looking for the Model 7. In 6.8 or 7.62x39 would be a cool little rifle.

Will probably go 260 or 7-08 if I can find it next year.

xhare · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2007, 08:36:03 AM »

Here is one I found on their website.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_SPS_specs.asp

It is not a Model 7, and if it is not a misprint a 26 inch barrel and only holds 3 rounds.

Food for thought.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2007, 11:05:35 AM »

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I can't see the point in that round with HS Precision stock, heavy barrel, etc. To each his own.

Well...many folks don't see the need for it in a 223 either...but I think it is one of the best stocks available...and it is aimed at the LE crowd...This is my Winchester HV 223...it was built the same time the Sharp Shooter series was...It is a tack driver..

Once you get to shoot a rifle that is in one of them...you will see what a good stock is all about...

Mac

bluebayou · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2007, 12:46:32 PM »

oh, I understand the HS Precision stock, don't get me wrong. I would love to have one for either my Remington 7-08 or my Winchester 270, both are fantastic shooters.

The feel of the stock is great, it is synthetice without that hollow, toylike sound and feel.

I am all for a consistent stock, I guess that I was just busting on the people buying 6.8mm stuff because it is tactical, mall ninja kind of stuff. I can't see the point of the 6.8 for a police type rifle other than the "gee whiz" factor. If you have a PSS, or whatever Remington calls it now, in 223 then what does the 6.8 really offer to the policeman? I understand what the point of the 6.8mm was to be in an M16 series rifle with the limitation of the magazine size.

I am hijacking the thread.........

MAN, IF THERE WAS AN NEF IN 6.8mm I WOULD BUY IT IN A HEARTBEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

poncaguy · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2007, 03:39:29 PM »

I have a 15" Encore 6.8 Rem, very accurate with Hornady and Remington factory rounds, 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards..............really like the round, very mild recoil.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:28:44 AM »

Quote from: bluebayou on August 25, 2007, 12:46:32 PM

oh, I understand the HS Precision stock, don't get me wrong. I would love to have one for either my Remington 7-08 or my Winchester 270, both are fantastic shooters.

The feel of the stock is great, it is synthetice without that hollow, toylike sound and feel.

I am all for a consistent stock, I guess that I was just busting on the people buying 6.8mm stuff because it is tactical, mall ninja kind of stuff. I can't see the point of the 6.8 for a police type rifle other than the "gee whiz" factor. If you have a PSS, or whatever Remington calls it now, in 223 then what does the 6.8 really offer to the policeman? I understand what the point of the 6.8mm was to be in an M16 series rifle with the limitation of the magazine size.

I am hijacking the thread.........

MAN, IF THERE WAS AN NEF IN 6.8mm I WOULD BUY IT IN A HEARTBEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well...you could always have one done by Oregunsmithing...

Wayne can do one for ya if you want one bad enough...I will say...if HS Precision ever made their stocks available for the NEF I would spring for a set or 2...even though I know it would be over $300 per set...After shooting my Winchester...I really appreciate them more than most synthetics around...

Mac

nomosendero · « **Reply #18 on:** August 26, 2007, 08:47:25 AM »

What does "mall ninja" mean ? Maybe I should ask Mr. Zumbo.

I kinda lost interest in the 6.8, but the 6.5 Grendel is a different matter. I spanks the 6.8 bad down range.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #19 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:03:43 AM »

I've never heard it used before either.

Tim

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mall+ninja

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #20 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:04:54 AM »

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I spanks the 6.8 bad down range.

So does any other number of cartridges. The problem with the 6.5G is you cannot get but one brand of rifle chambered in it you're limited to ammo from one source (the wolf deal appears to have fell through) brass is prohibitively expensive. And lastly inside 300 yds the difference in ballistics between the two is rather meaningless.

If I'm going to do serious shooting beyond 300yds there are many better choices than the 6.5G or the 6.8spc especially in the world of single shots

nomosendero · « **Reply #21 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:11:17 AM »

Quote from: krochus on August 26, 2007, 09:04:54 AM

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I spanks the 6.8 bad down range.

