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Relearning the obvious
« on: January 24, 2007, 02:27:55 PM »
Decided that if I was going to go play Saturday I'd best be casting up some cannon ball..... so, fired up the zinc pot.  Earlier this week I had occasion to go out to my local propane suppliers office.  While I was there we got to talking about casting cannon ball and such, asked what I was using for a burner.  Seems as though there are 3 distinct propane regulators.... the normal Bar-b-que variety that runs at approx 11 WC or 6 ounces pressure.... the high pressure regulator that runs at approx 12 PSI.... and, can you believe it, an adjustable version that will operate at from 0 to 20 PSI !!!  $14.00 later I had the adjustable version.  Lesson number one.... the higher the propane line pressure (within reason) the more heat a ring shaped cast iron burner puts out.  Sure does make melting zinc a lot easier.

I cast a 2 1/4" ball for my half scale Napoleon.  Quite often the two mold halves just won't quite close... they are machined where one actually fits inside of an outer ring on the other.  I hold the halves together with one of those Vise Grip C-Clamps.  Lesson number two... if the 2 halves of the mold are pretty well aligned but just not quite seated, a couple gentle taps with a brass hammer will usually seat them.

Once the ball has been cast, the sprue still has to be cut off.  Lesson number three.... and this one should have been really obvious... a new hacksaw blade will work MUCH BETTER than the one I have been using for the past 2 years.  Gee, who would have thought.
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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2007, 02:29:37 AM »
Kind of you to post these tips - I'm going to look for the adjustable regulator!!!
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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 03:27:37 AM »
You can get regulators and burners from these two companies.

I have dealt with both of them several times and had no bad experiences.


http://www.tejassmokers.com/gasregulators.htm

http://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/propane_regulator.htm

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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2007, 03:30:56 AM »
Also available from The Cajun Shoppe.

http://www.cajunshoppe.com/pageidx.htm

If your local propane dealer stocks them though, that would probably be the least expensive way to go.
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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2007, 04:39:09 AM »
If you think you may need to use propane to run a forge furnace or melting furnace, get an adjustable regulator 0-30 pounds with a 0-30 pounds guage and a 10 foot hose. The guage makes it easier to light and control a melting furnace burner. I light the burner at around 3 pounds and usually run 15 pounds of pressure melting brass/bronze and 10 pounds or less for aluminum with a 3/4 inch burner.

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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2007, 05:51:52 AM »
http://www.100megsfree3.com/kragaxe/Furnaces.html

These are older forges and furnaces. I still use one of them, but I need to update the description since the operating parameters have changed a bit. I've built about a dozen now and I've got much better at building them. I prefer a Goss 0-40 psi regulator with a gauge, but they run ~$50.

My current knifemaking forge is pretty efficient. I melted part of a leaf spring in it a while back, so it gets plenty hot. Made a nice mix of steel and dolomite.  ;D It uses a 3/4" burner tube, 0.030" MIG tip as a gas jet and generally runs at 4 psi for general forge work, 10 for forge welding.

The big crucible furnace uses a blower and the single burner. It easily melts pure iron. Makes nice glass out of the cat litter in the bottom of the furnace as well. For cast iron and steel I run ~17psi through a .030" jet with a two speed hair dryer as a blower. For aluminum, even at 0 gauge pressure the furnace will quickly overheat the melt if it's been operating long enough to be at steady state. It's at ~2200* then. At 4-5 psi it's around 2400, 15-17 psi...~3000. That's pretty much the max regardless how much more air/fuel I pump in. Good insulation and properly tuning a burner iare the keys.

I'll have a "virtual shop tour" published in the Texas Knifemaker and Collector newsletter in Feb. I'll link it here. My shop is destined to become a superfund site! Hah. Actually, I just want to see the look on some archaeologist's face when the excavate my property and find medieval armour, cannons barrels, knives, swords....and power tools and chemical vats. :)
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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 07:01:56 AM »
"cajunshoppe" that Evil Dog mentioned I forgot about, but is also on my "no bad experiences" shopping list.

btw, in case you ask why, i am building a really big BBQ setup in my workshop this winter.... Your all invited to the first party when it gets warm.

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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 07:45:05 AM »
Sweet BBQ at Rickk's house!! B.Y.O.C (Bring your own cannon) ;D...

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Re: Relearning the obvious
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 12:57:19 PM »
There is always a coupla kegs in the kegerator, but, yes, it is BYOC... I have about a 90 visable yard mortar range.  Cannons are more like 60 yards due to the uphill slope of the backstop. The one neighbor that I have is always invited, so blanks right in the yard are fine. ;D