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Offline WN

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1894 357
« on: June 03, 2003, 03:42:20 AM »
I just picked up a used 1894 in 357mag.  It is an older rifle  still in the origional box.  I plan to let my 12 year old use it to hunt deer in here in VA.  Where we hunt a 75 yard shot is a long shot.  I plan on using the Hornady 140gr XTP load in it.  Is this a good load for this rifle.  It does not have a scope on it.  I would like to put a low power scope on it.  The only low power scopes i can find are the shot gun scopes with circle type reticles.  What are your opinions on this scope.  When I look through them they seem very busy around the cross hairs.

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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2003, 04:03:22 AM »
Go on Ebay and do a search for Weaver Scope, Redfield Scope and others if you like. You can get K2.5's etc. for $40-60.    Best of luck to your 12 year old.

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2003, 07:14:57 AM »
Actually, WN, if you're handloading, I'd go with a 180 or 200 grain hardcast bullet. The 140 grain XTP opens up awfully easily. My opinion only.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2003, 04:38:17 AM »
I had one of the early 1894s in 357.  It was a real shooter.  I had a cheap 4X scope on it but it did just fine with open sights at the distances I shot with it.  I killed several big Idaho mule deer with it, all within 100 yards.  I loaded the Speer 180gr fn bullet with the load that is in the Speer#9 manual under Rifle data.  You can't crimp in the canalure because it makes the overall length too long.  I used 38 brass and it would crimp good enough to work.  

Looking back, and also looking at newer data the loads from that manual may be too hot for a marlin.  They were developed in a converted Win 92.  There are better bullets to use now days.  I would stick with a 180 gr bullet.  The XTPs are good and so are the Remington 180gr sjhp.  You can get the Remingtons from Midway at a really great price.  My oponion is that most of the 140 gr jacketed bullets are just too lightly constructed to get good penetration.  In that barrel with the micro grove rifleing, to get good accuracy at the volicities you need to shoot deer, I wouldn't use a cast bullet.  They shoot good at low vloicities but not at higher volicities.  However, you could try some of the really hard cast 180gr cast bullets and they may work fine.  It may pay off to try some 180fr Laser Cast.

I hope my rambling helps you,
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