Author Topic: The one fact that proves that we didn't descent from monkeys? (Read 4327 times)

S.B. · « **on:** January 21, 2007, 02:31:52 AM »

Science has never found the "Missing Link". So, I don't know where the Yeti, Skunk Ape, or Abomidable Snow Man fit in? But, he's definately (in my opinion) not a monkey. Your thoughts are welcome and appreciated.

HL · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:58:33 AM »

If such a thing exists, the only way to end the debate is to harvest one and have it examined by biologists. That is, if it exists outside our imaginations. It's just hard for me to believe, with all the hunters in the field every year, that no one has actually taken a photo that is clear, and undisputable or shot one. Dehydration and lack of normal eating to the point of keytosis, can cause the brain to play tricks, sometimes to the point it seems all too real.

If by chance these do exist and I run across one while hunting,,,,,lets just say, there will be an autopsy to find out what made it tick.

WmRoy · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2007, 12:31:31 PM »

No doubt these beasts are 'apes' and not 'monkeys' at all....... that is if they exist......

No doubt (if they exist) a distant relative of the greatest ape of all..... humans

If you look through a good reference on human evolution you'll see many species that would gualify as a 'missing link'. It's highly unlikely that we will ever find fossil evidence of every species that ever existed......... so there will always be some gaps in the fossil evidence.

God Bless!

S.B. · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2007, 03:18:16 PM »

Quote from: WmRoy on February 01, 2007, 12:31:31 PM

No doubt these beasts are 'apes' and not 'monkeys' at all....... that is if they exist......

No doubt (if they exist) a distant relative of the greatest ape of all..... humans

If you look through a good reference on human evolution you'll see many species that would gualify as a 'missing link'. It's highly unlikely that we will ever find fossil evidence of every species that ever existed......... so there will always be some gaps in the fossil evidence.

God Bless!

I disagree with this, I agree with the Bible: Man is made in God's image.

Ratltrap · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2007, 03:26:16 PM »

I always considered it ascent rather than descent, but I've been wrong before. $:-\$

WmRoy · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2007, 05:13:00 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on February 01, 2007, 03:18:16 PM

Quote from: WmRoy on February 01, 2007, 12:31:31 PM
No doubt these beasts are 'apes' and not 'monkeys' at all....... that is if they exist......

No doubt (if they exist) a distant relative of the greatest ape of all..... humans

If you look through a good reference on human evolution you'll see many species that would gualify as a 'missing link'. It's highly unlikely that we will ever find fossil evidence of every species that ever existed......... so there will always be some gaps in the fossil evidence.

God Bless!

I disagree with this, I agree with the Bible: Man is made in God's image.

I agree with the Bible too............ evolution is God's favorite tool...........

While we may disagree on whether the Bible is to be taken literally or not.......... I'm sure we agree that Christ is Lord!

God Bless!

HL · « **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2007, 02:05:43 AM »

I agree with all the last posts, but the only thing I don't agree with is that humans evolved from monkeys/apes, or what ever. Man has always been man. To what extent, we really don't know, but we have always been separated from the sub species.

Just my .02

powderman · « **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:09:22 PM »

Quote from: HL on February 02, 2007, 02:05:43 AM

I agree with all the last posts, but the only thing I don't agree with is that humans evolved from monkeys/apes, or what ever. Man has always been man. To what extent, we really don't know, but we have always been separated from the sub species.

Just my .02

Agreed Sir. POWDERMAN.

WmRoy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2007, 06:01:47 PM »

No doubt seperate on a spiritual sense but when you get down to dna...... we are all just apes .....

Spiritual distinct, physically just another carbon unit.....

S.B. · « **Reply #9 on:** February 04, 2007, 07:17:38 AM »

WmRoy, If you look through a good reference on human evolution you'll see many species that would gualify as a 'missing link'.

How can you ask Christians to look in a book on Evolution?

Castaway · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2007, 02:27:01 AM »

Somewhere in the great Northwest there's a good ol' boy named Bubba who drives a 4x4 with a dog box in the bed, a rifle rack in the rear window and CB antenna on the bumper. May even have a Conferderate flag flying somewhere. If there was such a thing as Bigfoot, he'd be stuffed and mounted over Bubba's fireplace.

BillP · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2007, 12:42:12 PM »

That's what I had planned but the wife said, "Bubba, you juss get that stinkey monkey rite out my house".
Bubba

billy_56081 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2007, 12:50:16 PM »

Now take a look at the world and everything in it. Did this all come from just the right ingredients dumped together randomly ? Or is there some intelligence behind our design? Come on if you beleave this was just n accident I'll sell ya the Brooklyn Bridge.

If you wanna have a monkey as an ancestor more power to ya. But I aint decended from no ape.

Beers · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2007, 12:55:25 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on February 04, 2007, 07:17:38 AM

How can you ask Christians to look in a book on Evolution?

Believe it or not, there are many good Christians that don't find the theory of evolution contradictory to thier faith. Of course, I'm sure they're not real Christians as far as you're concerned....

S.B. · « **Reply #14 on:** March 09, 2007, 07:15:56 AM »

Sounds like your talking the old apples and oranges faith?

