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« on: January 10, 2005, 10:40:21 AM »
Maybe someone here can clear this up for me. Got in discussion over weekend while rabbit hunting with my beagles with guys i hunt with. Can I or not hunt out of NEW YORK STATE with my handgun and am I only bound to the states that reconize NYS PISTOL PERMIT(IDAHO,IND.,MICH.,UTAH and VERMONT)
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 11:39:40 AM »
Depends on thew laws of the state you want to hunt in.  For example, you could apply for a nonresident carry permit for the state of PA, if they don't recognize your NY permit.  
 
My home state of Illinois does not grant handgun carry permits but I can hunt deer and other game in this state with a handgun.  You could check to see if Illinois allows non residents to hunt with a handgun.  I don't see anything that prohibits non residents from hunting with a handgun in Illinois as long as they posess a valid non resident hunting license.  Please verify this with the Illinois DNR for yourself.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 12:26:22 PM »
Hunting and carrying a concealed weapon are two totally different things. If the State you are going to hunt in allows hunting with a pistol, then you are allowed to use a pistol. Now if you are carrying a concealed weapon, you can carry in States that recognize NYS PISTOL PERMIT.  Hunting and carrying laws are two separate items.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 05:23:07 PM »
Redhawks right I know here in KY you can hunt with a piatol as long as you have the proper hunting license, don't much matter what you use as a firearm. You can also carry it  on your hip or in a shoulder holster just about anywhere as long as you don't conceal it, If you have a CDWs permit just follow the rules. 8)
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 06:15:45 PM »
Pa requires a CWP or a sportsmans handgun permit to carry concealed while hunting. Some say you need the sportsmans permit to hunt with a handgun, the way I read it you dont need any permit as long as it is not concealed and a handgun is  a legal hunting weapon where you are hunting. I have asked WCOs at various sportsmans shows and got various answers on that though.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 11:05:35 PM »
In Indiana you must have a handgun license to hunt with a handgun anywhere other than your own private property. Without a handgun license you can't possess a handgun anywhere other than your home/property. If your state doesn't issue handgun licenses such as Illinois then you can't handgun hunt in Indiana. If your state issues handgun licenses then you can handgun hunt in Indiana. Indiana honors all handgun licenses foreign and domestic. So in Indiana hunting and carrying a weapon aren't two totally different things. Another important note about Indiana, while handgun hunting you must open carry. You can't carry concealed while handgun hunting in Indiana.

See the following links:

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar47/ch2.html

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/huntguide1/hunting1.htm

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 01:15:00 AM »
LMM you are correct in saying, check all local laws. I should of put that in my post also.  All States have different laws. I went to Alaska and had my handgun as back up but I did not need a permit to use it for hunting. But I do have a CCW for Delaware and Alaska recognizes it. Also anytime you go to a different State to hunt, make sure you check the game laws as well as local handgun laws. It will keep you out of trouble.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 02:46:30 AM »
DOGGY:  I will second LMN's response and add that if you want to hunt out of NYS with your handgun, it would be best to check with all the states you will pass through and hunt in for laws and regulations pertaining to your hunting with and trasporting a handgun.

Be advised that a in number of states if you create an infraction (violate a regulationor law), your sporting arms or any other you have with you are subject to confiscation, which means you never see them again and somebody else gets them.  HTH.  Mikey.

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 05:52:10 AM »
Generally speaking once you get out of the north east pretty much all the other states will let you use your handgun for hunting. Now how you carry it in your vehicle while in that state will vary. In general tho you must have it unloaded and cased while traveling. Unless the state you are in recognizes your state's carry permit do not plan to carry concealed on you or loaded in your vehicle.

Again generally speaking it's OK to carry the gun in a holster openly while hunting. Hiding it under clothing is likely NOT gonna be OK in those states that don't recgonize your state's carry laws but open carry IN THE FIELD/WOODs usually is.

For specifics check each state's rules.


