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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2007, 07:02:11 AM »
I started looking for a bubble level this morning and here are my preliminary findings...  I've found the traditional bubble type levels and some that are electronic.  Some mount to the base. Some to the scope itself and some to the barrel.

This rifle will be used on the range and in the field.  I don't think I want anything that may catch on brush, but want it easy to read for quick set up.  Also how are these affected by temperature?  Winter sets for yotes can be a bit nippy....  As far as the electronic versions...  Is their accuracy that good to warrant have to worry about another possibly dead battery?

Decisions, decisions...

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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2007, 04:05:04 AM »
mnmoosehunter have you received your rifle yet? I feel like I am the one waiting for it. Can't wait to hear how it shoots for you. Dale
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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #62 on: November 24, 2007, 06:54:05 PM »
mnmoosehunter have you received your rifle yet? I feel like I am the one waiting for it. Can't wait to hear how it shoots for you. Dale

Hi Dale...

The rifle will f-i-n-a-l-l-y be delivered to my FFL holder on Monday.  There was a small problem with UPS at the dealer and then throw in a holiday....  AHHHH!!!  However, as my Grandmother taught me, good things come to those who wait.   ;D 

Honestly, timing was not all "that" bad.  Muzzle loader season started today here in Minnesota.  My buddy and I got access to a new area so we decided to give that a try and let our "go to" spots cool down a bit.  We saw a few, but none within range of the smoke poles.  As we were walking back to the truck, the sun almost gone behind the trees...  A small choir of song dogs made themselves known!!!   ;D  Guess where we're going to be after December 9th?  Or if we fill out early?   ;)

Monday, I plan to pick up the "project" and assemble all the goodies.  Tuesday through Thursday I'm booked solid.  Friday morning will hopefully be the time the newest arrival will speak her first words!!!  Then it's back into the red willow swamp, for the weekend, to fill the freezer for the winter...

So Dale....  Rest easy, my brother!!!   :)  "Our" new rifle will be here shortly...   ;)

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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2007, 03:59:08 PM »
Well here she is...



Completely cleaned and completely factory.  Aside from the bipod that is...  To mount my Mueller, I went with the high, Leupold rings on standard Leupold bases.  With a very unscientific method, the trigger brakes at 3.8 pounds.  I can have my smith confirm this when I bring it in to be bore sighted.  I'm not 100% sure I like how high the scope sits.  I "don't think" I'm reaching for the eye bell.  It doesn't feel uncomfortable.  Just "new".  My next muzzleloader deer hunt is on Wednesday so I'm going to try to make it to the range tomorrow to hear her first words...

More to follow...

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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2007, 04:37:22 PM »
Looks great!!!!!!!! What ammo are you to site it in with? Remember mine really likes the Hornady 58 grain VMax. Hope it is a real shooter. If you ever swap out stocks I might be interested in yours if you wanted to sell it. Good luck with it Dale.
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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2007, 05:28:53 PM »
Looks great!!!!!!!! What ammo are you to site it in with? Remember mine really likes the Hornady 58 grain VMax. Hope it is a real shooter. If you ever swap out stocks I might be interested in your if you wanted to sell it. Good luck with it Dale.

Thanks Dale!!  And a bit of the credit goes to you, my friend, as your rifle was an inspiration for this project. ;D

It looks as if my range time tomorrow is a bust due to work.   >:(  When I am able to make it, I already have three flavors to try out.  Hornady (yes they are the VMax 58 grainers...), Remington and Federal.  Can't remember what I picked up in the last two and I'm too lazy to run to the safe right now.   :D  I think one was a 70 grain and the other a 100 grain...   ???  I think if my new baby shoots as good as it looks, I'll be a VERY happy camper!!!

A new B&C stock is in my plans and I'll keep you posted as to the timing of the swap.  I'll certainly  give you first shot at it...   Pun intended... ;D

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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2007, 05:45:51 PM »
Thanks that would look real nice on mine. Dale
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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2007, 06:52:30 AM »
Hey Dale...