Micahn · « **Reply #15 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:40:24 AM »

I been trying to stay out of this as I do not like talking religion online or even in person lol. But I have to ask, Just what type of proof of evolution would it take for people to believe in it ? To most people that proof is plain as day and night but to others it seems no matter what type of proof they have if it goes against their religion they just will not believe it.

S.B. · « **Reply #16 on:** March 09, 2007, 10:21:15 AM »

Finding an actual missing link, not some fantacy about someone's cousin in the next state seeing an animal at midnight.

Castaway · « **Reply #17 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:11:53 PM »

S.B.,

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Beers · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2007, 02:44:06 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on March 09, 2007, 10:21:15 AM

an actual missing link, not some fantacy about someone's cousin in the next state seeing an animal at midnight.

I suppose you've not heard of Homo habilis, Homo rudolfensis, Homo ergaster, Homo erectus, Homo floresiensis, Homo heidelbergensism, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo rhodesiensis, Homo cepranensis or Homo georgicus ? Or the various Australopithecines, Paranthropicines and Ardipithecines?

There isn't really much left in the way of "missing links" anymore.. The evolution of mankind is pretty thouroughly mapped out and understood at this point. There's still more to learn... but one can logicaly infer how we came about over the eons, if one is not too inhibited and mentally paralyzed by dogmatic superstition..... $:-\$

How about a rational argument? Not some fantasy about evolution being refuted by the fact that noone has ever verified the existence of bigfoot.

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2007, 09:17:52 AM »

I didn't think we were descendants of "monkeys" in the first place?

From what I understand they (monkeys) took a left turn off of the "family tree" a couple years back and humans came from a different direction?

WmRoy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2007, 04:21:26 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on February 04, 2007, 07:17:38 AM

WmRoy,
How can you ask Christians to look in a book on Evolution?

You're talking to a Christian who has a copy of the "Encyclopedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory" on his desk.

Teufelwald · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2007, 11:03:18 AM »

Bigfoots may be the offspring of the fallen angels....."The Nephilim"?

45454 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2007, 12:23:57 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on January 21, 2007, 02:31:52 AM

Science has never found the "Missing Link". So, I don't know where the Yeti, Skunk Ape, or Abomidable Snow Man fit in? But, he's definately (in my opinion) not a monkey. Your thoughts are welcome and appreciated.

Hello S.B.
Well, after all these years, I think these propeller heads have been chasing down something that does not exist.
That "missing link" as far as I'm concerned, is lost, and never did exist to begin with.
They'll never prove it.
All of those "Lucy's" that were found in Africa, were apes/monkeys to begin with. Our tax money at work.
Some years ago, a tooth was found.All the hoopla, was, it was "human". Yes, it made the news big time.
I had some reservations about it.It turned out to be a hog tooth ! I'll bet some faces turned red on this one !

S.B. · « **Reply #23 on:** April 05, 2007, 01:46:04 PM »

One never hears of the follow up report's, dis spelling these myths.

45454 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 05, 2007, 02:21:27 PM »

Hi S.B. !

I hear ya !
I think I know:my dad used to call me a "little monkey".That was many years ago.

Dee · « **Reply #25 on:** April 09, 2007, 02:13:40 AM »

Over the last 57 years I have ran across some people that represented a good argument for evolution, not quite being finished with them in particular. However, most were a good argument for abortion also.
God however, seemed pretty positive on how He went about things, and made no mention of a boiling Calderon of chemicals, or a slime pit that would eventually become a man, as I recall.
I heard a story once of a second grader studying whales in class. She excitedly raised her hand and informed the teacher, that Jonah had been swallowed by a whale. The teacher informed the little girl that it would be impossible for a whale to swallow a man, and the man live. The little girl unshaken, replied; The Bible says it happened, and the teacher advised the little girl, that the Bible was wrong. Still unshaken, the little girl said; When I get to Heaven, I'll just ask Jonah. The teacher replied; What if Jonah isn't in Heaven? The little girl then replied; Then you ask him.
I grew up with a good Christian mother, who drug me to church constantly until I got too big to drag. The one thing I remember most for my 40 some odd years of being unsaved, was the conflict that the Bible and Evolution presented, when trying to reason them together. One when spiritually lead, become increasingly clear, while the other remains a question, and nothing more. JMO

S.B. · « **Reply #26 on:** April 09, 2007, 02:22:29 AM »

Very well put, Dee.

Sourdough · « **Reply #27 on:** May 15, 2007, 04:06:52 PM »

This is a battle that can't be won. The believers refuse to accept any of the proven facts for it degrades their religion. The non-believers think that the believers are are stuck in the Dark Ages. So just agree to disagree and go on.

HL · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2007, 01:57:27 AM »

Agree Sourdough,

The way I look at it is if non believers are correct,.....They're OK and I'm OK.

If I'm correct, I'm still OK and good to go.,,,,,but........................

I just don't get into those arguments.

HL

tomzuki · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2007, 06:09:45 AM »

How come Bigfoot is only seen in areas that dope smokers use to grow crops?? Pacific N.W., the swamps of Florida, or the "Wilds of the Midwest??

Then again Crypto-Zoologists have found rumored species and examples of wildlife to be true, (The Narwhal of the Arctic was once thought to be not real, when stories of it were told by the native people.)

And one last question?? Why do Chimpanzees share 98.5+% of the DNA combination with Humans?? Didn't the Creator make DNA in each of the cells in a human being?? How do Creationists reconcile this??