So does any other number of cartridges. The problem with the 6.5G is you cannot get but one brand of rifle chambered in it you're limited to ammo from one source (the wolf deal appears to have fell through) brass is prohibitively expensive. And lastly inside 300 yds the difference in ballistics between the two is rather meaningless.

If I'm going to do serious shooting beyond 300yds there are many better choices than the 6.5G or the 6.8spc especially in the world of single shots

Krochus, that is all correct. My interest in the 6.5 will be for an AR platform & probably a couple of years away. By then the brass & other items will be more common & if not, I will drop the idea.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:17:14 AM »

Quote from: nomosendero on August 26, 2007, 09:11:17 AM

Quote from: krochus on August 26, 2007, 09:04:54 AM
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I spanks the 6.8 bad down range.

So does any other number of cartridges. The problem with the 6.5G is you cannot get but one brand of rifle chambered in it you're limited to ammo from one source (the wolf deal appears to have fell through) brass is prohibitively expensive. And lastly inside 300 yds the difference in ballistics between the two is rather meaningless.

If I'm going to do serious shooting beyond 300yds there are many better choices than the 6.5G or the 6.8spc especially in the world of single shots

Krochus, that is all correct. My interest in the 6.5 will be for an AR platform & probably a couple of years away. By then the brass & other items will be more common & if not, I will drop the idea.

A year ago I thought the same way as you did about the 6.5G vs the 6.8 today it appears as if the two rounds positions are reversed. The 6.8 is becoming ever more popular and accessible while the 6.5G is being heavily licensed into obscurity.

greg916 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 26, 2007, 01:40:28 PM »

I wonder if NEF would chamber a 6.5 grendel, they don't chamber any other of the short,fat rounds.

The 6.8 was never intended for long range, but for 300 meters or less. I still think it would be an ideal eastern whitetail cartridge.

When I got my CCW, the instructor had a 6.5 and a 50 cal ( don't know the name of the 50) I was allowed to shoot. The 6.5 barrel was longer than any AR15 barrel I have ever seen. Wonder what the downrange ballistics would be in a short 16" - 20" tube?

dumgunny · « **Reply #24 on:** August 27, 2007, 05:51:51 PM »

I got three words for you's guys...........
.338 federal!!!!!!

superdown · « **Reply #25 on:** August 27, 2007, 06:02:29 PM »

where are the other two words ?

Mac11700 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 27, 2007, 06:36:03 PM »

Quote from: dumgunny on August 27, 2007, 05:51:51 PM

I got three words for you's guys...........
.338 federal!!!!!!

Why...a 338-06 A-Square would be better IMHO...and give more bang for the buck too...

Mac

bluebayou · « **Reply #27 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:27:17 PM »

Who is Mr. Zumbo?

bluebayou · « **Reply #28 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:28:39 PM »

Ahhh, the "black rifles bad" guy.........

Lazermule · « **Reply #29 on:** August 28, 2007, 03:42:56 AM »

How about a Handi Survivor in 454 Casull? I think that would make a good pack gun. Actually I'd like to have one for my kid, so he could work his way up from the 45 LC into the Casull as his recoil taste improves. I did order one in the 45LC for him, but a 454 would be awful nice. Don't get me wrong, I can load up the 45 LC to some pretty potent power and it is a good load but it would be nice to be able to buy that power off the shelf in the 454 if needed. Currently in the 45 LC I am getting nearly 1600fpe with a 250 grn XTP in my Contender pistol. I'm not sure but I have heard that the Handi rifles can be loaded up along the same guidlines as the Contender. Now I definately won't just drop one of my contender loads in this Handi, but I will work up a load for it and report back here for anyone interested.

Anyone know if the Survivor in 45LC/.410 is drilled and tapped for a scope? If not, can it be? Dealer said it was, but the web page doesn't mention it.

LAZER