I just shot you a P.M....   ;)

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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2007, 01:26:52 AM »
Hmmm I see your worried about QR mounts and wear in them. may I ask what types you looked at?

   I have a set of Leupold QR lever operated ones on a P-H 1200 super and they do work although I was not so happy with their fit on the action  :( they had to be fitted to fit properly and I mean fitted by a gunsmith who filed the curvature of the mounts to fit snuggly to the action> As they came from the packet the had gaps under them. I may try another set but if there are gaps this time they go BACK.

    I rountinely remove the scope for cleaning and have noticed no problems and the rifle is a light one and recoil is noticable asit's chambered for 7.92mm (8x57 Mauser) and with 196 Grn bullets at 2600fps you knoiw when you have fired it. No noticable POI change has been detected so far and they have been on it for a couple of years now. However I would ratehr save up a little more and get some Apel mounts. The EAWswing mounts are superb but costly  :'( have a set on one rifle and they do work extremely well  ;D on two rifles I now have Apel Roll off mounts and although Apel don't claim return to zero that's what they do. The Apel mounts are also windage adjustable which is nice when setting up the scope. The Leupold's are not but cost half the money here in the UK. Here are the leupold mounts on the P-h 1200:-





These are the EAWswing bases:-



Notice that the front is adjustable for wear. Windage is in the rings not the bases.




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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2007, 02:06:59 PM »
Well here she is...



Completely cleaned and completely factory.  Aside from the bipod that is...  To mount my Mueller, I went with the high, Leupold rings on standard Leupold bases.  With a very unscientific method, the trigger brakes at 3.8 pounds.  I can have my smith confirm this when I bring it in to be bore sighted.  I'm not 100% sure I like how high the scope sits.  I "don't think" I'm reaching for the eye bell.  It doesn't feel uncomfortable.  Just "new".  My next muzzleloader deer hunt is on Wednesday so I'm going to try to make it to the range tomorrow to hear her first words...

More to follow...
Oh come on now!!!!!!!!!!! you ever going to get out there and shoot this thing? LOL Dale
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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2007, 05:34:40 PM »
That is 1 fine looking rifle u got there, i had 1 in a 308 for about a year never shot it one time and sold it to my uncle never did shot it while he had it eather :(  and he sold it so i dont know how they shoot but they sure look nice i am sure they shoot very well let use know how it shoots ;D
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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2007, 08:01:21 AM »
That is 1 fine looking rifle u got there, i had 1 in a 308 for about a year never shot it one time and sold it to my uncle never did shot it while he had it eather :(  and he sold it so i dont know how they shoot but they sure look nice i am sure they shoot very well let use know how it shoots ;D

Thanks, backstrap!!  She is a looker, ain't she?   ;D

With all the bitter cold weather we've had here in Minnesota lately, and with the muzzle loader season coming to a close, I have had little time to even think about getting out a putting some lead down range.  And yes, it's driving me nuts!!!  I'll be leaving within the hour for my last chance at a deer with my smoke pole.  Temps in the low single digits and wind chill in the double digits BELOW zero.  A bit nippy for this kid, but you can't shoot deer on the couch.  At least not where I live...  LOL!!

I may have located an indoor facility with a 100 yard+ range a couple hours south of me.  I'm going to look into that as I'll be down that way next week on business.  I'll report back with my findings...


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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2007, 04:27:31 AM »
I just could not take it any longer....  Yesterday, I packed up the .243 around noon.  Grabbed a couple boxes of ammo, my cleaning kit and newly made shooting bench and I was off to the "range"!!!  F-I-N-A-L-L-Y, I'd be able to see what my new baby could do...   

My "range"...

Well, it's basically a plowed up bean field out behind the barn, with a "berm" of sorts down on one end, approximately 600 yards down range from where I set up my bench.  The only "bad" thing about my set up is that all the shots will be taken at a slight down hill angle.  For fine tuning on level ground, I'll be heading into the cities to a VFW sanctioned range that has a max distance of 400 yards.

