Having a couple of hundred pounds of scrap lead around that i use for my muzzleloaders and a bunch of wheel weights .and old hard lead shot, I decided that i would try casting some bullets for my 45-70 Handy.I wanted a .459 bullet mold but all of them were pretty expensive , except for the Lee hollow base mold. I like to load my 45-70 up around 1650 fps so the hollow base realy wasn't what I wanted.I bought it anyway, and with my handy little dremel tool ground off the base plug so it cast a nice flat base bullet. On my scale ,with the alloy I used it weighs just 400 grns.