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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2006, 09:30:43 PM »
7mm-08 & 30.06 : Deer
338 win mag:  Bear
375 or 416:  African
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2006, 03:57:27 PM »
That is so easy for me, the question that is:
Antelope --- 7x57mm
Mule Deer and Whitetail Deer --- 7x57mm
Elk --- 7x57mm

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Re: MAGNUMS NOT NEEDED
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2006, 02:41:55 AM »
Quote from: razmuz
When I see a nimrod at the 7-11 in a high rise pickup wearing camouflage I know he shoots a magnum.  In these United States there in no rational for magnums.  For the far away stuff a 25-06 will get the job done.  For every thing else a 6.5X55 is the ticket.


Yep, and when you see a dude in a pair of brown leather boots, jeans, and an old tweed jacket, or just a grey t-shirt, driving a Volkswagen Golf diesel, you wouldn't even think that he hunts with a .308. Deer, antelope, elk, boar, and bears don't seem to complain.

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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2006, 01:51:15 PM »
270 winchester for everything except the the bear. For the bear 45-70 marlin and some really heavy loads.

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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2006, 01:53:03 PM »
270 winchester for everything except the the bear. For the bear 45-70 marlin and some really heavy loads.

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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2006, 02:12:00 PM »
270 winchester for everything except the the bear. For the bear 45-70 marlin and some really heavy loads.

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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2006, 02:15:30 PM »
Sorry for the duplicate posts, having some problems with my computer.
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2006, 02:40:32 PM »
the 7mm-08 is now my favorite for anything in southeast
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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2006, 12:05:26 AM »
30-06,7mag,8mag,300wm :wink:
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2006, 11:27:36 AM »
From my experience

25-06 Antelope and  deer Mule and white tail

338-06 for Elk and the bears

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2006, 01:25:08 PM »
A man can end a lot of heartbeats with a 25-06/30-06 battery and not feel slighted doing it.  Said arms and cheap componetry abound.


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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2006, 02:31:55 PM »
22 bolt action LR
12 ga pump 3" mag
3006 or 308
If you have to hunt what can't be taken with a 3006 add
416 Rem or 458 Win

22 is just a good all round small game gun with ammo available ANYWHERE!
12 ga Pump is for the feathered friends and close support for defense ammo is everywhere
308 / 3006 will kill all but the most dangerous game with a wide margin for error - ammo is readily available
the magnums are for Grizzly and polar bears, rhinos and rogue semi tractors. I wouod have said 50 BMG but it is darn hard to find ammo for it and the magnums are hard enough to find ammo for. On the good side you don't shoot them much so a little ammo will last a while.
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« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2006, 03:28:49 PM »
Here are the three rounds that I feel will do it all, anywhere in the world.

.223- varmints, small game, self-defense

30-06- 'nuff said

375 H&H time honored big game round for anything from bears, to big plains game up to and including elephants.

I know that they are ho-hum, but they all have proven themselves for many years.

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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2006, 12:06:17 AM »
I prefer the middle speed 6.5s. The 6.5x55, 6.5x57, or .260. I like them over their slower counterparts because their range suits my hunting. I don't pick on critters that are armed with lots of knives, but plenty have been killed with the 6.5x55 particularly. The 7x57 is also a great all around cartridge.  :D
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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2006, 08:34:10 AM »
For all around, though I mainly use an -06, I would choose a .300 RUM, because it has enough power for the biggest bears, and has the range to take on game such as sheep, goats, and some easily spooked open lands game.
Without special situations such as very large game and huge long rage, its the .30-06
Other than that:
.22lr - small game
.30-06 - varmits, coyotes (-06 accelerators) small deer up to black bears
.300 RUM - goats, sheep, brown bears
.458 lottt - african game
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« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2006, 12:44:43 AM »
338 win mag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It's that simple
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Re: The best hunting cartridges
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2006, 05:25:30 AM »
Well everyone should have a small game / plinking rifle to keep their skills current.  The 22 LR would seem like a good choice, but I pretty much refuse to shoot anything I haven't reloaded myself unless of course it is a free offer from one of my buddies at the range.  After looking long and hard at the whole list of 22 Centerfires my first choice is the 225 Winchester.  The ballistic performance of the 225 Winchester is similar to the 224 Weatherby Magnum and is superior to the 223 family of cartridges based on the 0.378 head size rimless case.  The 22-250 and the 220 Swift will out run it but not by a whole bunch and the 225 Winchester is easier to load for as light loads aren't as problematic.

