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« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2006, 06:35:45 AM »
sigh...ok but i wont accept your collect calls from the federal prison so dont try! :lol:
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« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2006, 07:07:11 AM »
NONYA- would that be the same federal prison they mentioned in Office Space?

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« Reply #62 on: April 02, 2006, 06:38:24 AM »
Possible scenarios if some fool shoots one.
Scenario A
1.  Bigfoot normally hang out in clans of 2 to 10.
2.  Bigfoot can call for help telepathically
3.  Fool with gun will not be given time to reload
4.  Fool's gun will be found twisted into a pretzel
5.  Some of Fool's body parts will be found strewn around a large area.
6.  Fool's death will be written off as a bear attack, even though the area was covered with Bigfoot tracks.

Scenario B
1.  Bigfoot can weigh a thousand pounds
2.  While fool is sitting on body, trying to figure out what to do, fool suddenly disappears into thin air as he is spirited to a place from which there is no escape.
3.  Fool will be listed as lost and never found

Scenario C
1.  Fool somehow shoots a bigfoot
2.  Fool somehow gets Bigfoot body into back of truck
3.  Fool some how gets back to civilization with body
4.  Fool drives to TV station to become famous
5.  TV station films Fool with dead body
6.  TV station checks with DFish and Wildlife.
7.  Dept fish and wildlife checks with FBI
8.  MIB arrives at TV station and confiscates tape
9.  MIB arrives at fool's house to confiscate body but Fool hid body in a cold storage facility.
10. MIB figures out which facility from phone tap they had on the Fool and confiscates body.
11.  MIB threatens the fool that he should never talk about either the body or them being there.
12.  Fool retells the story and is judged to be a liar since he cannot produce any film or any body.
13.  Fool dies a lonely man and poor man.

MIB = Men in black, most likely from the national security agency, just like the movie.

Any questions?

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« Reply #63 on: April 02, 2006, 06:42:13 AM »
scenario D: someone checks themselves into a state run hospital and is diagnosed as dilousional and recieves the treatment he so desperatly needs. :eek:
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« Reply #64 on: April 02, 2006, 07:42:41 AM »
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1 legit photograph or piece of video would be enough for me to consider it,I have been to your BF sites and the discusion of money comes up EVERY time they talk about getting a body and you know it,ask around see how many of your "experts" would be willing to donate the body to science if they got one...LOL...none of em. :roll:



NONYA, it depends on what portion of the research community you talk to.  I agree there are many that hold the Pro-Kill view, that are intested in what money there might be.  Personally, I am against killing a bigfoot as a way to harvest a specimen for scientific study.  I think there is so much more we can learn by non-invasive observation, then by simply disecting one.  If a body did become available, through accidental means, or natural death, and I had access to it, I would have no problem donating it to science for study.  I know of many more that hold this view, than the one you are proposing in your post.

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« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2006, 09:01:15 AM »
Bigfoot do not need to be killed, to be proven to exist.  Furthermore, Bigfoot proof is readily available.  Since Bigfoot are likely people, and are quite similar to us, but for that little pesky interdimensionality thing, they are likely to be classified in the genus "homo" at sometime in the future.  Consequently, murder no longer has an excuse or can be justified.
Some researcher at this address, doesn't seem to have a problem in providing proof.   www.bigfootondemand.com

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« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2006, 12:31:46 PM »
In case that link don't work you can also reach them at www.hoaxesareus.com


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« Reply #67 on: April 02, 2006, 03:08:51 PM »
Sorry white eagle, as I explained a large caliber rifle and or heavi-shot can trancend the time space continuim and can bust them in their home dimension.
As for 2-10 animals, which is what they are, animals. Heck, I carry enough ammo to wack & stack twice that many. Stack em up like cordwood, regular price 2 bucks, 2 bucks.
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« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2006, 03:34:13 AM »
You guy`s dont have to worry about killing one. The Bigfoot is way smarter than the people hunting them. Look at it this way---Bigfoot`s been around for a long time. Not one has been harvested yet. Even during legal hunting season when there are hundreds of thousands of hunter`s across the U.S.A., has anyone ever shot one. Oh, yeah there`s those that have claimed that they shot one, :roll:  well where`s the body then?

