Gdbyrd, you are right. There are always people that want to push there guns to the max. I don't, I like to find the most accurate. Speed without accuracy is not a good combination.
My feeling on it all is, if you want to push your gun to the next level, you should of bought a bigger gun.

bjgunner, a few reloading manuals will have load data for the contender listed, you will see that the contender stays in the trapdoor level. Also, I own a Encore 45-70 and would not shoot a Ruger #1 level in it. The high side of the marlin loads are the low side of the Ruger #1 loads anyway's. Hope this helps.