I've lately decided to break down, and finally get me a side by side shotgun. Been wanting one for a long time. Living on a cop's salary means before a new gun can come in, an old one has to go...so I sold my 20 guage Remington pump, and my 12 guage Mossberg 835 pump. Before I found this forum, I'd already made up my mind to get a Remington Spartan (12 guage). I'd seen one at my local gunshop, and they didn't look like that bad a gun..for the money. Then I found this place, and found you weren't shy about what you liked and didn't like, so I started looking at the CZ's. I was in my gunshop again today, looking over that Remington again. Before I left, a nice looking side by side they kept behind the counter caught my eye..you guessed it..it was a CZ Bobwhite. You are right, Graybeard, with that CZ you get a lot nicer looking gun for just a little more money. Let's face it, one of the big reasons for owning a side by side is they're so pleasing to look at, so if you're going to get one, get a nice looking one. I have a question for you. I looked at the CZ sight, and they give the weight in Metric. Do you know how much the 12 guage Bobwhite weighs in good old US of A pounds? Thanks..alan