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Offline dadsturn

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Question on contender
« on: February 05, 2007, 07:11:04 AM »
The contender I have for hunting now has a firing pin safety in the hammer. My other t/c doesnt.
Was this an aftermarket fix or was this installed from the factory?

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2007, 07:31:37 AM »
as I understand it . the early models had a slide in the hammmer to change it from rimfire to centerfire. the newer models had a small twist knob that would change the rimfire to centerfire. the twist type had a center position that was a safey.

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2007, 07:45:18 AM »
This is not the firing pin selector, it is behind the hammer. This is a horizontal square button in the hammer that moves left for safety and right for
firing. It is a firing pin block that keeps the hammer from contacting the firing pin.

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2007, 07:49:56 AM »
That sounds like the hammer my first Contender had, prior to having it up-dated.  It was a very early model.
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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 11:12:58 AM »
On the earliest Contenders, the firing pin selector was in the face (front) of the hammer.  It was a slot head screw type of thing that had the metal on one side of the slot machined lower than the other.  The high side struck the firing pin.  It was positioned so that the slot was right at the juncture of the two firing pins.  Steel ball detents were used to hold it in the proper position, and you changed it by cocking the hammer and using a screwdriver to turn it 180 degrees.  The very earliest ones were held in place by a tiny lock ring on the back of the hammer.  It would occasionally slip off and the whole innards would go flying - very interesting.  The balls were about the size of #8 shot, and I once used some such shot in an emergency while I waited for parts.  Then they threaded the selector and used a screw from the back to hold it in.  I never had one of those fail.  Eventually, maybe because so many people started to use scopes, they changed to the slide selector.  Probably because a lot of people didn't understand the internal safety, they incoporated a middle position "safety" in which a little pin protruded from the front of the hammer as a safety, and that's what you are describing before the advent of the "twist" type of selector, which also has a middle "safety" position.  So, there have been (at least) four types of hammers and firing pin selectors.

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2007, 02:27:15 AM »
Let me try this again. This is not the firing pin selector. That is the screw behind and below the hammer. Looking at the hammer from the rear,
there is a square button in through the SIDE of the hammer. In the left position there is a "S" , and it pushes a pin out the firing pin
face on the hammer that doesnt allow the hammer to make contact with the firing pin. When you push it to the right, the "S" disappears,
and the pin is retracted into the hammer face, allowing the hammer face to contact the firing pin. Does this explaination help better?
The main reason I'm curious is that it works so well, and I would like to get one for my sons t/c also. But I cant find a damn thing on this.

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2007, 03:46:20 AM »
Call TC and order a new style hammer and I will trade you a old style for the new.
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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2007, 06:04:28 AM »
Dadsturn, I stand corrected; the slide was not a firing pin selector, but a safety - sorry.  I suspect T/C did it because the lack of an apparent safety, although there is an internal hammer block, made some people nervous (and maybe the T/C lawyers, too).

Again, sorry.

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 05:27:24 AM »
Dadsturn,

You have an early style hammer, the guy I talked to at TC said there were several variations of this hammer. My internals fell out and I lost the detente balls so I sent my hammer in for repair. I told them specifically that I wanted the same style hammer, they sent me a used one to replace it. No more new ones laying around. BTW the screw below the hammer spur is NOT the selector screw, that is the lock screw that holds the selector assembly in. The selector is switched from the front of the hammer with a flat blade screw driver. The screw in the back will work but if it comes loose you may find yourself on the phone with TC begging for parts!
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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2007, 07:27:20 AM »
Thanks, thats what I was looking for. So you cant find them anymore huh? It seems to work just fine. I wonder why they didnt
keep that one. Oh well.

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Re: Question on contender
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 02:38:55 PM »
 I looked up my serial number and mine is a 1979 model. I have the same slide safety as talked about above. I have one problem with it, my gun will fire in safe mode, discovered this by accident. I have always been curious if TC could update mine with something more reliable, I wonder if that is possible?