What is cheap about a Savage?

[Graybeard]

I don't find an SPS Varmint on Remington's site. I do however find a limited edition type called the SPS Tactical sold ONLY thru Remington's autorized Premier Dealer. I suspect that's what you saw and if so it does not list the same as the other SPS guns do so that price is likely a pretty good one IF that's what you really want. It's not available at discount houses so it would surprise me to find one cheaper.

i looked at a Rem' Model 700 SPS Varmint today at a store in n.e. Ohio.    it may be a good deal if the price goes down on it.   they want $549 right now on a $604 (roughly) list price.   the rifle is too barrel-heavy, with its synthetic stock and a 26" bull barrel.   but.....i'd bet it's a "shooter" based upon the Model 700's we've worked with lately.    the stock is a very decent unit from what i saw.   it's form along the lines of the barrel was uniform and it's got two studs up front for installation of a bi-pod.   it seemed rigid enough to properly control a long-range barreled action.   

if they'd drop the price i'd consider buying one.

ss' 

[Ahab]

I have a new Savage model 16fss in .204 Ruger that has been back to the factory once and will be going back again. Not only is the bolt sloppy but factory loads have their primers extruding into the firing pin hole in the bolt. It's rounded and too large! Talk about a lack of Quality Control.

[jvs]

i looked at a Rem' Model 700 SPS Varmint today at a store in n.e. Ohio.    it may be a good deal if the price goes down on it.   they want $549 right now on a $604 (roughly) list price.   

if they'd drop the price i'd consider buying one.

ss' 

With fuel prices today, odds are if anything happens to the price, the MSRP will climb before the asking price goes down.  The way I interpreted your post.... "$549 might not be a bad price if the MSRP was higher...." 

There will come a day, in the not too distant future, when you might be kicking yourself in the azz for not buying what you wanted for a price you could have had it.  There is Inflationary pressure starting to show in some sectors of the Economy.

I would guess that the MSRP has already risen and those prices are on stock that is already in the warehouse.

[safetysheriff]

GB'

when you go to the Model 700 page, on the right side, right below where it says "Select Your Model 700" it will be the 4th one down.   it is, as you might guess, a 'New' one.    it's a good-looking rifle in my opinion; but the muzzle-heavy characteristic reminds me of how much better-balanced my NEF Handi' in .223 heavy-barrel is.    to carry this Remington i'd put the barrel forward with the buttstock hanging over the back of my shoulder, holding onto the barrel of the rifle.     the Rem' would probably be a top-flite shooter, however.

take care,

ss' 

[lilabner]

Savages are kind of like the AK-47. The 110 design is such that they are inexpensive to manufacture and assemble, and they get the job done. The Savage action is very strong. The barrel to action fitting is foolproof and strong. The trigger is excellent. Lock time is quicker than Winchester or Remington. Your odds of getting a good shooter at a reasonable price are very good. I would tell you how tight my .243 groups but if I did you would think I was either bragging or exaggerating. Savage is marketing their rifles on out of the box accuracy and if you read American Rifleman or Outdoor Life, you will find they are good at it.

[Graybeard]

Totally missed that one some how. Thanks I found it this time. I've not seen one and didn't realize they were making it. Yup I'm sure it will be a shooter every Remington Varmint rifle I've owned has easily shot groups under 1/2" at 100 for five shot groups with the loads it likely and getting groups down into the .2s is not uncommon with them.

GB'

when you go to the Model 700 page, on the right side, right below where it says "Select Your Model 700" it will be the 4th one down.   it is, as you might guess, a 'New' one.    it's a good-looking rifle in my opinion; but the muzzle-heavy characteristic reminds me of how much better-balanced my NEF Handi' in .223 heavy-barrel is.    to carry this Remington i'd put the barrel forward with the buttstock hanging over the back of my shoulder, holding onto the barrel of the rifle.     the Rem' would probably be a top-flite shooter, however.

take care,

ss' 

[jh45gun]

Gamemaster, Maybe that Winchester was old and worn out but that does not make them all bad. I would take a Winchester 94 as a go to gun if I could only grab one gun. Good rifle good cartridge in the 30/30. I have seen some ugly Savages but seen some nice ones too. All depends on what you pay for them as some of the more expensive ones are decent. GB Savages can be fussy my SIL has one in 7mm08 that they had a problem getting it to shoot well. The secret was with the thin barrel they were not waiting long enough between shots for good groups once they did that it was a tack driver. Also like most guns ammo makes a difference.  Now Savage is one brand I do not have but I would not pass one up if the price was right.

[ctrout]

I've had two Savages now and both of them have shot 1.5" groups with the first load I tried over the hood of my truck (best I've ever gotten from my $900 A-Bolt from a rock-solid rest is .8") .  The reason I bought the first one is that I could afford it as an out of the box deer rifle.  The reason I bought the second one is that I could afford it as a starting point for a fully custom gun that I could build myself.  It is currently a .270win with scope that I can use as-is for deer or elk hunting and I got it for $265 out the door.  For another $125 I got a 338-06 barrel, dies, brass, and bullets.  When this gun is a hand built 338-06 with Select grade claro glass bedded hand rubbed oil finish stock, a 3 pound trigger and a Burris 3-9x40 Fullfield II scope, I'll still have less into it than a factory Remchester.  I'll have built it myself and it will probably be more accurate.  A good place to find out anything you ever wanted to know about Savages is savageshooters.com.

