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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2011, 03:46:14 PM »
Not my cup of tea but, if you  do the trigger time and twice a week practice is needed and hunting groundhogs with same or similar gun.  go for it nice shot. some one not shooting 400-500 rounds  a year has no bussness trying that shot. groundhog hunting with a deer gun is some of the best practice there is  I have killed several groundhogs with my slug guns personally a 3 foot shot is what impresses me
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2011, 05:25:34 AM »
If it had been legal I would done my deer hunting with a .22 rimfire since my longest shot was 50yds.
I like to be close, but to each his own.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2011, 07:46:29 AM »
Just cause you are close dosen't keep people from complaining !
We hunt with dogs and some shots seem more like self defense than game shots . # foot shots happen in tight cover with little room for deer to pass.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2011, 09:20:42 AM »
Great shot and congrats!


Shootall,
I'm with ya on the dog thing. I've had folks tell me that ain't no kind of deer hunting but will be the first one out of the truck to follow a pack of beagles after rabbits.

To take a shot like this takes practice...lots of it! Not only does a shooter learn the gun but the way a certain round acts/performs. Would I take shot like that? No! I, unlike some, know what my limits are. I've proved my limits to myself and I accept them for what they are, so I know when to say NO.
 

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2011, 11:00:49 AM »
 I don't pratice that far with a rifle much less a handrifle  ;D ;)  so I would not take the shot either . But let one run by no problem !
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2011, 07:08:14 PM »
Well done Sir. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2011, 03:38:47 AM »
If the person shooting has the equipment and the skill necessary, the shot is ethical.  For me to try a handgun shot over 75 yards, on let's say a deer, would be unethical, because I have neither the equipment or the skill.

I say it was a superb shot, and fair chase.

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2011, 03:45:42 AM »
off topic, shootall,  I hunted with hounds most of my life and there's nothing like it.
I haven't tried it on deer only because it wasn't legal in Ill.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2011, 03:46:20 AM »
Lloyd said the object of hunting is to kill no matter the method. I wonder how many big game animals guys like sixgunner wound? And please dont tell us they don't because they practice so much and only shoot under perfect conditions.  This whole thing was about this guy bragging about his shooting prowess. I guess ethics is all about whats legal. Lets try some 150 yard bow shots next. It seems ok. After all they can kill at that range.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2011, 04:00:24 AM »
I personally would never shoot beyond the point-blank-range of the gun in hand.
for my peep sighted squirrel rifle it's about 40yds.  for the .264 I owned many years ago it was probably over 300yds.  modern rangefinders can extend how far you can shoot.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2011, 05:33:16 AM »
I dislike these threads where ethics and that's not hunting come up due to range, caliber or method. Honestly I can care less. I'm not ever going to be shooting at any animal at 1000 yards with a pistol.
 It seems some hunters have a little bit of PETA rub off on them and raise animals on a pedestal above humans. To make any animal suffer would be cruel. Yet this fellow posted up a video where the animal crashed in the normal time frame, so no undue suffering. Folks still bust his chops on it. I can guarantee over the years everyone here has had a big game animal that lasted longer than it took for that one to expire. So in other words there is no merit to the range being unethical if the animal doesn't suffer an extended period of time before it expires.

And on the topic of elevating animals; until recently iron sights were the standard issue for our military. And a varmint caliber is the standard issue for the majority of soldiers. You can hate the enemy, regardless of their motives, they are still a human and should deserve to be put down cleaner than an animal. I am not anti-war, anti-hunting, anti-gun or anti-American, yet when it comes to common held notions of fellow hunters, sometimes I think they drink the coolaid from time to time. It is good to have respect for an animal so that folks don't go around needlessly harming or killing them. But to think of them greater than a person is absurd in my rationalization. I rationalize in a simple fashion. If they are doing things legally they are hunting. If illegally they are poaching. If legal and the animal goes down quickly and cleanly they are being ethical. There are quite a few that mame animals every year due to inability. Those folks should be chastised more than the ones that do it in an unorthodoxed fashion but put them down quickly and cleanly.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2011, 05:42:56 AM »
Thank you for sharing, great shot.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2011, 05:46:35 AM »
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If legal and the animal goes down quickly and cleanly they are being ethical.

 
Can't agree with that.  Ethics aren't determined by whether the shot was good or not (ethics do not equal chance or luck).  With a bullet flight time of about 1.5 seconds at that range, just one step by the animal and it would have been gut shot.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2011, 05:51:54 AM »
Could have, but was not. At 10 paces a hunter can make an unethical shot.
A lot of things could happen, a wind gust, a twig in the flight path. A bird flies in between the shooter and the animal. The thing is it was a clean kill. Sure there is a greater chance for error as range increases, but it did not happen so I can't see the point of what could have been?
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2011, 01:12:36 PM »
simple answer is if you dont like it dont do it. Just dont tell me what to do. theres enough of that allready in the world.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2011, 02:15:58 PM »
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simple answer is if you dont like it dont do it. Just dont tell me what to do.

