Mossberg ATR short action

[animal]

Does anyone know if the .308 ATR is a short action?  :-\I see the catalog lists the 308 as the same length as the 06.

[jvs]

I suggest that you find someone in your area who has knowledge of guns to act as your Mentor. 

It is probably better to have someone show you the difference in actions, and to give you hands on experience before you buy anything.

[animal]

jvs, thanks for the response that was totally not helpful. The Mossberg catalog lists the 30-06 and .270 as 3/4 " longer than the .308 & .243 so I assume the .308 is a true short action in that rifle.

 

[jvs]

Why don't you tell me what the terms "Short Action" and "Long Action" mean to you.  In your first post you wondered why the .308 was the same length as the .30-06.

You are correct in assuming that the .308 is a Short Action, but so is the .243.

And the .270 and .30-06 are Long Actions.

[animal]

Right JVS,
Some rifle makers simply use 30-06 length actions ( long action). The bolt is the same length for 30-06, 270, 308 etc.. If I get a 308 I'd want a short action rifle. Thanks for your input. The walmart catalog had the 30-06, 270, 308 and 243 as the same length but the Mossberg catalog has the 243 and 308 listed as 3/4 inch shorter.
Anyway, instead I'm getting a custom 308 with Mauser action and laminated stock with a scope for 5 bills.

[Slamfire]

Although the Mauser is shorter than it's contemporaies, it isn't a "short action". That term generally means an action length of 2.8". Mauser's sort action, a non military rifle, is shorter than that. 

[jvs]

A short action Bolt should be shorter than a long action bolt, instead of using the size and configuration of the receiver to make up for the extra length of bolt.  If the ATR has a shorter bolt for their short action rifles, then they are doing it right.

In todays world of making everything as inexpensive as possible, I suppose quite a few manufacturers are making only one length bolt, and give you extra metal in the receiver to restrict travel for their lower end rifles.   Both of which would add weight to the middle of the rifle.

[EVOC ONE]

The bolt on my .308 ATR is a bit shorter than the one on my .30-06 ATR by about the length of the bolt head.  The .308 ATR's bolt is also approximately the same length as the one on my 1970's M-berg 800A .308.

I can take specific measurments if needed.

Animal I forwarded a PM.

Joe.

[animal]

Thanks for setteling the question for me Evoc One. The Mossberg looks to be a heck of a deal and decent shooter.

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[EVOC ONE]

Animal:

Your welcome.  Very glad to have helped. 

Joe

[animal]

After seeing your pics of the Mossbergs I was inspired to learn how to post pics. Thanks again

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[EVOC ONE]

Congratulations!  What great luck you have in bagging deer ... both the two and four legged versions. 

If you decide to get the ATR, keep us posted on how you like it and any results. 

Joe

[animal]

Thanks for the help and compliment Evoc One. Now I'm gonna have to order the .308 ATR just to see what she'l do.

                                                                                                                        Later,   Pat