A light game, deer, antelope, etc., rifle would be next on the list.  My favorite caliber for this usage is the 260 Remington!  The preferred bullet weight in the 6.5mm's is the 160 grain.  This is the bullet weight that established the global reputation of the 6.5x54mm MS.  From W.D. Bell’s brain shots on Elephant to numerous other outstanding feats on Lion and Leopard.  There is something about having a sectional density of 0.328 that makes that slug penetrate all the way through every time.

I could write a long novel on the why's and wherefore's of why I don't like the 270, but prefer to use precious typing on items that I can say good things about.  Let's just say that the combination of a chopped Ruger #1 (21" barrel) and a Leopold VX-II 2x7 left a real bad taste.  Extremely loud, surprisingly heavy recoil and optics that force your face down on the stock all combined to be annoying.  The only thing I have against the 7mm's and the 30's is that everyone has at least one.  That alone is good enough to talk me out of it.

Now once we get on the good side of 30 caliber; we have the grand old 8x57mm Mauser.  Which keeps up with the 30-06 while using less powder.  The continuation of that idea, opening up the bore and shortening the case for improved efficiency, ends up with the 358 Winchester.  It is quite easy to drive a 250 grain bullet at 2350 fps in the 20 inch tube of the Browning Lever Action (BLR) the only current factory rifle in 358 Winchester.  This generates over 3,000 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and keeps up with the 30-06 with equal weight bullets in terms of velocity, energy, and trajectory.  With the 180, 200, and 225 grain bullets the little 358 Winchester is a ballistic twin of the 30-06.  Then when big bullets are needed the 358 Winchester keeps on going when the 30-06 runs out of steam.  The 358 Winchester drives the 225 grain Barnes Triple-X bullet at 2,475 fps which equals what the 30-06 can do with the 220 grain slugs.  The 358 Win sends the 250 grain Nosler out at 2,350 fps which is almost the velocity that made the 416 Rigby famous.  The 358 Winchester can also send the 280 grain Swift A-Frame out at 2,220 fps which is the velocity that made the 160 grain bullet so famous in the 6.5x54mm MS and the sectional density is almost as high at 0.312.  If all that isn’t enough, the 358 Winchester can also drive the 310 grain Woodleigh at 2,110 fps which equals the velocity of the 458 Winchester Magnum with the 500 grain bullets.  Putting the icing on the cake the 310 grain Woodleigh bullet has a sectional density of 0.345 surpassing the famous for penetration 160 grain 6.5mm bullet by 5.4%.

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« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2006, 07:34:47 AM »
I was in a bind about 6 years ago, as a newly married SPC in the Army.  I was stationed in WA, and they had a deal for 70 bucks you got a deer tag, elk tag, bear tag and mountain lion.  I bought a 300 win mag ruger for that season, and then came up on orders for Fort Knox KY.  Well new rifle in hand, it became myh whitetail rifle...  Overkill, maybe but bothe deer I shot there died, and I got confidence in that rifle.  Now it is my go everywhere do everything rifle....  som ,my all around hunting vote is for the 300 Win Mag
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« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2006, 09:51:01 AM »
hand loaded 35 whelen 225 gn. bullet @ 2800 + fps.for big stuff including bars. 257 weatherby. roy weatherby killed a cape bufflalo with his 257. remington is making the 35 whelen in their auto. what could take two or three fast rounds from that and keep on ticking?

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« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2006, 01:25:49 PM »
A 270 win...some 140gr partitions...and a sharp knife... 8)


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« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2006, 01:41:33 PM »
.....I presently use a 25-06 or .243 for pronghorn, a .270 Winchester for deer and a 30-06 for elk. I handload for all of them. I have no desire to hunt the big bears but if I did go I'd want something with more authority than my '06. What would you pick?