[safetysheriff]

lilabner,

i know the reputation of the Sssssssssaaa.... action is strong, and believe that it could be so.   but the lock- time of the Remington is allegedly the fastest out there.   HOWEVER:  does anybody believe that the other brands are so slow that it might matter if one is not a world-class shooter?    when looking at any game the size of a coyote, at a distance out to maybe 300 yards, i doubt the lock-time of a Ruger is a problem, for example.    i just doubt that it matters all that much with the rifles that are of a modern design and production.    yeah, the .300 Win' mag' in the Mauser action just used to win the long-range title  IN 2006  at Camp Perry is possibly a relatively slow phenomenon.   but, the champ' learned to shoot with it and took the title.    you can read about it elsewhere.

ctrout'

do you really believe that your semi-custom can beat the price of a Remington Varmint rifle when it is on a markdown somewhere?    my buddy got one of their lightweight, fluted, stainless steel rifles for under $550 on a clearance.    that's on a $1040 list price.    yeah, it was a bargain, but you can find 'em if you are patient.   

take care,

ss'   

[Mac11700]

i just doubt that it matters all that much with the rifles that are of a modern design and production.

SS...it don't matter...my single shot Handi's and CVA Elites have real slow lock time for a  comparison ...Were not talking flinters & wheel locks here are we? 

Mac

[Siskiyou]

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My life changed when I went down to my grandmothers house and asked - hat in hand - if I could borrow my grandfathers Model 110 Savage 30-06.
My grandfather bought it new sometime around 1936 and shot many deer with it with open sights before my Uncles went together and bought a 4X Weaver scope and a Williams Flip Mount sight.
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That 110 sounds like a real collectors item.  I was around when the Savage 110 came out.  According to my information it was not brought on the market until 1958.  I purchased a 110 CL around 1970.  It is a great rifle, light, accurate, and dependable.  I have a few Remington's and except for the M760 the safety on them tend to brush-off.  The safety on my 110 has never been an issue.  The bolt on my 110 CL is comparable to the bolts on my 722 and 700.  And without a doubt it is tighter then the 788 bolt.

[safetysheriff]

Mac'

i guess that when i think of a dollar-for-dollar comparison the Handi's become even more of a phenomenon!    they are already Accurate in their own right; and they beat a lot of the competition by a wider margin when comparing them for price.    and i'm guessing you're right by a country mile that the lock time on that hammer is not going to make it the 'sprinter' of the group.    i know for sure that the .223 in a Handi' is able to handle the long-range varminting chore.   

i just had the pleasure of shooting a couple Model 700's this past Sunday.    one in .308 Win' and the other in .30-06 Spng'.     they were shot after we'd used a bore sighter to get the 'poi' from the previous scopes on them, and then used that reference to put on new ones.    they responded to 'the treatment' very well, thank the Lord, and we couldn't possibly see any advantage in owning a Ssssssssaaaaa       ( i hate when that happens!   )    i just don't see one of 'them' being any more comfortable off the bench, nor any more consistent in placing the bullets.   

i still think that the only change needed to the ADL Syn' was to beef up the stock a little bit.   but you can't tell by the way they 'print' on paper....

take care, Mac'

ss'   

[Mac11700]

SS...

I'm not the biggest fan of them...but...they are getting better...The low profile ones are light years ahead of what they used to be...this I know for a fact...Sure...I would rather own a Model 70 over any of them...including any Remington's...but...this is just a personal bias...nothing more...and since they are no longer made..this precludes most future purchases on new models...unless of course a good used one is found like my like new 223 HV..My sons Model 7 is more than acceptable for him..and I wouldn't have any problem buying him any model 700 he wanted ...I may or may not invest in improving my Savage...I could...but then again I could trade it in and find a used Winchester or Remington to build up....for about the same invested...For the money though...they are a pretty good deal with what you get in return...you just got to get over the obvious differences between the different brands...It kinda like certain foods...some folks just can't stomach particular foods...while others can't get enough of it...

Mac

[35Rem]

What's so cheap?  How about the ammo that they will shoot well?  My 110G 270 Win will put 3 in .75 inches at 100 yards with the cheapest Remington or Winchester stuff out there, you pick the weight! How about that?

[Slamfire]

I bought my Savage 110L when JFK was President-elect. At the time they were the only production left handed bolt actions available. After 30 years of use on everything from jack rabbits to desert mulies, it lost interest in lighter bullets. I had it rebored to what is now the .260 Remington. I think I like it better than ever. I financed a lot of hunting by picking up beaters at gun shows, prettin' and tunin' 'em up. Never had one that made me want to replace my Savage. 

[H666]

This is my savage .223.  It surprised the bleep outta me first time I shot it, then with a Nikko Sterlin 3-12x40.