Edited by Graybeard. You were told to give it a rest. That applies here as well. One more personal dig ends it.

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« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2006, 05:06:20 AM »
We must not forget to count the hunters who either shot at one or actually killed one, and are no longer on this earth as we know it, to stake a claim that they did.  That number could potentially be roughly equal to the number of hunters that go missing each year.
But I must not forget to tell the true story of a Quinault N.A. who who claims to have shot one in his youth.  Shortly after returning home from his hunting trip, which was not far from the incident, he became inexplicably ill.  His health deteriorated quite quickly, to the point where the doctor gave him only a few days, if not hours to live.  Whereupon, they carried that Native American to the site of the shooting, and performed an ancient tribe ritual whereupon he asked for forgiveness from the Bigfoot.  Only then was he able to recover and is still alive today.

From personal experience, it takes only two or three days for the Bigfoot to find out where you live and come inside your home, in one form or another.  And that involves a difference between home and most recent research site of about 90 road miles.  So they likely WILL find you and if you did harm to them, you will likely pay DEARLY.  All in my opinion of course.

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« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2006, 05:37:11 AM »
Scenario D: is still an option PLEASE seek help! :)  :eek:  :)
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« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2006, 06:20:37 AM »
Nonya,  Please do not speak out loud to yourself on this board.  People may begin to think that you are nuts.  They may not all fully understand your unusual method of self diagnosis and self medication. :)  :)  :)  :wink:

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« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2006, 07:39:52 AM »
No No eagle see i exist on an alternate plane where people never get sick,mentally or physicaly,this is also the plane where we communicate with aliens and wait for the mothership to come pick up the chosen people. :wink:
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« Reply #73 on: April 03, 2006, 08:56:47 AM »
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You guy`s dont have to worry about killing one. The Bigfoot is way smarter than the people hunting them. Look at it this way---Bigfoot`s been around for a long time. Not one has been harvested yet. Even during legal hunting season when there are hundreds of thousands of hunter`s across the U.S.A., has anyone ever shot one. Oh, yeah there`s those that have claimed that they shot one, :roll:  well where`s the body then?

Edited by Graybeard. You were told to give it a rest. That applies here as well. One more personal dig ends it.

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there was no personal digs, on this at all, I have sent you a P.M. ---- the rest of the story you deleted had to do with what usually happens, and did not cast anyone or person or anything at all.--it is a senario, that usually happens.

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« Reply #74 on: April 03, 2006, 08:59:30 AM »
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Nonya,  Please do not speak out loud to yourself on this board.  People may begin to think that you are nuts.  They may not all fully understand your unusual method of self diagnosis and self medication. :)  :)  :)  :wink:


Hey whiteagle, there`s a thought police on this board, that knows what you are saying and even knows what your writing about, so becareful no to awaken them also.

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« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2006, 09:17:05 AM »
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In case that link don't work you can also reach them at www.hoaxesareus.com


Actually, I understand that the methods employed at www.bigfootondemand.com   are similar to those employed by Kathy Strain of the AIBR.  The difference is that KS is looking for a F&B bigfoot, whereas bigfootondemand is listening for multiple paranormal bipeds varying from 12 inches tall to the really big ones.  Apparently, bigfootondemand has captured close range high resolution stills of eyeshine from those paranormals that tends to provide strong circumstantial evidence for, 1. at least one parallel dimension 2. invisible entities with two eyes, and 3. miniature invisible entities with two eyes that made noise as if they had only two feet when they beat it out of there after the flash went off.

So you get to read about it in a magazine sometime this year, and it will not be the skeptical inquirer, the inquirer, the star or any other supermarket rag.

