Wow, this forum has such great info on the Handi's, glad I ran across it! I got into these rifles kind of by accident. I bought a 30'06 synthetic for my son a couple of years ago, mainly because I liked all the saftey features: single-shot, transfer bar, and exposed hammer that I could easily see whether or not it was cocked. But after I shot it a few times, I had to get one for myself and I put my Ruger bolt action in the safe. The Handi has a much better trigger and handles better in the field. Accuracy has been good enough for hunting (3" or so), but I'm looking forward to trying some of your all's tricks to improve it a bit. I do a bit of reloading, but thought I might stick with some factory loads when I try the "o" ring trick. Anybody have experience with the Winchester Super X PowerPoint 150 or 180 grain ammo in a Handi? We use the Federal Premium 180 gr Nosler partition for hunting, but it's a little pricey for target shooting. Thanks in advance for any info, really looking forward to this forum.