Remington 798

[tanoose]

New for 2007 this mauser 98 comes in Stainless. the 375 H&H has iron sights with a 24" barrel . It comes in a laminated stock. I thought this might be a great rifle for Alaska and even better Houge has  a mauser 98 synthetic stock with full aluminum block. What do you guys think. I mean with the winchester classic stainless now gone wher can one get a stainless mauser 98 that wont break your wallet?

[kyelkhunter3006]

Honestly, if it shoots with any degree of accuracy, I don't see how you can beat it in a factory gun, especially if you don't like the Ruger 77.  You'd probably want to have the trigger and the action worked over a bit to make them smoother.  Also, you'd have to do some serious test feeding to make sure that the long cartridge will chamber without any issues---wouldn't want to jam it up while in range of a bada$$ bruin.

[tanoose]

I think the Ruger 77 is a great rifle the problem is i am looking for a stainless synthetic model and theres doesn't come in 375 H&H even the new 375 ruger doesn't come in stainless , i guess there holding that for 2008  The stainless 77 hawkeye only goes up to 338 win mag  just like the MKII.

[kyelkhunter3006]

What the retail on the 798 going to be?  If it's pretty high, you might be able to get a used Ruger 77 magnum and have it rebarreled to .375 H&H.  You'd have to get the long magnum magazine box, open the mag well in the stock a bit, and get the ejector faced off for the longer cartridge.  It can be done easily, there was actually a write-up in RIFLE magazine by editor Dave Scovill who did exactly what I'm talking about.  He used the walnut stock, got the bottom metal, had the work done, rebarreled with a 24" Shilen, and ended up with a 7lb .375H&H.  I don't think that I'd want to shoot it, but it would be nice to pack around. I know for sure that it would probably be a better all around rifle than the 798 would.

[tanoose]

The MSRP is the same as the blued model at $970.00 and depending on where you shop they were selling from $700-$850. I was reading an article in rifle shooter where the same rifle in 30/06 was getting 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards with factory remington ammunition.

[kyelkhunter3006]

I think that they are a good looking gun myself, but I'm partial to laminated stocks.  I think that a good laminate is almost better looking than walnut, until you get into the very high grades.  I've read some critical reviews of the stock of all things, and I'm thinking, hey guys, this stock is identical to the 700 ADL wood stock in profile, and no one ever thought it was a loser on the 700.  Honestly, for the work that a .375 would do, 2"-3" groups would be more than good enough.  MOA groups with a big bore rifle are nice to brag about, but they don't kill any better, when you have a vital area that big to aim at.  How many times do people take 300 yd shots with a .375 anyway?  If you can get 1.5" with a factory gun like this, I'd call it damn good and proceed to slay something with it.   

[tanoose]

Your right about the stock according to remington the stock is of the ADL design. I think for the price i will grab one up as soon as they are available but i will put on the Hogue over molded synthetic stock with the full length bedding block.

[kyelkhunter3006]

You might want to check with Hogue and make sure that the stock will fit that barreled action.  Yes, its a 98 Mauser variant, but I know that Bell & Carlson has a different stock for the Interarms Mark X compared to a regular 98 action.  I'm sure it's because of the side safety and the bottom metal on the Mark X, which is the same as the 798.

[tanoose]

I checked with both hogue and remington and they said the overmolded stock would fit , and that if any fitting had to bne done it would be in the barrel channel forward the recoil lug for proper floating.

[deltecs]

What the retail on the 798 going to be?  If it's pretty high, you might be able to get a used Ruger 77 magnum and have it rebarreled to .375 H&H.  You'd have to get the long magnum magazine box, open the mag well in the stock a bit, and get the ejector faced off for the longer cartridge.  It can be done easily, there was actually a write-up in RIFLE magazine by editor Dave Scovill who did exactly what I'm talking about.  He used the walnut stock, got the bottom metal, had the work done, rebarreled with a 24" Shilen, and ended up with a 7lb .375H&H.  I don't think that I'd want to shoot it, but it would be nice to pack around. I know for sure that it would probably be a better all around rifle than the 798 would.

I'm a bit ignorant, I guess.  I did not know that the Ruger Mark 1 action was long enough to chamber 2.850" cartridges like the .375 H & H without removing some action metal.  Your comment about the article by Dave Scovill in Rifle Mag interests me.  Do you by chance know the year and month?
Greg

Detente: An armed citizenry versus a liberal society

[kyelkhunter3006]

My bad, I guess that I should have pointed that it was a MKII action.  It was issue 211, Jan. 2004.

[wahunterinrok]

you know the hawkeye Alaskan in 375 ruger, is stainless, it just has a coating over it to make it even more corrosion resistant...

[wvcopp]

I purchased a Remington 798 in .308 two weeks ago. This is a commercial '98 Mauser made in Serbia. It has a laminate stock that is made for Remington. The bluing on the rifle is very good. It also has a free floated barrel. The stock has a comfortable cheek piece, and is fit very well. I looked at the 798 display model, as well as the 798 I purchased, and both have an excellent metal to wood fit. The rifle weighs in at 7 lb 10 oz, compared to the advertised weight of 7 lb. The safety has two positions, and some people might want to convert to a three position. Purchase price was $550 for the standard non-magnum model. Did put one coat of Tru-Oil on the stock.

I took this gun to an indoor range last weekend since it was snowing here in Dallas. Three shot groups were measuring 0.5-0.75" at 50 yards. This rifle should be able to shoot 1-1.5" groups at 100 yards out of the box. Recoil was milder than expected, and I believe the stock does a good job regarding perceived recoil. I know people have said this is a Remington ADL stock, but did Remington produce this stock with laminate and cheek piece?

There are two slight problems with this rifle. The trigger pull is about 3.75 lb, but has excessive creep. The gunsmith I talked to said the trigger could be worked on to virtually eliminate the creep (over travel) and reduce the trigger pull to no more than 3 lb. He said that this could be done for $65, and that trigger replacement would not be needed. I haven't had the trigger worked on yet, so I can't verify if this is true. I'll be going to the gun range this weekend and will have the trigger work done soon. The other problem is a relatively minor one, especially with the .308: this gun has a thick recoil pad, but the material is pretty hard. I intend to replace it with a better recoil pad.

I haven't seen the new stainless models yet. In my opinion, these new '98 Mauser barreled actions show superior quality to the Remington 700 at this price point. The larger caliber Mauser '98 actions should be a good choice for bigger and potentially dangerous game.

[kyelkhunter3006]

"I know people have said this is a Remington ADL stock, but did Remington produce this stock with laminate and cheek piece? "

There were special order models for various retailers that featured a a 700 with a laminated ADL stock--Wal-Mart was one of them.