Fixes for bipod accurasy ??

[tuxdad]

Howdy,

I'm the proud owner of 2 NEF's.. The first being a 308 survivor, and the other being a 22 hornet...

I've been reloading for the both a good while...

I'm able to get a little over quater inch groups with reloads from my hornet, I'm proud to say, off of a rest but with bi-pods, my groupings go straight to the pot(opening to 2 and 3 inches)... Are there any fixes for this or maybe better bi-pods ? The bi-pods I'm using now are harris'...

I was thinking of maybe putting a couple pieces of weather stripping between the bi-pod and the forearm, but haven't yet...

Hope you all can help...

Tux

[huntnut]

practice practice practice

[myarmor]

I can't find my original thread, but I drilled an extra hole about 1/2" away from the forearm spacer and mounted aan Uncle Mikes slling swivel stud for my my Bi-Pod much lower near my receiver. I have pics, maybe I can find them.....It shoot's great this way, though it takes a bit of getting use too.







-Aaron

[safetysheriff]

i'd only use the weather-stripping if it is very smooth -- very low on friction.   (that's why i put smooth cloths over the leather sandbags on my rests).

shoot with something very smooth on the bottom of the legs, and place the legs of the bi-pod on something smooth and of one piece itself.   if the legs drop down into or run across the openings between some 2" x 4" s, for example, your accuracy will go down the toilet!   i'd take a 12" by 24" piece of smooth plywood to the range with me if i had to......to get that SMOOOOOTHNESS.

good shooting to you,

ss'   

[McLernon]

See my thread on vertical stringing and stock tightness. I think that support under the hinge pin takes care of a number of things that contribute to vertical stringing.
That's my problem right now with my new .204 Handi. I have not done any worrk on the gun yet. Also, shooting with the gun supported under the hinge pin makes it difficult to steady the rifle and get small groups as the front and rear supports end up being so close together.

Good luck to you!!

McLernon

[slik r slik]

First off I think your dealing with two problems. One is the finicky fore end of the Handis/NEFs, the second is bipod hop,especially noticeable on larger calibers often worsened by anticipated recoil by the shooter. I shoot my 223 Ultra heavy barrel with fixed bipod, a swivel- notched legged bipod,  shooting sticks, and off my ruck/pack. The answer with my problems with the fore end was full length pillarbedding using Devcon 10110 and also bedding the plastic fore end cap. this eliminated all problems with where to "rest" the fore end and the use of the existing swivel as the attachment point for the bipod. As far as the bipod goes I use Harris, but there are enhancments (1) Tanks speed knob and (2) Pod-Loc lever for swivel type bipods. Using your bipod does require practice , but realize that surface (dirt ,gravel,cement,wood,uneveness etc.) effects grip of the legs, also avoid leaning into the bipod which presprings your hold. Remember that sighted in off a bench/shooting vise is not sighted in with a bipod. sight in the way your going to use the rifle.  Remember that it is not "practice" but "PERFECT PRACTICE" that improves you.

[tuxdad]

Thanks for the help all...

Slik r slik I'm looking at getting it pillar bedded by PRW once the tax guy comes by with my return(hopefully)...

My Armor, that sounds like a pretty good fix for now, will have to look into that ....

I'm thinking of getting a couple of new forearms for it in the future so I wont feel too bad about drilling a hole in the stock...

Tux

[myarmor]

My Armor, that sounds like a pretty good fix for now, will have to look into that ....

I'm thinking of getting a couple of new forearms for it in the future so I wont feel too bad about drilling a hole in the stock...

Tux

I felt the same way and was afraid of messing up my nice lam forarm.  But in all honesty, it's great having an extra sling stud. And once I did it, I never looked back. Going to do it with my new laminates I just replaced off my Ultra as well.
 O and welcome to GBO. Were are my manners

[Fred M]

Tuxdad
Supporting the rifle under the hinge pin is neither an option nor is it practical. The fault of vertical stringing lies not where you support the rifle. But rather in a poor fit of the barrel face to the standing breech, minimal latch engagement and weak compression spring behind the latch, loose hinge pin contact to underlug.

Supporting the rifle under the hinge pin has many accuracy and mechanical faults which may not be too obvious at the shooting range. I can shoot my two Handis from any place of the forearm without sacrificing accuracy with either a bi-pod or my cross sticks. Offhand shooting, hand support is under the hinge pin.

As soon as my hinge pin support on the undergug gets impacted( loose joint) I get vertical stringing and groups open up. This poor piece of underlug iron is causing a lot of frustration if you do a lot of shooting.

All the rest of loose joints should be addressed and the forearm bedded solid with uplift pressure on both ends.

See my web site. How to accurize a Handi.