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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2007, 07:21:52 PM »
Welcome Back Wes ! ! !    ;D
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2007, 11:24:18 AM »
Glad to be back Captain,

I'm setting up to start drilling and noticed that the end of the barrel sticks over the end of my chip tray and I'll have to build a little rain gutter so I don't lose all my cutting fluid all over my floor. I'll try and get some pictures up after work tomorrow.
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2007, 08:01:12 AM »
Wes, That yeller stuff is SO Purty!
How did the "cheroot canes" come out? (as I use a "leanin'stick" I surely do want one, Imagine, carrying a cannon in public!)

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2007, 09:17:56 AM »
Why can't you say Christmas?  Are the diversity police after you?
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2007, 11:41:45 AM »
Got some more pictures:O) I decided to make a starter hole for my bit. So I drilled a hole and bored it to size. I have the barrel supported with my steady rest.




Santa Dave, I have them bored out now. I still need to finish the base, so I can mount them to the canes. I have a jig about made so I can hold them in my mill.
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2007, 08:55:11 AM »
Kind of got me on the edge of my seat now Wes ., it looks like your chewing thru Gold !!! "Pure Money"  That tiger striped bronze cleaned up nicely .
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2008, 10:23:27 AM »
I'm Back! Getting excited again about building these cannons. I bored the end out to accept the drill bit and keep everything centered. Here is a picture of my drilling settup. It's going good, just kinda slow going. I bought another bit so I can go longer before touching them up on the grinder at work.


When drilling, the chips flow out good for a while then they start to get bound up and I have to pull out and clear them out. But their coming:O) I'm pretty happy with the drill bit I made.

Later, Wes
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2008, 10:52:18 AM »
They back up even with the through-the-drill coolant?  Maybe you need to increase the pressure/flow.
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2008, 11:20:13 AM »
I just need a bigger pump. I think this one will get me through though.

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2008, 01:10:38 PM »
You could raise the head stock end about 6"   :D  maybe not that much, to get 1/4" per foot.

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2008, 10:40:11 AM »
Wes,

     Mike and I have been waiting for this post; Tropico is one lucky guy to have you making these tubes for him!  The regular, stop to clear the chips, routine is well known here as well.  Even with 90 psi air, pushing a water/sol mist, you still have to stop and do this.  For a 1.5" or larger bore, we believe you have chosen a very good method, because the large amount of bore volume created after you get just a few inches into the tube from the muzzle-face lowers your pressure available to push liquid or mist and chips out of the bore.  There is a way we could both solve this problem though.  We know a fellow who uses high pressure cutting oil, 900 psi, to clear chips during his gundrilling of .243 Win. barrels.  Now a larger bore like our 1.167", 1/6 scale Parrott Rifle or your 1.500" Naval Gun bore would probably require less, BUT, could you imagine what your shop would look like, if an oil supply fitting failed???  Oh my!! :o :o :o :o

     Like you say, a larger pump will probably do it, and maybe a third compressor hooked in tandem will do it for us.  Can't wait to see that beauty after she is turned and polished!

Regards,

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2008, 04:30:56 PM »
I think part of the problem also is I'm using the smallest spade bit for that size drill shaft. There isn't much room between the drill shaft and the bore of the hole. Mainly near the spade bit where the drill shaft has to be bigger to hold the bit. It's going good, just a lot slower than I anticipated.

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2008, 02:25:17 PM »
Still going steady. Drill a .250' or so pull out, clear the chips out repeat. Sharpen the bit every few inches. This is taking longer than I expected. But It's steady ;D

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2008, 11:47:12 AM »
Wahoo! Got the other bronze barrel drilled!!!

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2008, 01:52:29 PM »
Wes., I am back from the Philippines. The photos look great !

Wow., Awesome Wes., I think that 1.5" bore was a good choice there looks to be plenty of meat left for a buffed tube. Yes Seacoast., I am no machinist., but I am grateful.  ;D . I know these will be perfect for my needs. My first real pic of something Wes did in a naval cannon was for another board member. I believe it was called a "Boat Howitzer" now that cannon was a good looking piece of Bronze Wes turned., So something kind of like that in a bigger model will stir the natives !!!
Thanks Wes !!!
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2008, 12:39:57 PM »
Still pluggin away. I've got one more to drill:O)

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2008, 04:54:25 PM »
That's  a long haul Wes. 6 Long -Bores . I am very grateful and by the way ., I am certain my great grand-children will be  grateful too.  After all cannons are for-ever. ;D  thanks again Wes. Soon the Fun will be upon us ., I am really excited to see what you do with the outer barrels.
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2008, 12:20:13 PM »
Well I made some more progress. I've been working like a dog and haven't had any free time. On top of that Work has been sending me to school to learn how to run the new CNC lathe they just bought. I've been learning some cad also along the way.

I finished drilling Tropico's barrels a while back and have held off building them because I wanted them to be extra nice;o) Last weekend Work let me go in and play a bit:o) Here is what I ended up with. They are 26" long with a 1.5" bore.



In the next week or so, the trunnions will be added. I'll make sure I get some pictures of that.

Later, Wes
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2008, 01:09:52 PM »
ooooh, aaaaahh....Tropico, Santa is coming early to your house!!!!!!
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2008, 01:16:38 PM »
DAAAAAAAAM THATS COOL!!  :o Nice Job Wes, Tropico you lucky Dawg ;D
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2008, 04:01:41 PM »
Wes, as a fellow barrel maker, my hat is off to you! The quality and repeatability you have achieved takes a dedicated professional!

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2008, 12:45:42 AM »
Wes, those are indeed things of beauty, even the photo of the six tubes looks like it could be hanging in a gallery. Of course we all Know that Tropico is too fair-minded a man to show any favoritism for any specific barrel or barrels out of the sextuplets, especially the two in the middle.
Tropico, start preparing the camera it looks like the time for recording the firing of a broadside is getting near.
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2008, 03:03:53 AM »
Those are sure pretty.
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2008, 03:42:26 AM »
Wes, I've said this before, I think I love you! Nice stuff! And, I think those Somalis better be on their game, if they ever venture into Tropico's neck of the seas. Great work! Enjoy, MIKE
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2008, 05:08:38 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Speechless  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2008, 06:47:57 AM »
we dont care if you are speeachless   ;D ;D ;D

WE WANT TO SEE AND HEAR THOSE BARRELS SPEAK BY THEMSELF   ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2008, 04:22:45 PM »
I think I have some more pictures around here some where... Where are they??????

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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2008, 12:19:01 PM »
Worked on these all weekend. I managed to get the trunnion pockets milled into the barrels and threaded. Tropico needs the trunnions to be removable for shipping. Here are the pictures.

The mill has a table that is 25" X 60"


Here is an action shot. I'm using a 1/2" carbide endmill to get through that stainless.


Here is the finished pocket. Looks pretty ;D I had to move the trunnions so the barrels wouldn't point at the ground all the time.


The old CNC is kind of like a "Bull in a China store" when it comes to threading. Better to do this by hand.


Hope you enjoy them, Wes
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2008, 03:13:29 PM »
Wow.  Those are beautiful!
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Re: Tropico's Six Pack
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2008, 05:32:59 PM »
Thanks for all the kind words guys

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