223 american ...

[lucky guy]

I just got this last week, what a sweet rifle.   I've been trying some different factory loads til I get some loaded up.   One interesting thing, the rounds I've fired and reloaded in the H&R won't chamber, the bolt won't close.  I've read that the H&R has a longer throat, seems like it from these H&R rounds.

Anyway I tried the wwb 45's and they shot well at a hundred.   Yesterday I tried the bh's 55 gr. and they were shooting at 1.5 at a 190 yds!  (I was out in the desert, 190 was just a convenient spot to put the target).  Almost perfect conditions, but still, this gun only has maybe 50 rounds through it! 

I'm just wondering what factory loads shoot well for anybody else. 

Thanks.

[7x57mm]

Lucky Guy: I'm sorry no one responded sooner. I have not tried factory loads, just handloads. My brother shoots nothing but factory loads in his .221 fireball and that little rifle is less than an inch at 100 yards (and my little brother just does not clean barrels either). The CZs are just shooting machines. Every great once in a while you hear of someone who got one not up to his, or her expectations, but that is the vast exception not even close to the rule. Have fun with your .223 Remington in the American. Tom P

[lucky guy]

Hi Tom, 

They are terrific aren't they.  It's a hard call whether you save enough by reloading to make it worthwhile, I just enjoy doing it.   I've been shooting the wwb and a couple of different bh loads.  I found some of the bh's 55 fmj's on sale so that's what I've been shooting to have some casings to work with. 

I capped and primed a hundred last night, and I'm going to start working up a load for the barnes 50 gr hp's.  The Barnes manual has a good article on an organized way to go at it, I'm going to try that approach.  I have 335, 748, 4895 and some benchrest that I'm going to start with.  I'll keep you posted if you're interested.  What loads do you find work well for you?

Best regards,

Glenn   

[Simple Man]

Hello Lucky,

Your going to love that rifle! Mine shoots the Winchester white box 50 grain the best, I can get 1" groups out of it at 100 yards.  I'm looking at picking up the 527 in 22 hornet next. The CZ's are just awesome rifles!

[7x57mm]

Lucky Guy: yes, please keep me updated on your progress. With my rifle, it absolutely loves the cheap highly explosive bullets. The Hornady SX 50 grainer seated to an overall length of 2.230 inch over 28 grains of Win 748 gives tiny, tiny groups in my rifle shooting off sandbags. When I say tiny, I have shot some groups which go right at .25 inch for three shots. Now, for some reason, if I try boattail bullets I cannot buy a decent group with this particular rifle, but put some flatbases in there and look out, it is a shooter. I have tried loading full-house loads with several powders in this rifle and for some reason, if I drop the load just by a tad, the groups tighten up considerably. The photo shows my CZ 527. The rifle is a Lux model that I put in an aftermarket CZ American stock. On top sits a Bushnell 3200 Elite in 7x21x40. Like CZ Man said, you're going to have a ball with your rifle. The longest shot I ever made with my CZ was a measured 468 yard shot at a p-dog. It was witnessed and I only made the one shot. I didn't want to have to explain a missed shot the second time around. Tom P

[lucky guy]

Lucky Guy: yes, please keep me updated on your progress. With my rifle, it absolutely loves the cheap highly explosive bullets. The Hornady SX 50 grainer seated to an overall length of 2.230 inch over 28 grains of Win 748 gives tiny, tiny groups in my rifle shooting off sandbags. When I say tiny, I have shot some groups which go right at .25 inch for three shots. Now, for some reason, if I try boattail bullets I cannot buy a decent group with this particular rifle, but put some flatbases in there and look out, it is a shooter. I have tried loading full-house loads with several powders in this rifle and for some reason, if I drop the load just by a tad, the groups tighten up considerably. The photo shows my CZ 527. The rifle is a Lux model that I put in an aftermarket CZ American stock. On top sits a Bushnell 3200 Elite in 7x21x40. Like CZ Man said, you're going to have a ball with your rifle. The longest shot I ever made with my CZ was a measured 468 yard shot at a p-dog. It was witnessed and I only made the one shot. I didn't want to have to explain a missed shot the second time around. Tom P

Tom,

That's a beautiful stock and set up.  Do you mind me asking where you got the stock?  I'm using a 6x18 bushnell on mine til I decide what I want to finally end up with on it. 

Thanks for the info on the load.  I'll try that one and let you know if I come across anything else worth reporting. 

468 yds!!!  I am not worthy!  We were on the way to the chukar slopes a couple of weekends ago and I missed a coyote at about 250 - shot just over it.  I'm still getting used to how flat this thing shoots. 

CZMAN,

I've shot the wwb 45's and they shoot well.  I haven't seen the 50's, I'll have to look for them and try em. 
 

Thanks,

Glenn

[7x57mm]

Lucky Guy: Believe me, that 468-yard shot on that p-dog was a fluke. I was shooting in Bonita Canyon about 26 miles from Grants, New Mexico, when I made the shot. A buddy, Tom George, was with me at the time. I only made one of those shots that day. The p-dog was at the bottom of a fence post way out there. I cranked the power setting up, checked my balistics card, watched until all windswirls stopped, put the trigger on the set function and touched the trigger. The kill wasn't as spectacular as are the ones say out to 200 yards or so. It just fell off its mound dead. I didn;t try another shot at that distance because I knew that luck was with me on the first shot. Besides, to this time Tom talks about that shot to his friends. As far as the stock, it is an aftermarket stock I bought from CZ-USA. The company sells them. It was the fancy grade of American Walnut. I think it was $314, or thereabouts. It is a drop-in, but since my rifle originally was a Lux model, I had to do some minor inletting. If it hadn't been for that, it would have been a full drop-in stock. If you call CZ-USA at its 1-800 telephone number you can get information about them. There might be info on the company's website under accessories. Tom P

[lucky guy]

Thanks Tom.

I shot a clay bird out of the air one day with my cz 75 9mm.  Guy wanted to see it again.  I said I showed him how once already, and  after he learns that I'd show him how to shoot the pieces before they hit the ground!     I'm in trouble if he pulls it off.


Glenn