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« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2006, 09:21:27 AM »
High res eye shines?LOL !!!!!!What do eye shines prove?NOTHING,I can go out in my yard with my flash turned :roll:  on and get you some high res eye shines,cats,rabbits,coons,yotes.....
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« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2006, 10:28:04 AM »
Nonya,  The difference is that your picture will have a small two dimensional surface area of a reflective front eye pupil with no three dimensional detail to the eye that only an full surgical detachment would reveal, and you would see a cat, rabbit, coon or coyote attached to the small reflective eye surface.

The close range paranormal eyeshine picture would shows multiple three dimensional forms that appear to be a eyes, as if there was neither a skull nor body attached.  It is, dare I say it, out of this world.

The world's closest paranormal eyeshine photo, that tends to prove that creatures exist in PARALLEL DIMENSIONS.

Big difference.

Seen any more of those lately.  Maybe you can pick one up on EBAY for 50 cents?  And then again, maybe not.

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« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2006, 11:12:59 AM »
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Hey whiteagle, there`s a thought police on this board, that knows what you are saying and even knows what your writing about, so becareful no to awaken them also.


I'm getting real tired of your "thought police" line. If you dislike this site so much feel free to depart it. I care not about your thoughts, it's your childish actions I'm tired of. Think what you will but act like an adult if you wish to play here.

Whiteeagle you do realize we cannot possibly take these outlandish things of which you write as serious don't you? Those sites you linked to that I visited are such obvious hoaxes I can't even imagine how they find folks foolish enough to send in the money they rake in. But as PT Barnum said there's one more every minute. I guess he's right. We might have been born at night.....But it wasn't LAST NIGHT.


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« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2006, 12:47:44 PM »
Graybeard,
I am curious as to exactly why you believe the listed site is an obvious hoax.  Please list the reasons.  Also, please list the results of your personal research that would prove that the site listed is an obvious hoax.  There are other sites that agree with the site listed.  Those sites are the results of serious field research, that occurs outside the box of what is considered to be acceptable thinking.  Acceptable thinking is currently going nowhere fast.  Paranormal research is the only avenue that is currently discovering what our government learned a long time ago.  And was common knowledge in the early 70's in the state of Oregon.

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« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2006, 04:31:38 PM »
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Graybeard,
I am curious as to exactly why you believe the listed site is an obvious hoax.  Please list the reasons.  .


I will jump in a little on this subject.
It is common knowledge among most people who are into Bigfoot that the links listed on that site are lets say people who believe that Bigfoot is some sort of supernatural thing. In other words they thing they can shape shift/warp to different places and many other way out there things. I am not going to go into how I personally feel about them (Well ok I think they are nuts) But they have a very bad reputation with most of the Bigfoot community. They have a small group of people who are 100% behind them that may add up to about 10% of the Bigfoot community.
These are the sort of people who see Bigfoot in every picture with trees in it. Just go to them links and check them out they see things where nothing at all is.
I could take any and I many any picture of woods and draw a bunch of circles like they do and say each one of them are a Bigfoot. Any serious Bigfoot person makes sure to stay away from them people as they do not want to be known as nuts them selfs. The sad thing is so many people see them online and on TV (some serious Bigfoot people have refused to do shows with them people) and they do nothing but give anyone who believes in Bigfoot a bad name.
Every time I talk to a new person about this subject they quote one of these nuts on something and ask how can I believe in that. Even on these forums and others I have seen new or none believers quote these people and say how can anyone believe in this stuff. The best thing that could happen to the Bigfoot community is if them people found some new subject to mess with.

If you do not believe what I have been saying here go to say the http://www.bigfootforums.com/
And ask around about these people or them sites. You will be told real fast about the same things I have said above. Them people are jokes in the Bigfoot community.

