Author Topic: Bergara barrel results (Read 5846 times)

Davemuzz · « **Reply #30 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:09:39 AM »

Quote from: bubba on February 03, 2009, 12:24:26 AM

well I own a cva optima elite in 50 caliber and 270. I will match the results from that blow my head off barrel with any encore ever made.

So, your saying it's true. There are no proof stamps on those barrels. They have not been subject to pressure testing before leaving the factory? Well, you gotta keep cost down somehow.

Dave

bubba · « **Reply #31 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:20:16 AM »

actually my remarks were facetious. But I expected someone like you to try to turn it around rather than go with the content of the post. Sometimes it isnt worth the effort to open the minds of closed minded people so keep your blinders on.

Davemuzz · « **Reply #32 on:** February 03, 2009, 04:18:19 PM »

I'll try too do my part.

bubba · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2009, 11:42:39 PM »

and you do it well

trophyhunter · « **Reply #34 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:12:00 AM »

ok my ? is this are the barrel at natchezz bergarra barrels they say cva

Davemuzz · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:59:41 AM »

Ummmm.....CVA huh? Well, read this http://www.randywakeman.com/WillMyCVAMuzzleloaderBlowUp.htm about CVA barrels and then you tell me what you think.

Dave

bubba · « **Reply #36 on:** February 08, 2009, 10:03:50 AM »

The barrels are not made by cva, they are made for cva. Some people get a hold of something and they just cant seem to move on.. The same posts over and opver with no proof. Oh yeah I forgot the great Randy Wakeman said it. This was said while he was workign for T/c and then savage. I wonder if he has a stake in saying the competition is bad. nah. Show me the proof. show me the bergara barrels blown up. Show me the injuries not just a post made by a blow hard. If BPI offered Randy Wakeman a lucrative contract, he would praise Bergara barrels up and down. Money makes him talkThen I womnder how many of you would go buy one because the great and powerful Randy Wakeman said so. Again lets see pics of the blown up barrels and carnage. I shoot high power 270 in a bergara barrel and I use loads near the upper end of safe. My head is still on my shoulders. Time to move on and admit there is competition for the great T/C

oldelkhunter · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2009, 10:14:34 AM »

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So, your saying it's true. There are no proof stamps on those barrels. They have not been subject to pressure testing before leaving the factory? Well, you gotta keep cost down somehow.

Dave

Dave, if I were to buy a Shilen or some other custom barrel for my Remington 700 would Shilen have proof tested it before sending it to my gunsmith? Come on I want to hear your response

Davemuzz · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2009, 10:49:02 AM »

Quote from: oldelkhunter on February 08, 2009, 10:14:34 AM

Dave, if I were to buy a Shilen or some other custom barrel for my Remington 700 would Shilen have proof tested it before sending it to my gunsmith? Come on I want to hear your response

Well......I hope your not getting that warm wet feeling down your legs waiting.....But tell me....if a competent qualified gunsmith order's an unchambered barrel from Shilen.....how is that suppose to be proofed? Please PM me your address and I will gladly send you a free roll of bounty....the quicker picker upper.

Dave

bubba · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:05:46 PM »

just about as an avoiding the question answer I ever saw. You ever think of getting into politics?

oldelkhunter · « **Reply #40 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:55:50 PM »

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Well......I hope your not getting that warm wet feeling down your legs waiting.....But tell me....if a competent qualified gunsmith order's an unchambered barrel from Shilen.....how is that suppose to be proofed? Please PM me your address and I will gladly send you a free roll of bounty....the quicker picker upper.

Dave

Dave, Shilen makes prechambered barrels as well. You can buy them from Brownells and no they are not proofed, nor are any other barrel manufacturer proofed even Border Barrels and Lothar Waltaarr made overseas are not proofed. Last I checked no gunsmith I know of proofs guns either. Just admit your owned lightweight and your spewing nonsense from another lightweight named Randy Wakeman. I am amazed he is not been sued countless times with his libel.

Davemuzz · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2009, 03:09:50 PM »

Oh.

The Bounty is on it's way. I still buy only American made products. I just don't send my money to foreign countries. My grand-pappys didn't fight so I would employ other countries. But I've stated that before. And I'm not going to re-invent that wheel.

