.358 Win, a great deer round

[shotgunner]

You might remember that I sent a 700 ADL to Shaw for a barrel in .358. Well, I have shot a few deer with it and I am beginning to think that is was more than a good idea. I shot a 6 point buck with it, up close, and the deer fell where it stood. The shot was across the top of the heart and out the opposite shoulder. I just cut up the shoulder and did not loose a lot of meat. I shot a doe with it at 50 yards and again it fell where it stood. Yesterday I shot a 10 point buck, running all out at 75 yards. The bullet entered the neck from above and came out under the throat. The taxidermist only has a 3/4 hole to fix. The neck was not all blood shot. I have shot a lot of deer with a .270 or even a .257 Roberts. This one puts them down fast and like Elmer used to say, you can eat right up to the bullet hole. The bullet is a 200 grain Hornady spire point with a near maximum charge of IMR 4198.
Shotgunner

P.S. how do I add a picture, I have one of the 10 point. I went to

[Whelen Man]

Shhhhh!  Lets just keep this our little secret about the 35s.  Nice buck.  I shot an eight pointer this year with a 358 Winchester and the same bullet.  I usually load that bullet in  Federal cases with WLR primers and 52 gr. of W748. For some reason the Federal cases don't show pressure signs with this load, but Winchester and Remington cases do.   This has been an accurate and effective load in my rifle.  Go get another!

[sgtt]

Too late.  Some of us already know.  An eight and ten point met their demise to a 358 in an Encore this fall.

[shotgunner]

I always wanted an 88 Winchester in .358. Maybe I should look for a .308 and have it rebarreled or rebored. Maybe another 99 Savage, I have a good .308 a .300 and a couple of .250-3000s. Have you guys tried the 250 grain bullet? Shotgunner

[Whelen Man]

I've tried the 225 and 250 gr. bullets at the range only.  My rifle definitely prefers the lighter 200 gr. bullets in either the spire point or round nose, so that is what I've stuck with.  Maybe some day I'll put together a rifle with a little faster twist aimed at shooting the heavier loads.  Right now I'm reworking a Ruger 35 Whelen and I don't think the wifle will let me do two at one time.  I just installed a HS Precision stock and am putting in a Timney trigger in the next week or two.  I just installed a new set of rings and a new scope set down low like I like them, so I'll have to be patient for now.  Several years ago I passed up a nice Savage 99 in 358 Winchester for $400 at a gun show in Florida and could kick myself for it now.  They're going for a lot more for one in good condition now.  With heavier bullets there's not a hairs difference between the 358 Winnie and the 350 Remington magnum due to bullet seating depth in the short magazines.

[ruffled feather]

I shot two small bucks with mine this year, one six-point(3x3) and a 8-point(4x4). both neck shot at about 35-65yds, no muss, no fuss. I just got the 358 this fall after selling off my other about 12 years ago. also have a 35 Whelen Ackley Improved that I took one buck with last year another one shot-one kill neck shot at about 70yds. so far have only used "old" factory ammo in my 358, 200gr silvertips. but I did own the dies and 100 cases for more than a year before I even got the rifle! one of the bucks I got this fall did a complete somersault when the bullet hit him, but he didn't take another step.
One question though who's Elmer? Fudd?
Just kidding!

[shotgunner]

Feather

My gun shoots the Silvertips also, but I have only hunted with handloads. There is a gun store locally that had a big box of new brass, several hundred pieces. It sat there for 2 years, and I only bought 50. When I sent the gun off I went in to buy the rest of the brass and it was gone! Timing is everything. As far as "who's Elmer" thems close to fighin words, but not quite. I really miss the old gun writers, they spoke from experience. Shotgunner