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Offline retrosub

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What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« on: January 30, 2010, 11:54:34 AM »
I'm making a custom zebrawood stock. My friend gave me the wood, and I figured, why not? I've routed and fitted the forend, but haven't shaped it. The stock has the proper holes in it, but it's also not shaped yet. I could go long or short, low stock or monte carlo with a rollover. But I don't think I'll try a thumb-hole stock, that's too much for me.

Now zebrawood is about 1.5x as dense as walnut, or twice as dense as pallet wood stocks. No matter what kind of stock I make, it'll be heavy. So it makes sense to put this stock on a gun that has a lot of kick.

I could make a standard length forend up to the length of a Mannlicher (on a 22" bbl). But I already have a walnut Mannlicher 30-06 Handi, and I like it as is, so I'm not going to put the zebrawod on that. Nor will I put it on my 410, that seems just pointless. I'm gun shopping.

Here are some options:

a) 12 ga - Everything I've read about the 12 ga Handi says it's a heavy kicker. The heavy stocks should soak up some of that. Maybe order the 32" bbl 12 ga and make a nice trap gun out of it? Although there's the convenience of the 28" bbl gun, they go on sale every other week at Big 5.

b)  45.70 - My 30-06 does just about everything I need a hunting rifle to do, but a 45-70 seems like a lot of fun. But which 45-70? I have a scoped rifle, so maybe one with open sights... A 45-70 BC with a long forend might look really cool.

c) 35 Whelen - This would make a good African plains gun, not that I'll ever get to Africa, but one can dream of shooting zebra with a zebrawood gun.

If you had a chunk of wood ready to shape, how would you do it and what which gun would you use it for?
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2010, 12:29:50 PM »
Thats some nice looking wood! I would go with reg. stock long forend, with long forend if you mess it up you might still have enough wood for a reg. one, cal. 45-70 maybe.Please post what it looks like when your done.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2010, 12:36:03 PM »


 You can always sell it!!!!! somebody would buy it. Marv.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 01:21:07 PM »
a 45/70 buffalo classic would be awesome wearing such beautiful wood. especially if you could give it some of the shuetzen flair
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 05:35:41 PM »
+1 for the .45/70 BC.
However, seeing all that extra width on the fore end makes me think beavertail varmint...
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 05:45:03 PM »
Quote from: OSOK on January 30, 2010, 05:35:41 PM
+1 for the .45/70 BC.
However, seeing all that extra width on the fore end makes me think beavertail varmint...

+1 on that.  A BC would great stocked that way.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 05:46:10 PM »
45-70  BC  32 inch

will  end  up  like a real nice  Kentucky rifle

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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 10:39:12 PM »
That is some nice wood. You said the stock has the proper hole in it? If it is already drilled for the mounting bolt, that is your only limiting factor. Thumbhole part of a stock is the easy part(if the mounting hole was not bored already)

 From the way you have the wood positioned on the gun, Monte Carlo and rollover stock is also not an option. There is not really enough wood on the high side. I would go as close to Monte carlo as you can. That way if you dont like the looks you can cut to non monte carlo. If you dont like the non monte carlo you can cut it back to some version of the BC or Ky longrifle.

 Make sure you post up picts.
 Which ever you decide on, it will be a gorgeous looking stock.

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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2010, 12:05:22 AM »
The BC is very heavy and cumbersome.  The extra wood would make it more so.  The 22" is perfect.  The 24" stainless is cool also.  Too much foreend weight will pull the part that the foreend screw goes into off the barrel when you fire it.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2010, 02:31:50 AM »
Quote from: Swampman on January 31, 2010, 12:05:22 AM
The BC is very heavy and cumbersome.  The extra wood would make it more so.  The 22" is perfect.  The 24" stainless is cool also.  Too much foreend weight will pull the part that the foreend screw goes into off the barrel when you fire it.

I have to agree , the BC would not be my first choice , the 204 or 223 with a wide flat forarm and a roll over Monti-carlo butt stock would make for a fine bench gun to shoot both paper and varmints like P-dogs with .  ;)

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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2010, 04:22:58 AM »
i  like the  European  style  ''hog back'' stocks  much better  than mote carlo
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2010, 05:14:26 AM »
Here's Stuffit's BC with a nice GSI stock.