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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2006, 07:26:19 AM »
RaySendero is right. In truth, the best cartridge is one that use's a bullet designed for the game in question, from a rifle you like and shoot well enough to properly place the bullet. Wow! How many different choices are there.

That said I could change my mind again:
        280 Rem king of the all around cartridge's!

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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2006, 08:52:53 AM »
Hi fatercat:

   I'm also drooling over the Remington 750 Carbine in 35 Whelen.  As you put it what could take 2 or 3 well placed hits in rapid fire from a 35 Whelen???  If big bears were in the plan I'd much rather hit them with either the 310 gr. Woodleigh or the 280 gr. Swift.!!!  When really deep penetration is required i.e. stem to stern with an exit wound, keeping the Sectional Density over 0.300 really helps.  The 280 gr. Swift has a SD of 0.312, and the 310 gr. Woodleigh has a SD of 0.346

   Of course another possible solution would be the Browning Auto Rifle (BAR) in 338 Win. Mag.  The 300 grain Woodleigh in 0.338 bore has a SD of 0.375 !!  As long as the muzzle velocity is held down to 2,400 fps or less that should penetrate practically forever.

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« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2006, 11:30:22 AM »
I own a hmr for small stuff a 223 for the med stuff and a 7mm 08 for the big stuff. That said we don't have bears here we do have thar and big deer thar are very tough animals. I could have bought a 30'06 or 7mm mag but on reflection I just wanted something that shot well without too much kick in a light short barreled rifle. When I looked into the balistics of the various calibres there is really not much difference between them. Hell an old 303 will do the job for you after all many thousands of animals have fallen to it. Still calibre choice is probably the most popular argument that hunters have. ;D

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« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2006, 11:43:04 AM »
Pronghorn antelope -  .25/06, .270, 7mm-08, 7x57, 30/06

Mule and whitetail deer - 25/06, .270, 7mm-08, 7x57, 30/06

Elk - 30/06, 7mm Mag, .338 Winchester Magnum

Big Bears - .338 Win Mag, .375 H&H Mag

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« Reply #55 on: September 10, 2006, 01:28:55 AM »
.....280 Rem king of the all around cartridge's!......

270 Win!!!!!
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« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2006, 06:32:28 AM »
Pronghorn antelope - Don't hunt them but if I did I'd use my 280 Rem. or if I wanted to buy a new rifle I'd get a 25-06 rem.

Mule and whitetail deer - I don't hunt mule deer. I do hunt whitetail deer. I'd never be able to use just one rifle for deer hunting. Anyone that watch the Bucky Phillips saga saw first hand what the terrain in New York State looks like......that's how it is in most on the state. Sure there are some open flat area's but for the most part New York State is deep dense, thick woods and a lot of hills. If it wasn't for our retarded liberal leaders (or lack there of) New York State would be a paradise. Having said that as much as I love my 280 Rem. most of the time my Marlin 336 in 35 Rem is more then enough. So a nice quick handling carbine type of rifle and then a rifle for longer range stuff. Personally I like the 280 rem. but a 260 Rem., 7mm-08 Rem, 270 Win., 30-06 Spr., 308 Win. would work just fine. Plus a lot of the state is still "shotgun only" for deer hunting.

Elk - I'd use my 280 rem. with a good 160 gr. bullet.

Big Bears - I don't and probably never will hunt them. If I did I'd go with a 338 Win mag.
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« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2006, 07:19:53 PM »
Your all right!!!  ;D Redhawk you are becoming a diplomat or something??  ;D

I prefer a lever action for a hunting rifle. That said. I could be perfectly content hunting the rest of my days with a Browning blr in 308win. And keep in mind that I live in big bear country. Lots of big bears were killed with 30/06's before the magnum craze hit.

Of course I am a rifle luney. So I have everything from 223 to 50 alaskan. But when it comes time to go hunting I will usually be toating a 308 or a 260 or a 243 or a .......you understand. Byron
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« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2006, 12:44:05 PM »
This is fun...
                  Small game: .22LR
                  Revolver:     .44Mag
                  Vermin:       .22/250
                  Med Game:  7/08 Rem
                  Big Stuff:     45/70
                  Dangerous Stuff: 350 Chevy bored .30 over and a big Holley!