Controlled round feed options

[Questor]

Are there any controlled round feed rifles available? Is that a bad thing? I know the CZs are controlled round feed, but mine, ironically, is the only rifle I have feeding quirks with.

[The Sodbuster]

Ruger's M77 MkII is controlled-round feed.  Remington markets the model 798 that is an eastern-European manufactured mauser action with controlled-round feed.  Sako makes a newer model 85 rifle that's controlled-round feed.  Savage's short-magnum rifles use controlled-round feed.  And the Model 70's still in stock are controlled-round feed design.

[foto]

Don't forget to add CZ and Kimber to the list and of course Mauser which I believe still makes rifles though a little rare over here in America.

[nabob]

Controlled round feeding is hype for most hunting situations any of us will see. It got all sorts of play from Jack O'Connor when the new M70's came out in the 60's with push feeding. He led a big hullabaloo about the new method, claiming it was inferior. In his point of view, the ability to push a round into the chamber while upside down being mauled by an huge beast made controlled round feeding paramount.

That hasn't happened to anyone I personally know in over 40 years of hunting.

[Dave in WV]

Questor ,  take the action out of the stock and check if the magazine well is in properly. Sometimes they are in a bind and that can cause problems. You shouldn't have feeding problems with your rifle unless you have had it rechambered/rebarreled for a different cartridge that has a different profile. The factory should stand behind it.

[Coyote Hunter]

Controlled round feeding is hype for most hunting situations any of us will see. It got all sorts of play from Jack O'Connor when the new M70's came out in the 60's with push feeding. He led a big hullabaloo about the new method, claiming it was inferior. In his point of view, the ability to push a round into the chamber while upside down being mauled by an huge beast made controlled round feeding paramount.

That hasn't happened to anyone I personally know in over 40 years of hunting.

There are other reasons to favor CRF, including the simplicity of the design – no springs to go weak or rust or break, no plungers to get stuck by fouling.  Just a fixed ejector that allows you to gently angle a case out so it can be plucked by hand when at the bench or throw a case clear by cycling the bolt faster.  I have both styles and prefer the CRF for those reasons.

[nabob]

What I was referring to was the horror and outcry that occurred when Winchester changed its feeding mechanism. Mostly, the preference is theoretical (less to go wrong, but in all the years I've had push feeders, nothing has actually gone wrong with the bolt) or convenience, as you state. My gosh, you'd have thought the sky was going to fall when Winchester announced it was going to push feed system back in the 60's. All the sports writers, led by O'Connor, thought push feeding was an inherently inferior system. Time did not prove their fears correct, though. 

I understand there are reasons to prefer a CRF. No problems there. I was making the point that CRF/push feeding is mostly a personal preference thing for the hunting we are likely to do.

[Slamfire]

When the Mausers developed it, CRF had a definitive point, an excited man couldn't jam two rounds in the action at the same time, if he cycled the action far enough to pick up a new round the one previously chambered HAD been ejected. For hunting non dangerous game there really isn't any point.