Hillary kicks butt.

[powderman]

lizzie. I'm curious, other than the obvious baiting, why are you here?? POWDERMAN. 

[Lizzie-6]

Do you have anything of value to add?

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Since you've been here, all you've done is irritate and annoy people. Depending on whether or not that's the response you had hoped for, you're either a troll, or a complete failure at communicating with other people. Apparently I don't have anything of value to add, and neither do you.

Since you've been here, you've accused people of carping and complaining... Then proceeded to carp and complain about us doing so. Either get off your high horse and join the conversation in a meaningful way, or just move along.
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Carping and complaining is a common theme that runs thru threads that begin with a "news" articles from neo-conservative and neo-liberal websites.  They are written specifically to provoke irritation among a targeted readers.  Read thru some of these threads again and honestly tell me that irritation was not expressed before my entry.  I merely pierce thru the smokescreen and point out the hypocrisy.  That's the nature of polemic discourse.  I know their game and they know mine.  We all started doing this on newspaper editorial pages many years ago.   

Those who realize they've been duped for an extended period, quietly rethink the issue, and modify their position accordingly.  Obviously, some folks "just don't get it".  They already know everything (or have been so told) and they predictably "dig they're heels in".  That's an important role and I appreciate that you have chosen to step up.

Let's do it again sometime.

[PS:  I ride offroad bikes and quads.  Is a troll a species of horse?  Just asking.]
 

[Lizzie-6]

lizzie. I'm curious, other than the obvious baiting, why are you here?? POWDERMAN. 

Just trying to lighten the mood.  Baiting is such an aggressive word.  Some articles are written and published for the specific purpose of provoking an emotional response from a targeted audience.  To "call people out", so to speak.  I agree that leading a thread with such an article could be called "obvious baiting".   I just think of it as an invitation to those who may have a different viewpoint than the commentator.

But it IS your thread.  You can call it whatever you want.  I'm just grateful for the opportunity to share my views. 

Thanks.

LIZ

[gypsyman]

Kimber's original post was how Hillary kicked butt on the investigative committee for the Bengazi affair. Now, with emails being hacked, and slow but sure the truth is coming out, I got a feeling, ol' Hillary is going to be licking her wounds, and tucking her tail between her legs. And, be real happy she's where she's at, instead of where situations like this take place! gypsyman

[vabeachman]

when a politician lies about things that really  do not even matter, there is some morally wrong with them.  Hillary told a story about how she was in Kosovo with her daughter and how they had to dodge bullets.  The video tape of event showed a red carpet rollout with all the ceremony, nobody ducking bullets, why lie about that, she is nuts and an attention seeker.  Kinda of like Romney claiming to be a big time hunter and then having to retract that.  Why do they feel so compelled to lie about everything? 

[Lizzie-6]

Kimber's original post was how Hillary kicked butt on the investigative committee for the Bengazi affair. Now, with emails being hacked, and slow but sure the truth is coming out, I got a feeling, ol' Hillary is going to be licking her wounds, and tucking her tail between her legs. And, be real happy she's where she's at, instead of where situations like this take place! gypsyman

Yes.  I got that totally wrong.  I forgot what thread I was in.  I'm such a flake sometimes.  Apologize to all.  Sorry Kimber.  Sorry Powderman.  Sorry CJ.

[Lizzie-6]

when a politician lies about things that really  do not even matter, there is some morally wrong with them.  Hillary told a story about how she was in Kosovo with her daughter and how they had to dodge bullets.  The video tape of event showed a red carpet rollout with all the ceremony, nobody ducking bullets, why lie about that, she is nuts and an attention seeker.  Kinda of like Romney claiming to be a big time hunter and then having to retract that.  Why do they feel so compelled to lie about everything?

Why do politicians lie?  Because some segment of the public demands that they lie in exchange for their vote.

In the strictest sense, a candidate for elected office is a politician,  The US Secretary of State is a civil servant.  A private US citizen is a private citizen.  All have rights under the First AND Second Amendment.  Right?  Or are there limitations to these so-called constitutional rights?  Do we really want to be discussing the 10 Commandments in the political discussion forum?

BTW, how does one know when a politician is lying? 

[JonnyReb]

when a politician lies about things that really  do not even matter, there is some morally wrong with them.  Hillary told a story about how she was in Kosovo with her daughter and how they had to dodge bullets.  The video tape of event showed a red carpet rollout with all the ceremony, nobody ducking bullets, why lie about that, she is nuts and an attention seeker.  Kinda of like Romney claiming to be a big time hunter and then having to retract that.  Why do they feel so compelled to lie about everything?

 Must be part of the "rules for radicals" checklist. Truely amazing how fluidly the lies pour out, but then again we don't think like they do. To the radical left and their political elite its just the common mode of operation I guess. J

[RPRNY]

Their lips are moving.

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[George Foster]

lizzie. I'm curious, other than the obvious baiting, why are you here?? POWDERMAN. 

Powderman,
 
I am curious other than apparently sitting in front of your computer all day searching for things to post on Graybeards what else do you do?

[powderman]

lizzie. I'm curious, other than the obvious baiting, why are you here?? POWDERMAN. 

Powderman,
 
I am curious other than apparently sitting in front of your computer all day searching for things to post on Graybeards what else do you do?

 
GEORGE. I walk every day as much as my heart and legs will let me, At the moment getting ready to drive 50 miles see a heart dr, I haven't seen one since open heart 9 1/2 years ago and I'm tired of eating aspirins and taking nitros. I really hope he can help me. Thanks for asking. POWDERMAN. 

[vabeachman]

there are really about 612 commandments, not just 10.  When people who are trying to get my vote and I find out that they lie about even most trivial thing I will not vote for them.  Writing that people expect their politicians to  lie and to just get over it is ridiculous.  I feel bad for Hillary in that due to her behavior she is becoming an anti-Christ and I wish she would change her ways so her soul would not be jeopardy,  just as I feel about all sinners and sin.  Short term gain in exchange for eternal damnation.

[SHOOTALL]

The value of this thread is that it clearly shows the Disney land gone banana's mentality of the left. Anyone who thinks Hillary is anything less than a criminal is off their medications. Even overlooking the Benghazi incident someone show me a single example of anything she has done that is worthy of note.

The LEFT?  You're killing me!  The entire US political spectrum is left of center these days.  Do you even remember the last "conservative" presidential candidate?  I'll give you 100 guesses.

Regarding the criminal thing, if you're serious, bring the charges to the appropriate court of law and have it out.  The minute she's convicted, I'll call her a criminal too.

What are you waiting for?

Didn't both her and Bill turn in their law lic. to avoid court/conviction ? or am I mistaken ? Of course there are certian laws that prohibit certian people in govt. from being taken to court even though they indeed broke the law.