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Re: Handgun out of State
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2005, 06:07:07 AM »
Quote from: DOGGY
Maybe someone here can clear this up for me. Got in discussion over weekend while rabbit hunting with my beagles with guys i hunt with. Can I or not hunt out of NEW YORK STATE with my handgun and am I only bound to the states that reconize NYS PISTOL PERMIT(IDAHO,IND.,MICH.,UTAH and VERMONT)


In Arizona you do not need a permit to hunt or carry a handgun.  It must be displayed openly unless carried concealed with a CCW permit from or recognized by Arizona.  

It is considered to be carried openly if it is holstered and any part of the holster is showing from under clothing.  You can carry loaded in a vehicle except that if it is hidden and unholstered withing the reach of the person, then it is considered concealed.

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2005, 03:05:52 PM »
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Again generally speaking it's OK to carry the gun in a holster openly while hunting. Hiding it under clothing is likely NOT gonna be OK in those states that don't recgonize your state's carry laws but open carry IN THE FIELD/WOODs usually is.

would you consider the following to be ok?
now is putting a rain poncho over you and it drapes over your handgun or you have a long coat that covers 1/2 the holster

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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2005, 07:45:53 AM »
If it were me, you would be okay.  Remember that all game wardens do not have the wisdom of Solomon.  Most do haved common sense.  

Va. just changed the law and now lets CCW people carry concealed in the woods during the season.  They also have more states listed now for reciprocity too.  

To handgun hunt in Va, you just need a firearm hunting license.  However you must remember that different counties have different regulations for different firearms.  Example, shotgun only or 00 buck only for deer.  These are mostly in the lowlands in more populated areas.   :wink:
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2005, 09:45:43 AM »
CJ, The Sportsman's carry permit is required if you transport the handgun in a vehicle or hunt with it.  I purchased a Sportsman's Carry permit when I first moved to Pennsylvania and soon aquired a Concealed Carry permit. The language that accompanied the Sportsman's Carry permit application specified that the weapon must be worn on the outer garments and not be concealed. I just read my old permit and it READS, " This must be carried with a valid hunting, trapping or fishing license with the original application and be produced on demand to any law enforcement officer whild carrying a handgun in the field". And in bold type, " NOT FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2005, 11:30:39 AM »
THIS is why we need a National CCW and/or carry law. The way most states carry laws are written defys common sense.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2005, 12:53:58 PM »
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THIS is why we need a National CCW and/or carry law. The way most states carry laws are written defys common sense.



A-men to that. I think if you can carry in one State you should be able to carry in all.  :D
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2005, 12:57:00 PM »
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Quote from: dakotashooter2
THIS is why we need a National CCW and/or carry law. The way most states carry laws are written defys common sense.



A-men to that. I think if you can carry in one State you should be able to carry in all.  :D



I'll third that!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2005, 06:03:15 AM »
Flash,
  Ive held a CWP {liscense to carry firearm} about 15 or so yrs now, so I dont bother with the sportsmans permit anymore, and I carry under my parka while hunting.Where it gets a little sideways to me is the book states "A Sportsmans Firearm Permit or Liscense to Carry a Firearm is required to carry a handgun CONCEALED or in a Motor Vehicle".  Later it states "A person holding a SFP may not carry a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle". As far as I know as long as you are in transit to or from a LEGAL shooting activity, {ie shooting range, hunting I would think} in PA you dont need a permit of any kind. It must be unloaded, seperate from the ammo, and not easily accessable. I can not find anything that says you need any permit to hunt with an UNCONCEALED handgun. And as I stated I have received various answers from various WCOs at various times. I will have to dig out an old SFP and check it out. I used to have to get 3 a year back when it was issued for a specific handgun.
12 or 13 years ago, we were heading to WY to hunt, my buddy called the warden out there to ask what he needed to carry a handgun while hunting.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2005, 07:45:26 AM »
:roll: It's always best to stay legal, but bottomline...............

"I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six."

I feel comfortable carrying concealed or open in most of the western states, but when I cross the muddy Mississippi I'm always a little mose cautious in how it is carryed.