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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2010, 05:15:16 AM »
I traced a NEF monte carlo stock onto the wood before I drilled it, so I know there's enough wood to make a MC. A rollover would be the same height I think, just cut into the stock so the cheekpiece is exposed more.

Interesting thoughts on the BC, both pro and con. I like the 24" 45-70, but the 22" with iron sights seems just as attractive. A low stock for iron sights means I could use it for a shotgun as well.

After looking at the picture again, I just realized I sloped the grain the wrong way on the forend. Ack! The grain on the butt points down towards the middle of the buttstock and the grain on the forend should be level or slope gradually down towards the rear as well. I got it wrong. So I have to reverse the forend, drill another hole. That means I won't be doing a Mannlicher. Maybe I'll do a forend similar to the USH 12 ga. I can always make it shorter if there's too much weight.

I'll post pictures as I go.

EDIT: Just saw the custom GSI stock, that's their varminter forend I believe. I was thinking something along those lines. The rollover seems really high, yeah, I don't have enough wood for that.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 05:53:03 AM »
That's a great project and a nice looking piece of wood retrosub. Please keep us posted and perhaps some pictures of the project as it progresses. I have some questions and a request about the hole for the stock bolt and have sent you a PM, Thanks....<><....:)
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 07:34:26 AM »
I sent a PM, but I think this info may help someone else, so I'm posting on the forum as well:

I got lucky drilling the hole, that's a fact.

I lined up the wood so that the grain was oriented how I wanted it, then I squared up the wood and center punched it on both ends for my pilot drill. The pilot drill is (I think) 1/4" diameter by about 12", which made it too short to go through the entire stock. Also, the throw on my drill press is about 4", so I kept having to drill down, reset the table height, and drill again. Then I had to flip the stock over and drill from the other end because the bit wasn't long enough.

And that's where I got lucky. The two holes actually met up! I didn't expect that, I was thinking some slop is OK, because the 7/8" hole does not have to be exactly in line with the 1/4" hole and it'll still work. The stocks from NEF aren't exact, and the one I have from GSI is better, but also not exact. Anyway, once that 1/4" hole was drilled all the way, it was a simple matter to drill the butt end with a 7/8" spade bit, it self-centered on the pilot hole just fine.

If I were doing this a lot, I would have resawn the wood down the middle and routed a 1/4" channel down both sides. Then I would glue it up and have my dead-straight pilot hole. The only thing is then you have a line down the middle of your stock where the glue-up is. On a laminated stock or a stock with fine grain, that wouldn't matter, but on a very figured piece of zebrawood, it would have been an unsightly glue line.

I haven't had a chance to work on the stock recently, but I will post pictures as the project develops. I suddenly got the urge to do a mannlicher stock for my kids' Marlin 795, but I can't decide if it'll be laminated or solid.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2010, 06:47:44 PM »
I have the stock about 95% finished now, just some more tapering on the forend and maybe take a little out of the cheek. I put finger grooves in the forend and pistol grip because I've done that on some of my spearguns and it's functional. I have a 12 ga 28" in the picture, but also a 18 1/4" rifled 12 ga stubby barrel. I should post some pics of that, it's pretty neat looking all short and fat.

I had enough wood for an extra forend that's a little longer, I might do a Schnabel (sp?) or something with that.
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2010, 07:20:29 PM »
I know it's a longshot here but if you ever want to sell that set................please let me know. :o
That's beautiful.



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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2010, 11:18:18 PM »
EXCELLENT JOB!  :o

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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 01:04:52 AM »
Looks good to me!!  Good job!

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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2010, 01:30:11 AM »
nice job, and congratulations on winning the first 20 guage youth givaway for your sons, I'm sure they are excited and happy!!!....<><....:)
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2010, 03:53:15 AM »
Yeah, I'm really stoked for my boys. My 410 is in NY and they aren't going to shoot the 12 gauge, no way. They have a Marlin 22, but I've been meaning to get them a proper shotgun, and so I can't believe how lucky we got. Thanks again Spanky!
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Re: What to do with a zebrawood stock?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2010, 05:20:50 AM »
Very nice work!!  ;)

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