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Watch your background!
« on: July 19, 2007, 08:42:10 AM »
This weekend I am going to go through Calendar pictures.  I may send you an email asking you to fix some things in your pictures to make them better.

One of problems with some of the pictures is backgrounds, particularly the indoor pictures.

Here's some examples of what I am talking about.

First cluttered background.  Pictures of Zulu Kings , book on South Afrcian culture and a row of cast bullets for the Martini Henry have nothing to do with cannons.  Books on Cannons, old sailing ships and cannon balls might work.  But crop the picture to get rid of the shelf edge



Two tone backgrounds don't work, they make lines especially right through part of the gun. We want to see the gun, lines draw your eye away fom the cannon and look ugly.   This is a problem when taking pictures on desk tops.  Make sure you have contrast between your gun and the back ground.





A simple background can be made from a solid color blanket or even and old sheet.  I have green felt and red suede that I bought just for picture taking.  Here's how I set up a background for this post.



When you do set up a back ground cloth, pay attention, does it have wrinkle in it--iron the wrinkles out.



 Or, just use your software and crop the wrinkle out.



Just pay attention to the small details and you will have a better pictures.



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Re: Watch your background!
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2007, 08:47:18 AM »
Picky, picky, picky.  ;D


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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2007, 09:45:50 AM »
DD you give pretty good advice on taking pictures for a cannon and mortar group. I'm just getting interested in photography, so Thanks! One thing that I don't know if you have addressed is point of view. I have seen quite a few pictures looking down on the cannon or mortar. Those kind of snapshots are ok but a better POV will make it a photo.  BTW are you a member over at thephotoforum.com?

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Re: Watch your background!
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2007, 10:05:13 AM »
Great tips !! I am going to try the background blanket. There is alot of clutter in my photos as well as shadows of me shooting the photo !! Thanks DD .

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2007, 04:18:53 PM »
DD you give pretty good advice on taking pictures for a cannon and mortar group. I'm just getting interested in photography, so Thanks! One thing that I don't know if you have addressed is point of view. I have seen quite a few pictures looking down on the cannon or mortar. Those kind of snapshots are ok but a better POV will make it a photo.  BTW are you a member over at thephotoforum.com?

Yes I have covered perspective. Tips for taking better pictures


Nope, don't belong to the photforum. I'll have to take a look.  Problem is that most of those boards like that, that I have visited so far talk so far over my head....

I just try to share the itty bitty bits of knowledge that I remember from the "tintype" photography class I took in High school back the 1960's.


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Re: Watch your background!
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 12:06:13 AM »
Picky, picky, picky.  ;D

YES!  That's how quality is achieved!

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 03:48:56 AM »
Wow what have I done!!! I just went through the Calendar picutures.  We have great guns here.  Wee need to add a bunch more months in a year so we can get them all in.  I capturesd 35 pictures so far.

Call me a wuss, but I aint gonna select!  You are!   I figured out how to post the pictures as thumbnails in a poll.  In mid September  will post up all the pictures and you guys can select the 13 best picures for the Calendar.   

I have sent some of you an email  opr PM asking you to fix a couple of things in your pictures.  Please just modify you original post when you do that then drop me a reply PM or Email so I will know its been fixed.


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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 04:21:14 AM »
I found a way to get you all on the calendar.

How about this for the cover?




Sorry Time, cat kissing moose and eagle eating cat didn't make the cut...no cannon or cannon balls

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2007, 07:14:27 AM »
DD -

I didn't expect the Cat/Moose nor the Cat/Eagle to make it into THIS calendar, but thanks for the work of putting the collage together!
Douglas, you should have put the one in there with you pointing that muzzle loader!  People in the pictures come alive!

We should consider several options: 

12 months :  12 pictures
12 months :  24 pictures (more?)
14 or 18 months - 14 or 18/36 pictures.

Size and shape are interesting principles with which to work.  Note that the aspect ratio of 35mm film is 4:5 (4 units high and 5 units wide) much the same as what the eyes see.  Most calendars are printed this way.  Note that DD has put the collage together using square format - not an easy task considering the cropping needed.

I'd like to suggest 12 months and 24 pictures (perhaps a few more) such that two pictures are displayed for each month - with a small printing (in white or black letters placed in some blank area of one of the pictures) of the days/dates of the month and a few words of description of each picture.

If done in time I will order a BUNCH of these for Christmas!




