Thanks Pastorp i realy like this one the only thing i did was take of the 1" hard rubber recoil pad and fitted a rugular plastic butt plate , i needed it a little shorter. I got my scope the other day and mounted it the only thing is when i ordered the scope i ordered the #55010 which is the german #4 recticle i ordered this because the scope didn't come with the Post /Duplex i wanted, but i beleive i got the Post/Duplex recticle not the german # 4. If some one is familiaar with the german # 4 maybe you can take a minute and go to the Midway USA website and find the picture of the leupold 1.5x5x20 with the german#4 and tell me what recticle that is that they are showing. That is the one i wanted and got but isn't that the Post/Duplex ?