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« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2006, 05:23:54 PM »
I agree with micahn on this one, but he forgot to mention they sometimes appear on talk radio shows too.  It doesn't take long to figure out who someone has been listening to, reading, or watching once they start delving into the supernatural/paranormal existence of bigfoot.  Their responses to questions appear almost cookie cutter style, or canned created by whomever developed the original theory of why bigfoot is supernatural/parnormal that they've embraced.  Rule out all of the logical possibilites, before grasping for the paranormal.  A good amount of people never do that, they simply jump on the paranormal wagon, because using that as a reason, they can mold their answer anyway they want to make it fit.  Who can prove them wrong?  

Just for an example of ruling out all logical causes for something called paranormal.  I worked at a mental health facility, and before I was working there they had a client, who was autistic.  This autistic person loved to sit on a bench at the end of the hallway, and play with aluminum cans.  He'd squeeze them and roll them in his hands to make that crinkling sound.  He'd do that for hour after hour after hour.  People that worked there got use to hearing that noise, and when they heard it, they would say there's so and so playing with the cans again.  Eventually this client died, and soon afterwards some of the employees started to say they could hear him still at the end of the hallway playing with those cans.  It freaked a few of them out so bad, I guess they half expected his ghost to materialize in front of them and scream BOO, that they quit.  When I came to that facility, I heard the stories, and talked to a few who claimed to have witness it, and yes, to them too it sounded just like him sitting at the end of the hallway playing with the cans.

A few weeks later, I was working the nightshift alone, and after putting the other clients to bed, I was sitting at the table and heard the clink-clink-clink sound everyone had described.  So of course, I got up and peered down the darkened hallway to see if I could see anything.  No ghost popped out, no glimmering sheen of ectoplasm, nothing, but the sound continued, for a good ten minutes then it abruptly stopped.  One of the clients were on a med schedule, and few hours later I had to go to their room and give them some medication.  I did, and after returning to the table, I began to hear the clink-clink-clink sound again.  

I sat there for a moment and thought what had I done this time, that was just like what I had done before, and focused on that as a possible clue of what was making the sound.  Then it dawned on me, both times I had turned off the hallway lights.  The first time they had been on for a few hours, and the last time for only a few minutes, but it was a short time after I turned off the lights, was when the sound started.  I turned on the lights again, and studied them.  They were recessed into the ceiling, and had aluminum reflectors around the stem of the floodlight type bulbs.  What was happening was the heat from the bulbs were heating up those aluminum reflectors.  After turning them off, they started to cool down, and the aluminum would start to warp as it cooled.  That's what was causing the clink-clink-clink sound and they were aluminum, just like the cans.  Nothing paranormal, no ghosts, just a simple explaination for a weird experience.

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« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2006, 05:25:43 PM »
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I am not going to go into how I personally feel about them (Well ok I think they are nuts)


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Them people are jokes in the Bigfoot community.


Yup I agree 100% on both counts.


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« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2006, 05:31:04 PM »
LOL they take away any credability those guys have earned through thier work,they seem to be willing to believe anying they hear and cling to an idea like its thier path to redemption,wierd. :roll:
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« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2006, 06:26:09 PM »
And I thought the only ones who could change their appearance & dimension were lawyers and politicians!  :wink:
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« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2006, 08:34:41 PM »
I completely disagree with Micahn's portrayal of the references.  He is flat out wrong.  He specifically was describing Eric Beckyard.  None of the sites referenced at www.bigfootondemand.com  have listed any of his sites.  Furthermore, Mary Green is not a paranormal believer.  Joan Ocean is.  Lapseritis is.  Neither of them see faces in any treeline.  Nor do I.  The problem is that Bigfoot is beyond the comprehension of most US Citizens.  Canada is aware of their paranormal nature.  The Indians are aware of their spirit relationship.  Lawrence Livermore National Labs is certainly aware of their paranormal nature.  It is written in at least three accepted bigfoot books.  Even Jimmy Carter admitted on TV.  Stephen Hawkings had admitted publicly hundreds, if not thousands of times.  Most people cannot research Bigfoot because they do not have the means to call them in.  Furthermore, they do not have the desire to have the means to call them in.  If they did, they would already have that means.  So they are not interested in studying them up close.  Consequently, they will likely never ever learn their true nature.