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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2007, 07:25:58 AM »
OH NO!

NO WAY!

IT CAN'T BE!

NOT ONE PICTURE WITH A POWDER CAN IN IT!

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2007, 07:27:31 AM »
Note that the aspect ratio of 35mm film is 4:5 ...

While 35 mm prints conventionally have this aspect ratio (4x5, 8x10), the raw image is actually 24mm x 36mm.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2007, 08:02:52 AM »
Note that the aspect ratio of 35mm film is 4:5 ...

While 35 mm prints conventionally have this aspect ratio (4x5, 8x10), the raw image is actually 24mm x 36mm.

Digital cameras, at least in my limited experience, follow the same format as the most common display modes, 3:4 (3 high x 4 wide).

800x600, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1280x960, etc.

I tend to stick to this aspect ratio when cropping and/or resizing, as most of my pictures are posted online. I do make exceptions when a specific print size is needed, or when cropping to a standard aspect ration would include a lot of extraneous background.

With my current host, bandwidth allowance is not really a concern (I have way more than I need). But I got in the habit early on of trying to get the most detail out of the least amount of pixels. Old habits die hard.

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2007, 09:06:25 AM »
that cover looks super!!! Double D, i'm all for more than one pic for a month, the calendar should be chock full of cannons and mortars. it should have so many, that when the year is up: the calendar becomes a coffee table book...............
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2007, 10:09:08 AM »
OH NO!

NO WAY!

IT CAN'T BE!

NOT ONE PICTURE WITH A POWDER CAN IN IT!



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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2007, 11:17:37 AM »
I stand corrected!  3:4 is what I should have remembered!  Can't find my CRS notebook!

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 03:08:49 PM »
Doug, that is a great idea for the cover...COOL!!! 8)

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2007, 03:40:08 PM »

Sorry Time, cat kissing moose and eagle eating cat didn't make the cut...no cannon or cannon balls
??? You cant pique my curiosity and not show the pictures.
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2007, 03:50:29 PM »
The first place I checked with for a Calendar was GBO Gear.  Unfortunately the calendar offered there is single page calendar.  That might work for the collage.  I'll have to check with Graybeard and see if we can get our collage picture instead the stock picture?

What I have been looking at is the calendar offered by my Photo host site. Cannon Calender

Which do you folks prefer?




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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2007, 03:54:54 PM »

Sorry Time, cat kissing moose and eagle eating cat didn't make the cut...no cannon or cannon balls
??? You cant pique my curiosity and not show the pictures.


Here ya go...

Well, ONE of the three should qualify for THIS calendar.








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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2007, 05:49:07 PM »
From the original post!

Try to work something in to show the scale of you cannon.  We use the Powder can a lot but we don't want this calendar to be an advertisement for  GOEX.  We want to show off our guns. So unless you can work the can in as an unobtrusive part of the background leave it out.

The pictures must be of your cannon.  Static or in action.

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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2007, 07:09:49 PM »
You can work in more pictures per month by using the extra undated day boxes for small images.  For example, for July 2008 which begins on a Tuesday and ends on a Thursday, you could have a large image on the back of the previous month at the top and two small images in the Sunday and Monday boxes before the 1st and two more small images in the Friday and Saturday boxes after the 31st.

And March 2008 would give you room for an extra 11 small images.

You might also include URLs with each of the small images linked to a site with large versions of the small images.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2007, 12:27:41 PM »
I thought the eagle was actually devouring the cat. I'm trying to get a calendar together too. ;D
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2007, 01:10:38 PM »
I think it was meant as 'eagle-eating cat', as in a cat that stalks wild eagles.
 

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2007, 02:18:10 PM »


 Everytime, I see this I think. "Here Kitty, Kitty".....

 Anyway, point taken regarding the background. I know I have a couple photos that I'll be posting in the near future.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2007, 03:03:27 PM »
What I have been looking at is the calendar offered by my Photo host site. Cannon Calender

Which do you folks prefer?


All I see at the link is a coffee mug.  Couldn't find any calendars.
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2007, 03:11:46 PM »
hey i don't drink coffee, i want a calendar................
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2007, 03:28:21 PM »
Sorry Lance I love coffee, but I also want a calendar... :D

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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2007, 03:31:53 PM »
o.k. El Caz, i'll trade the mug for your calendar ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2007, 03:41:11 PM »
thanks Terry C
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