Author Topic: remington 700 varmints vs/ Tikka t3 varmints (Read 1247 times)

GoneHunting · « **on:** September 21, 2004, 03:45:16 PM »

What gun do yall think is the best between the remington 700 varmint guns and the tikka t3 varmint? I like the tikka because they don't leave the shop without shooting a 1" moa or better. I like the remington because of its reputation, but it seems that remington is loosing it reputation due to quality problems. Suggestions greatly appreciated.

In God I Trust!

tripod · « **Reply #1 on:** September 21, 2004, 09:47:57 PM »

Hi, One vote for the tikka. I wouldn't say the REM is a bad one, just think the Tikka is better out of the box. Have two Tikkas now. Picked up a CZ 527 American .223 on sat. It is a POS and is going back tomorrow. Noticed two Weatherby vanguards at Walmart for $300 each.

GoneHunting · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2004, 02:21:19 AM »

Tripod,
So the CZ wasn't any good. That stinks. I'm pretty sure about the Tikka my self. I hope I can get one ordered in 7mm-08. Im not then I will get a 308win. You said you have two tikkas. Do you know weither or not the tikka t3 varmints have any type of beding done. (Alluminum, glass, etc.) I couldn't find anywhere stating that they did or they didn't. I know the barrel is fully free floating. Its hard to beat their garrantee, 1moa or better. I also like the owner adjustible trigger. Thanks for your suggestion. Information about the beding would be appreciated.

In God I Trust!

Grubbs · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2004, 04:28:51 AM »

I would check out gunbroker.com for the Tikka 7-08. That's where I got mine. I have 3 Tikka's and love 'em.

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2004, 04:34:29 AM »

TIKKA!!!!!!!!

And I'll go ahead and say it----Remingtons are bad-----as in ----not good.

Shamus99 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2004, 05:00:46 AM »

Tikka can't be beat in my opinion, unless you spend significantly more for something like a Kimber. They are just flat awesome.

One word of warning though, once you get a Tikka you'll be ruined forever because nothing else will ever do again! :grin:

I thought I read once that Wally World was carrying the Tikkas (or ordering them) is that true?

tripod · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2004, 05:22:29 AM »

Hi, I have a Tikka T3 Hunter(wood) and T3 Lite stainless. Both have a small aluminum block just in front of the forward trigger assembly screw. Did the dollar bill thing between stock and barrel on both. Wood was ok but polished it anyway. Synthetic was very tight and took alot of sanding to free float barrel. Used C02 cylinder with 120 sandpaper wrapped around it. 3/8 -5/8 groups at measured 100 yds. after that. Checked another T3 synthetic in store. same thing. The T3 lite stainless groups a little tighter.

GoneHunting · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2004, 05:33:22 AM »

Thanks for the info tripod. The tikka website stated that the t3 varmint stainless has a fully free floating barrel.

Grubs,
I will check out gunbroker.com to see if they can get me a t3 varmint stainless in 7mm-08. I think I will look at the 308win. though because it may be a little while before I can get into reloading and the 308 offers more choices in factory ammo.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

In God I Trust!

Graybeard · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2004, 06:56:40 AM »

I've owned a bunch of R700 varmint rifles in various configurations and have yet to own one that didn't put several of its favorite loads into 1/2" or less at 100 yards. So worry about the guarantee if you wish or just buy one who's reputation is all the guarantee you need. It is Remington for me.

dbuck · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2004, 09:26:59 AM »

I'm going to stick my two cents in on this post since everyone seems to think that Remington is a piece of junk and thats not the case, I'm not saying that you couldn't end up with a bad one from Remington, but you can get a bad rifle from any manufacturer. Case in point, I just purchased a Remington 700 varmit in .223 and I put 16 rounds, not 3, not 5, but 16 rounds in .750 at 100 yards right out of the box.

I also have a Reminton 700 varmit in 308 that will do the same thing and I got that about 7 months ago. The whole problem with this gun comparsion is that most people who like their rifles keep their mouth shut and the people who have had problems can't stop talking about them. I wish we would get off this bashing Remington all the time. The people who have purchased Remington products and like them and don't even bother coming on this web site would fill volumes and volumes and volumes.
I also have Savage varmit in 308 which I love and will outshoot most rifles that includes custom ones and again allot of people on this forum hate them and put the bad mouth on them even through they don't own one, I have Tikka's, Weatherby's and I love them all. Never purchased a bad rifle from any manufacture, guess I'm just lucky.

Well, I guess I vented a little bit, sorry about that.

dbuck

josebd · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2004, 10:03:44 AM »

way to go dbuck.

