Well, we stuck the deal at $500 because it comes with some stuff, a holster, RCBS carbide dies, some brass and factory shells, the rear sight, and a mounted tasco red dot scope. And I'm guessing (I don't have it here yet) that it is a 629-3 or 4 because he bought it new more than 5 years ago. It's a private, local transaction so no tax or shipping fees. I may take the red dot off and put a 2X scope in its place or just use the factory sights. I'll be picking it up later this week.