45-90? 100? 110? 120? What to do, what to do...

[RaySendero]

45/120   

[tykempster]

Problem with the 45-120 shooting lighter bullets fast is twofold for me-

1-Unless I had a scout scope I couldn't shoot the 45-120 without severe danger to my eye socket, and a scout scope isn't that good for shooting too far.  Also the gun is still gonna kick like a biatch, they say you don't feel it when hunting, but I guarantee you think before you touch off the 45-120 from prone.

2-The BC on those light bullets stink!  Unless you like bigtime wind drift and your bullets slowing down fast, the 400 and above grain bullets are where the 45-120 shines.  The heavier TSX's have good BC's, but I still don't know how you are going to take advantage of that.

Conceivably you could put a brake on the 45-120, but I'm not sure how much it will help since the cartridge is low pressure.

[LONGTOM]

Impressive speed but still needs quite a bit of hold over at the longer ranges even with a 2" zero at 100.
OH well, just a thought!


LONGTOM

[AtlLaw]

...made in '88... Is it as strong as the newer ones?

No, it's not,

Thanks Tim, I figured that was the case.  I have to keep reminding myself that this is a "fun gun" and there is nothing practical about it!      Kind of like a show bike.  Sure you can ride it, but all tricked out it really isn't suited for serious motoring!   

I never even checked the H site for data.  Strange, I usually do.  Thanks for reminding me!  L-T ought to look at their 50-140 data!     http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

I think Tyke has the right idea.  I'll probably stick with heavy hard cast bullets for my fun gunnin.  But I can't wait to see what it does with Rem 405's...    Matter of fact, Ima gonna load some 300's and 405's up rite now for the BC barrel,   'member my rule, when I gets me a project gun I gots to kill sumpin wiff it before I starts messin wiff it!  So maybe it's a good thing my wife-mate wouldn't let me go huntin this weekend...   I got to mount a scope on the new barrel, will sight it in tomorrow then take it hunting next week!  I'm hoping that if I do all my "honey-do's" this weekend she ought to keep quiet for the next few weeks... 

'course I may just be trying to make myself feel better since my hunting partner called this morning to tell me the bucks are running does every which-a-way down on the farm... AND he happened to mention that he just killed the biggest buck he has ever shot in his life!      

[quickdtoo]

The Rem 405gr was one of the first bullets I loaded, the other was a 500gr Montana Precision Swaging bullet loaded over a case full of 777 cuz I had it, it shot good, but I decided at the cost of it, smokeless was the way to go. Next load was the 405gr Rem over 5744 using Accurate data, I had learned on the 777 range trip that it shot way low at 50yds and that I needed a lower front sight, the OEM  .584" 17A sight was just too tall, I contacted H&R and they said sent it in, didn't want to do that cuz it was rechambered, so I just bought a .404" 17A sight for it. Next trip to shoot it was 1½" high at 100yds with the FP-TK sight bottomed out using the 405gr/5744 load, group was 1½", in fact, my huntin buddy was with me, he shot the last two rounds of the 5 shots in that same group!!

Please print or save the data file below, it's not on their site any more, but it's still active for now.

Tim

http://accuratepowder.com/data/PerCaliber2Guide/Rifle/ObsoleteCartridges/45%20120%20Sharps%20Straight%20page%20365.pdf

[AtlLaw]

Please print or save the data file below,

http://accuratepowder.com/data/PerCaliber2Guide/Rifle/ObsoleteCartridges/45%20120%20Sharps%20Straight%20page%20365.pdf

I printed it AND saved it!  I tell ya, it's great to have friends that have personal experience in an area one is venturing into!     As my Daddy always said, "It's a wise man who learns from the experience of others."   

[quickdtoo]

Yessir, that it is!!

[tykempster]

Quick, what could a 50-140 do at 50k pressures?  Thinking Ruger #1 possibilites...

[quickdtoo]

Need some bullet specs, there are no .512" bullets listed in QL.

Tim

[AtlLaw]

a 50-140 do at 50k pressures?

Durn boy!     What are you trying to make up for with this size thing!?   

[tykempster]

2 inch long 700 grain sound about right for .512?  I'm just guesstimating here.  Should get 2100-2200 fps?

[quickdtoo]

Benchmark at 79% load density should get you 1979fps in a Ruger No1 24" barrel.

Tim

[tykempster]

Man that's weak.

What would a 32" barrel do?

[quickdtoo]

2138fps with 86% load density of Varget.

[AtlLaw]

2138fps with 86% load density of Varget.

Come on Tim!     Can't you see you're enabling this boy in his masochistic fantasies?      But ah, um, I wonder how that compares to the 500 NE!   
 

[quickdtoo]

He is a glutton for punishment, isn't he!! 

Tim

[Smokin Joe]

I wonder how that compares to the 500 NE!

Here's the Nitro Express rounds:

http://www.new-kynoch.apt-sites.com/cartridge%20range.htm

[tykempster]

We could beat the pants off that weak 500 NE stuff with the 45-120 and 400 grain TSX bullets!

[AtlLaw]

Oh my...    I feel a detached retina coming on...

[tykempster]

Deer season in a couple weeks.
45-120 shall "do work" as they say.  Pictures will follow!

[deadrabbit]

Can you still shoot 45-70 loads in the reamed out 45-120?  Or are you limited to the new caliber?

[tykempster]

It can etch the chamber and accuracy won't be that great.

That said I have shot my 45-70 round ball loads through my 45-120 to see how much quieter a 32" barrel is than 18.5", and the result was not much quieter but hit harder.

[Troyboy]

You fella's are a bad influence to a 45/70 handi holic.



                                    Troy

[deadrabbit]

Ahh shucks.  It would have been an easy sell if I could have still shot the 45-70 bullets in it.  Its still mighty tempting anyway. 

They are a bad influence aren't they?    Bad in a good way