Grubbs · « **Reply #11 on:** September 22, 2004, 11:16:32 AM »

GoneHunting-good luck....I think I pd $499 for my T-3 s/s through gunbroker.com. I think you will find a selection of them on there now. IN GOD I trust also. Good luck.

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #12 on:** September 22, 2004, 11:20:33 AM »

My problem with Remington is---- it wasn't just the rare lemon I got----but EVERY stinkin one was just a sorry excuse of a rifle.

The more people you can steer away from such garbage is good for a few things.

1. A guy gets a good gun right out of the box--is happy with the purchase-----instead of disappointed and basically out $500.

2. Remington actually catches a clue because of lost sales---and FINALLY sees fit to put out a good product----right now all they are doing is selling the name------all you average Joe has ever heard about is Remington----so when he needs a gun---he tromps down to Wally World---and comes home with a sorry Remington.

Graybeard · « **Reply #13 on:** September 22, 2004, 12:51:10 PM »

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My problem with Remington is---- it wasn't just the rare lemon I got----but EVERY stinkin one was just a sorry excuse of a rifle.

I hear ya, and won't say I don't believe ya, because my luck with Ruger's runs about like you say yours does with Remingtons. Even tho many others seem more than happy with their Rugers.

BUT spread out over the last 40 years or so I've likely owned 250-300 Remington guns at least. ONE yup a total of ONE needed to go back to the factory for repair. So pardon me if I say what you've experienced is NOT normal even if you have experienced it.

As I said my luck with Ruger's seems to run like yours with Remingtons. Now I've owned far less, say maybe 50 or less Rugers but of them I've had less than half dozen I thought were worth owning.

So I'm convinced one person can get a run of bad of anything even tho it sure isn't normal. Personally I'd put Remington Quality up against any other manufacturer out there and I think they win hands down.

GoneHunting · « **Reply #14 on:** September 22, 2004, 01:23:21 PM »

GrayBeard,

I'm sorry it sounded like I was bad mouthing Remington. I was just stating what I've been reading. Like I said in my statement, I have several remington guns myself. One of which is a 700 adl walnut stock. I just got finished refinishing the stock and floating the barrell. I took it last weekend to sight it in for the upcoming deer season and it shot a .750 5 shot group. Thats not bad for a 35 year old gun given to me by my grandaddy that I've put at least 300 rounds through. I was just looking for a good out of the box varmint gun and thought I would give the Tikka a try. I also have a remington 1100 LT 20, A 870 express turkey gun and several other remingtons--never had a problem with any of them.
Now with that said, what do you think about the Sako made Tikka? Also have you seen the new 700vsf on the remington site(05' spring guns).

In God I will always Trust!

dbuck · « **Reply #15 on:** September 22, 2004, 02:44:39 PM »

Well, I have to stick with my previous post and float my stick with Graybeard about Remington's. I can't believe all the Remington's I got was just the luck of the draw.

I will say this, Tikka put's out a good rifle, but I don't think they are the Holy Grail that they are made out to be on this forum. I don't like plastic trigger guards and magazines, other then that they are very fine rifles and you can't go wrong owning one, but you can't go wrong owning a Remington either.

Downside to Tikka's: Can't get aftermarket parts like you can Remington such as stocks, triggers, barrels, etc. Their has been a whole aftermarket just for Remington's.

dbuck

GoneHunting · « **Reply #16 on:** September 22, 2004, 03:18:35 PM »

dbuck

I didn't think about the aftermarket for the remingtons. I also forgot about remingtons being made in the good ol USA. That does it for me. American Made American Owned. I think I will wait untill the new 700vsf comes out. I hope to get one in 308win. Later on add a jewel trigger and maybe and aftermarket barrel. So the Tikka is an ok gun but you think I will be happier with the remington. I'm like you and Graybeard, I own remingtons and have had no trouble with any of them. Why break the American tradition.Suggestions on the 308win would be greatly appreciated, I plan on purchasing a reloading outfit after I purchase the new rifle.

In God I Trust!

Grubbs · « **Reply #17 on:** September 28, 2004, 08:33:52 AM »

As far as aftermarket parts....I don't see the need for them for my Tikka's...fully adjustable trigger, integral scope mounts come with rifle (T-3). I guess if my stock broke I would need another, but that's about it.

josebd · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2004, 05:12:31 AM »

did a little target shooting this morning,little foggy,little cross wind,remington 700bdl varmint barrel,.223 53grain hp match hornady #2250,blc2 27.8,cci450,winchester case, 3 shots .335