Buy what you want. I don't care. Buy Bargara....but just remember...your shootin 'em on a darn good American made T\C frame. Send your money to Spain....then wonder why your children only work 4 days a week...if they have a job at all.

Ever see a dog chase it's tail?

Dave

oldelkhunter · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2009, 03:20:16 PM »

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Oh. The Bounty is on it's way. I still buy only American made products. I just don't send my money to foreign countries. My grand-pappys didn't fight so I would employ other countries. But I've stated that before. And I'm not going to re-invent that wheel.

Ok now that we have that cleared up and you lost your argument since you cannot seem to answer my question and come back with childish remarks you can be excused from this adult topic. It's just the fact that it is imported is what bothers you clearly not the fact that it is a very well made product.

Davemuzz · « **Reply #43 on:** February 09, 2009, 12:34:26 AM »

If it's so well made, then why does it state on the midway web site that it "may require fitting". In other words.....they are close.....but not all of 'em are right on the money.

Yeah....tell me about how good 'n cheap they are. Good 'n cheap never makes sense to me.

How's that unemployment thing going?

Dave

quickdtoo · « **Reply #44 on:** February 09, 2009, 05:39:03 AM »

Please stop with the personal attacks!!

Tim

bubba · « **Reply #45 on:** February 09, 2009, 12:16:17 PM »

H&R now remington makes american made guns too. They also have to be fitted. So your point is moot. I am still waiting for the proof of the blown up barrels you talk so much about

Davemuzz · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:11:05 PM »

H&R's barrel program is 180 degrees different from the Bargara. If you want to buy another barrel from H&R, you have to send your current gun into H&R and they will do the fitting. H&R will not sell you a barrel and then tell you to buy a file and "fit it up".

Now, that certainty doesn't stop individuals from selling there barrels on forums, or gun shows or anywhere else. Those types of sales are well beyond the control of H&R.

As far as the inferior barrels are concerned, I am just pointing to what a well known gun enthusiast has written. Funny though, you would think if there were no truth to it, a company with all of it's resources would certainly have filed legal documents to have such statements stricken from being posted on a public forum for all to read. Unless of course, there is truth to it. And in that case there isn't anything anyone can do about it.

BTW, if you go back and actually read my post, and look at MY WORDS, I never stated that these barrels blow up. I stated that a very well known and knowledgeable fellow made these statements.

So, again. Buy what you like. I really don't care.

Dave

bubba · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2009, 03:13:17 PM »

yeah pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. In other words you have no proof but keep spewing it like it is gospel. Like I said Randy Wakeman has a dog in the hunt. He works for the competition when he worked for t/c they were great when he went to savage t/c was inferior. So how much credence can you put into what he says. And you didnt say they could blow up you posted a link where someone else said they could blow up. I hope you do no bvlindly follow others through life like they are some sort of god. Keep the blinders on. Why do you think he does not come around here anymore? everyone saw through his crap.

Davemuzz · « **Reply #48 on:** February 09, 2009, 04:10:50 PM »

I think Midsouth has files on sale.

Dave

bubba · « **Reply #49 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:45:26 AM »

a hahaha you are hilarious. but you keep avoiding the posts. But why should I expect anything different. You rmiond ios made up no sense confusing you with the facts.

motivationteam · « **Reply #50 on:** February 12, 2009, 10:51:44 AM »

Come on guys I don't like to wade through a bunch of conflict to get to some useful information. If you want to attack each other take it off line and don't waste people's time reading your crap.

bubba · « **Reply #51 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:02:50 PM »

oh well. I am not going to let some uninformed person trash something he knows nothing about except what a person who gets paid to say they are bad says they are bad.

Keith L · « **Reply #52 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:25:53 PM »

Quote from: bubba on February 13, 2009, 01:02:50 PM

oh well. I am not going to let some uninformed person trash something he knows nothing about except what a person who gets paid to say they are bad says they are bad.

You both have made your points. Now grownups would nock it off.

bubba · « **Reply #53 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:28:47 PM »

well thank you for your input. Consider me out. Glad you could get in on it. And as I see it nothing had been posted for three or four days until now. So it was ended. But have a nice night.

Davemuzz · « **Reply #54 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:30:29 PM »

I haven't said a darn thing for 4 days. Everything I've had to say on this subject is said. 'Nuff said.

Dave

Keith L · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:35:02 PM »

Thank you both.