Weather:

Temperature:  19*F
Humidity:  85 %
Wind Speed:  Calm
Barometer:  30.01"
Dewpoint:  3°F (-16°C)
Visibility:  0.25 mi

Not exactly what I would call ideal, but sometimes you just have to play the cards you're dealt...  Tall boots and the Carharts were called on as the uniform of the day...

Let's just say I didn't start off the day with optimism...  Getting back to where I was going to shoot, I almost buried my truck in the deep snow.  Not once, but twice!  Even with 33" tall tires, the old Ford was dragging everything from the bottom of the doors on down.  My first attempt yielded about 15' of forward motion before coming to a dead stop.  Hmmm....  (Note to self...  To get 4WD, you need to lock in the front hubs...  DUH!!!   ::)

Shooting:

I chose Federal Premium 70 grain Nosler Ballistic tips for my initial break in.  I figured I would start with a middle of the road bullet weight and see how that worked.  Then, after these, try some rounds lighter and some heavier to gauge my rifle's favorite flavor...

I began at 50 yards just to get the scope figured out.  With the exception of one "oops" (turned the windage the wrong way  ::) )  everything was "same old, same old"...  Take a shot, let her cool, make adjustments, yada yada yada...  Yank the bore snake through and start over....  I left that distance shooting three rounds into one cute little ragged hole roughly +2" directly above the bull!   ;D

I then moved out to my 100 yard target.  Basically with the same results.  Only this time, three shots were taken before any adjustments were made.  Grouping was "as expected" shooting typically 1 MOA per group.  Nothing really to write home about but very pleasing to see as these were my first rounds out at a "real" distance.  Shoot, cool, shoot, cool, shoot, clean.  This pattern was very time consuming and honestly a bit boring.  However, I did need to break in the barrel and didn't want to rush it any more that I already was...  At the close of this distance, I left a nice tight group of three about +1.5" over the top of the bull!  Two holes were touching with a small flyer being number three...   ;D  Again, I was more than satisfied with the performance of the rifle and with myself.  Even with a pot of coffee in me I was not "Shakes McGee" on the bench...  LOL!!!

Here's where the "rubber meets the road'...  After the cleaning, I took a walk and moved my target back to 200 yards.  Deep snow over a chisel plowed field makes for some tough going on these old knees!!  Back at the truck, I took a break, warmed up with a cup of piping hot joe to settle down a bit.

At 200 I used the same procedure as mentioned above in the 100 yard shots.  Shoot 3, cooling between each shot, make changes and clean.  Here's where this old guy got giddy as a school girl!!!  My first two shots landed to the right of the bull about 2", with number three being a shooter induced flyer hitting +1" up, +1" right.  After a slight tweak of the turrets, the next group started with three shots .5" up, 1.25" right.  I fired a fourth just to confirm the last three and thought I completely shanked the shot off the paper.  At least that's how it looked through my cheapo spotting scope...  WRONG!!!  When I went to pick up my target after I was done, I found I had put number four dang near through the center hole of my grouping!!!   ;D

Feeling chilled to the bone, and with a right to left breeze developing, I decided to make these my final shots and leave the 300+ yard work for later.  Having only three rounds left of this box, I was going to make them count!!!   A couple clicks of the turrets later and my last three dropped 1/2" left of the bull with almost perfect elevation.  Two holes touching each other just below the horizontal line, and one slightly above!!!   ;D

To say I'm happy with these initial results is the understatement of the year!!!  Never in my many years behind the trigger have I had basically "out of the box" rifle perform such as this.  And with mid grade, factory ammo no less!!!

Here's my baby...



Okay, so I changed the stock already...  LOL!!  It's so tough for me to pass up a good deal...

Here's what she did yesterday...



And it will only get better from here!!!   ;D

Please forgive the long post.  The coffee is really doing it's job this morning!  LOL!!!

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Re: Winter Project: Rem 700 .243
« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2007, 11:35:11 AM »
Good for you!!!!!!! Glad to hear you finally took it's virginity. It will only get better after it gets broken in. I believe I sped the process up by polishing the bore with Flitz. So you never got to shoot the 58 grain Hornady VMAX yet huh? Thanks for the report. Looking forward to hearing more. Dale
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