glass bed for remington 700 7mag

[burntmuch]

HELLO IM KNEW HERE. LOOKING FOR SOME INFO ON GLASS BEDDING MY WOOD STOCK ONMY REMINGTON 700 7REM MAG. IS TH FRONT OF THE BARREL SUPOSSED TO TOUCH THE STOCK. IF HEARD A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.

[gdolby]

burntmuch, I have a 7mm but it is freefloated. I also have a .243 that is fully glass bedded from lug to tip. far as doing it I have no idea but if you will go to the gunsmithing forum I am sure someone there could give you some pointers....good shooting.....Bill

[safetysheriff]

burnt'

please shut off the capital letters......it means you are shouting in 'web protocol'.   nothing personal by that.

i would not do anything to change the pressure bedding of your 7mm' unless you've found the rifle already to be inaccurate And Nothing Else helps.   Remington uses the pressure bedding on a number of its Model 700 variants because it often works so well with light-weight and sporter-weight barrels.   i'd leave it alone if you haven't shot it yet.   it may be a tack-driving hammer

if you haven't shot it yet please try to do so and then let us know your results.

regards,

ss'   

[Don Fischer]

The question we haven't asked is why do you want to bed it? Your post say's you've never done one befor. It's really quit easy but you really need to mind the details. If ya don't, you could end up with your rifle in the freezer trying to get the barrel/action out of the stock. Or you could glue your trigger shut. Very easy but pay attention!

So, why are you wanting to do it?

[burntmuch]

ive had the rifle for ten years. the gun shoots great, the guns 45 yrs old . the gun averages 1- 2 inch groups with descent ammo.  to be honest, this summer i  sanded the bed down, so the barrel dosnt touch the stock until about two inches from lug. now it feels loose. i was hoping glassing the bed would tighten it up. i havent shot it yet since i sanded the stock. but like i said it seems loose. just trying to fix a mistake.  Good news is i had to buy a nef 308 handi rifle  for this hunting season thanks for the replys

[Don Fischer]

You say it feels loose. In the action? The barrel sounds like it floated. Solid to about 2" of the recoil lug. That's about what I do but, where the barrel does make contact, is the contact point square across the barrel channel? Needs to be! Thats important. If it's feeling loose in the action, could be that cleaning solvent over the years has soften the wood around the bedding points. In that case, you'd need to take out the soft wood and re-bed, I like micro bed but others probally work as well. At the same time, I'd do the recoil lug. Cut away behind it and refill. Be sure and put several layers of tape on both sides the front and the bottom of the recoil lug. You don't want the recoil lug mortise to grab the lug, bearing on the back only. Make sure everything that the bedding compound MIGHT touch has a good coat of release agent and tape all around the trigger housing or take it off the action. Use a shim to hold up the front of the barrel and keep it from falling and lifting the rear tang. Easiest way is to put some clay, just a bit, in at the forend and re-install the barrelled action to pull the front of the barrel down into the clay. Play dough works well. Plug the rear tang screw hole with clay befor putting on the release agent. You can cut out the bedding in the screw hole after it set's up. Put some clay in the front screw hole and release agent on the front screw. When you drop in the action and tighten it down, the screw will drive the clay plug into the action. Keep the bedding compound back away from the front screw hole, It'll flow there by itself. Just snug the front screw till some bedding comes out around the action, don't tork it down till it's all done. Bedding should also squeeze out around the rear tang. Let the flowed out bedding set up, but not harden, then cut off the flowed out bedding with a sharpened hardwood stick. After several hours, back out the front screw about 1/2 turn then retighten the 1/2 turn. That will make sure you have not glued it in.

[burntmuch]

W I say loose, I mean when the reciever  is secured to the stock, it seems like if you hold barrel you can move th front of forend. Could that be the wood flexing just a little bit? I ve got a whole lot of info to work with now. im gonna go to the range this weekend & see how it does. Thanks   Dont worry Im not gonna screw this gun up. If I find myself in over my head I ll take it to the pros. thanks again.   

[safetysheriff]

the fore end will have some flex in it......even if it is left in as-new condition where it had provided a pressure point to the barrel.    you can see this on Rem' Model 700 ADL's and others where the rifles shoot great when pressure bedded ...... but the stock will still flex.

i have a suggestion taken from a couple recent posts:   use some of that white-colored insulating tape that is maybe 3/16" wide by maybe 1/8" thick that you can use around a doorway, for example.   put it on the stock where the pressure bedding had been just behind the tip of the forearm.   then re-install the barrel'd action and see how it shoots.   if it goes back to shooting well.....then you know that pressure bedding is all that is needed.   

BUT......since you haven't shot it yet.....and since some flex in the stock is normal.....you may want to see how it shoots before using the water-proof insulation trick above.   if it shoots poorly you just do the work on the rifle at the range and try it again......with the insulation in place.

take care,

ss'

[burntmuch]

What do you think about a shim at the tip of forend , like apiece of credit card. shoot 3 without shim, shoot 3 with shim.  same concept?? Or have pressure all the way back?  Thanks

[safetysheriff]

since you sanded down the stock....on what seemingly was one of the pressure-bedded variants of a Model 700 i'd just re-bed it in a pressure-bedded mode.    i'd think that a couple of those credit cards, or whatever, might not be thick enough now.   but i don't know without seeing the rifle.

the trick with the self-adhesive insulation (one side is sticky) seems worth a try.....after you try shooting the rifle as-is......first.   maybe your sanding job is ok, maybe it is not.    i would leave a pressure-bedded, sporter-weight rifle alone, myself.   but now you might as well try it before doing any more work on it.   

the self-adhesive insulation should be put onto the stock (if you do this) just behind the fore-end's tip at a right angle to the bore of the rifle.   put it in with no gaps between it and the barrel channel.   then install the barrel'd action and reasonably tighten it down,starting with the front screw first.    then trim the insulation so it comes up to a point on the barrel just below where the stock stops.   you do not put pressure on the barrel any further behind what i've suggested above.   the barrel is free of the stock from the pressure-point back to the action.   

shoot as needed!     

let us know how it works, please,

ss'   

[burntmuch]

Yeah leaving it alone sounds good. hindsights 20/20  I ll give your idea a go. if it works then just use glass bedding at tip of forend?? thanks.

[safetysheriff]

i don't think you want to use glass bedding at the forend unless you are going to sand it down with a dowel rod or some such thing after it sets up.   the idea is to have not just a tight fit at the pressure point, but to have an upward pressure on the barrel of approx' 5 to 7 pounds.    the bedding must be dry, therefore, and sanded to the barrel's contour before the barrel is installed.

take care,

ss'   

[burntmuch]

Now I get it. you not only want the pressure point touching barrel, but also putting pressure on it . the foam strip will do that & contour to the barrel. You only have to hit me over the head 7 or 8 times . THANK YOU 

[jro45]

My 7mm Rem Mag is not glass bedded the barrel is floated. That rifle is very accurate. It has a Shilen barrel 26".

[safetysheriff]

burnt'

live and learn, big guy!   this is a many-faceted hobby and no one of us knows it all.

welcome to the club, and stay in school whether here, the library, or somewhere else.   there is a lot to learn.

regards,

ss' 

[tuck2]

I have two Rem. 700 bolt action rifles, one a 25-06 Rem and the other a 221 Fireball. Both shot better groups after free floating the barrel, glass bedding the action, adjusting the trigger pull down to three Lbs and having a gunsmith lapp the bolt locking lugs.