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« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2006, 10:32:49 PM »
Ummmm Jimmy Carter and Stephen Hawkings admitted on TV that Bigfoot is paranormal?  Do you have a link to that information?  I've never heard of it and, seriously doubt that Stephen Hawkings would ever say something to that effect.

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« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2006, 05:39:37 AM »
Uummm, Wisill.
See if you can pry it our of the national news archives yourself.  That would be Jan. 21 or 22 of 1981, the day after Jimmy Carter left office.  As far a Stephen Hawkings, you are just going to have to catch him, next time that he is in your city, on his next world book selling tour.  He was at UC Berkeley in 1975, and apparantly had full access to the Lawrence Livermore National Lab/Bigfoot captivity study that was most likely conducted in the 60's.  The reason being is that he gave impromptu bigfoot lectures all over campus, and he explained a few things beyond them just being paranormal.  Stephen Hawkings, being possibly the smartest human, is certainly not stupid enough to put anything about bigfoot in print, due to all the naysayers and persons otherwise living in denial.

Reply to another comment,  bigfootforums.com is possibly the most biased bigfoot website on the planet, due to the fact that they kick out anybody and everybody who mentions anything about any paranormal aspects of bigfoot or about orbs.  So referring someone to that site to get a second opinion as to what is the correct thinking in bigfoot research, IS COMPLETELY ABSURD IN THE EXTREME.  That site practices "lowest common denominator thinking" so as not to get the underwear in a wad, of the self appointed experts who do not have the ability to make unbiased field observations.  Those people do not feel comfortable in being out in the forest unless they can kill with a gun, everything else that is out there.  Once you introduce the possibility that not only is that not  the case, but that what they can't kill is bigger, stronger and faster than them, they go psychotic.  So, they shoot the messenger, so they can continue with there heads buried in the sand, and search in vane for a flesh and blood animal.  When all along, they could better spend their precious time by searching for paranormal people, that are smarter, more elusive, and have a greater longevity than them.

What is the correct thinking?  When the International Bigfoot Society has there campout every year, the current split is about 75/25 of paranormalists to flesh and blooders.  Does that give anybody an idea as to the mind games of mind control, that are currently being played out in most internet chat rooms?  Paranormalists get kicked out of almost every chat room not because they are wrong, but because the moderators do not support and do not want to allow that bigfoot aspect to become known.

And nobody can study bigfoot without also reading extensively the books that cover paranormalism.  Otherwise, they cannot make unbiased field observations, because all of there reasoning and excuses for why they cannot see what is making all that racket, will be because the bigfoot stood just too far into the forest or stand behind a tree, or throw sound, or this or that.  That is basic BS field research.  Yet that is the norm and that is what is considered to be acceptable conclusions.  I doubt that bigfoot can throw sound.  Every sound is likely caused by an different individual.  We just cannot see them, because they primarily exist in parallel dimensions.  Has anybody bothered to ask themselves, that if parallel dimensions do not exist, then why would science formulate that description?  It is not just a science fiction movie phrase.  Google it and you will find out.  Mainstream science is just not willing to admit that the bigfoot is just one of the examples of an existence in parallel dimensions.  Why? Because they are not stupid enough to admit it.

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« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2006, 05:47:19 AM »
Well unlike what you say about the Bigfoot Forums I will allow you to post it here White eagle but just don't expect me to take you seriously about it. Now if you could entice Matt here he likely would as he is a believer in much paranormal stuff but not me.


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« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2006, 08:16:08 AM »
Whiteagle you should have been a writer for the X files before people got tired of that whacko stuff,I think the only thing existing on a different plane is your sanity! :roll:
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