 
Didn't see anyone tell him not to do it, but by same token, don't tell me what I can or cannot say.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2011, 05:38:21 PM »
simple answer is if you dont like it dont do it. Just dont tell me what to do. theres enough of that allready in the world.

It is that simple.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2011, 03:08:05 AM »
dont remember me telling you that you couldnt say anything??? Just keep in mind that when you do i sure have a right to disagree just as you did.
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Didn't see anyone tell him not to do it, but by same token, don't tell me what I can or cannot say.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2011, 04:37:10 AM »
Could have, but was not. At 10 paces a hunter can make an unethical shot.
A lot of things could happen, a wind gust, a twig in the flight path. A bird flies in between the shooter and the animal. The thing is it was a clean kill. Sure there is a greater chance for error as range increases, but it did not happen so I can't see the point of what could have been?
If those things could happen at 10 paces.  how would the odds change at 1000 paces?
I could make a head shot on a deer at 100yds with my 22, but what if it misses the brain and breaks his jaw?  he'll suffer a slow miserable death.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2011, 05:24:56 AM »
In 1850 that shot would have been impossible. Technology has changed and caught up with the shot. The man used that technology and practice. Good shot!!

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2011, 06:36:54 AM »
why is it anyones (censored word) bussiness how he is hunting. The way a guy hunts is his own bussiness as long as its legal. Id say it takes as much skill to shoot an animal like he did as it does to hunt one anyway i could dream up. Trying to impress your idea of ethics on a fourm like this does nothing but draw out the antis who love nothing more to see us hunters arguing amonst ourselves and no matter how you do it the antis will find a way to say its not humane. After all no matter how you hunt your are taking the life of a living thing.  Who are you to decide whats the right way and whats not?

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2011, 06:38:21 AM »
Could have, but was not. At 10 paces a hunter can make an unethical shot.
A lot of things could happen, a wind gust, a twig in the flight path. A bird flies in between the shooter and the animal. The thing is it was a clean kill. Sure there is a greater chance for error as range increases, but it did not happen so I can't see the point of what could have been?
If those things could happen at 10 paces.  how would the odds change at 1000 paces?
I could make a head shot on a deer at 100yds with my 22, but what if it misses the brain and breaks his jaw?  he'll suffer a slow miserable death.

Shooting a deer with a 22 is what is unethical, not the distance.

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2011, 06:59:37 AM »
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Shooting a deer with a 22 is what is unethical, not the distance.
        No, either has a great chance of resulting in a wounded, but not dead animal.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2011, 09:47:08 AM »
uh rodent, I never said I shot a deer with a 22.  and no, I am not an armchair hunter.  I've been hunting for well over 60 years.  my longest  shot on a deer was 50 yds and I could have easily killed every one with a 22 to the brain.  my choice is about the same as the ops.  when it comes to energy delivered and shot placement I see no difference.

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2011, 10:10:10 AM »
If I remember correctly a 160gr. 308 cal. at 2700fps muzzle velocity, shooting 600yds with a steady 10mph side wind, (when is the wind ever steady) will change impact 6ft. (if not exactly correct, darn close)  Whether or not anyone agrees with the OP's taking the shot   (by who's standards) that is one heck of a shot. For the naysayers, what do you consider an "ethical" distance??? I always considered it to be at whatever distance I could hit the point I was aiming at. So by those parameters the shot was "ethical", cuz thats what he did..

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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2011, 10:17:52 AM »
painted horse, good post.    I want to say I never belittled the op for his shot, he is apparently a very good shot.  he likes'em way out there,  I like'em in my lap.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2011, 10:39:11 AM »
sure glad our miltary snipers dont have to worry about ethics. they make shots like this all the time. Suprising the geneva convention allows it  :o
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2011, 11:28:54 AM »
Am I the only one who wants to know how many unsuccesfull attempts he has made on animals at these ultra long ranges? I also wonder how many wounded unrecovered animals resulted?
If the answer to the first is more than two or three he should rethink his priorities. If the answer to the second is more than zero he should definately rethink his priorities.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2011, 02:01:24 PM »
Am I the only one who wants to know how many unsuccesfull attempts he has made on animals at these ultra long ranges? I also wonder how many wounded unrecovered animals resulted?
If the answer to the first is more than two or three he should rethink his priorities. If the answer to the second is more than zero he should definately rethink his priorities.
Just my .02
lol, my face is red.  that is a very good question.
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Re: 926 yard handgun antelope kill (video)
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2011, 02:54:52 PM »
Another question why did he shoot at the two standing together?Bigger target? Trying to get two with one shot.Did he get the one he was aiming at or not?Just wondering