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Offline Coyote Hunter

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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2005, 03:31:23 AM »
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I don't think you'll catch me buying a Savage. I'd get a Stevens 200. … So I'd get a rifle out of the box as accurate if not more so than the high dollar or even many custom rifles. ... I won't carry a collector or show piece in the woods so I like a functional rifle I don't mind using.


What?  You’d place accurate and functional over pretty???  On a game rifle???  What are you thinking???  ;)


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I don't know if I could go as far as buy a Savage in a deer hunting calibre, but I would definitely consider it in a smaller game cartridge such as the .22 LR.  I have seen guys with the Savage 22's and have shot them myself, and they shoot just as good as the next 22 out there.


The same is true with the centerfire Savage rifles – they often shoot better than much more expensive rifles.



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What a concept, George!

That said, there are some rifles I just won’t buy, no matter the price.  One is a Remington 710.  If someone gave me one it would get traded or sold so fast it would never see the inside of my safe.  These rifles are made to be cheap and they are, well, cheaply made.  For about the same cost an “ugly” Savage or Stevens are better constructed, will shoot well and will hold their value much better.

Then there rifles I won’t buy at any price I’ve seen but would consider at much reduced prices.   A Remington 673 quickly comes to mind.  While I actually like the looks of the 673, I don’t care at all for the ventilated rib.  My luck I would fall and bend the rib.  AFAIC, it serves no useful function, as I would scope the rifle – the rib is just something waiting to get damaged and cost me a repair bill.  But hey, if I could pick one up for a couple pictures of Franklin and maybe one of Grant…
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2005, 04:05:49 PM »
I had a friend once who's wife was 5'1" about 270lbs. She wore coke bottles for glasses and had holes all over her face. He thought she was beautiful!

I don't own a Savage but believe my next one will be a Savage. The turn off for me on them was always the trigger. Seems they fixed that. By the way. Its my understanding that that nut on the barrel doesn't hold the barrel on but rather adjusts the headspace. The gunsmith I spoke to in Ohio said he thought that nut was part of the secret to Savage accuracy. He claims you can't clean up the threads in one but still those things shoot.

As for sloppy actions, I've never used a mauser that didn't flop around.
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2005, 09:57:18 AM »
I dont particularly care for the looks of the Savage or Stevens.  I have never owned one, but would consider one in a predator type caliber.  But if I were going to the range to make money on betting on shots or groups these rifles would be one of the 1st I would consider.  Just looking at them eveyone would laugh you off, but you could come home with the money :lol: .  

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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2005, 06:48:20 PM »
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I... But if I were going to the range to make money on betting on shots or groups these rifles would be one of the 1st I would consider.  Just looking at them eveyone would laugh you off, but you could come home with the money :lol: .  

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I can't tell you how many times I had people green with envy whey my cheap (Dad gave it to me so I guess technically it was 'free') Savage 110E .22-250 shot groups I could cover with a dime.  I was pretty happy, too!  Some of the guys at the range shoot some pretty high $$$ guns that couldn't come close in terms of group size.
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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2005, 07:20:03 AM »
A pretty rifle doesn't make an ugly shooter look good.  ANY tool should function properly out of the box.  I don't care if it costs $200.00 or $2000.  No tool of any sort should require tinkering to get it to function properly.  I would not hesitate to buy one of the new Savage rifles if I were shopping for a new rifle and liked the feel of the gun.  I think Savage rifles may be sleepers.  That is a quality shooter in a plain wrapper.

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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2005, 01:49:52 AM »
I went to look at one the weather warriors the other day figuring ugly plastic is ugly plastic on any rifle but I just can't past their name on the bolt face just hate that kind of thing

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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2005, 04:13:48 AM »
I have a Savage .17HMR, it shoots great right out of the box.  It has made me a better big game shooter because I practice.  I have Tikka,s and a CZ, however I would buy one of the new pretty Savages in a .270 WSM or one of the others I have all about fit and feel.  Confidence is a mighty important ingredient!!!  Also we want the youth to have good equipment to get into our sport.  I think they are great guns for young and old!!  Hey buy what you want, I would like a Dakota 10 in a .280 but I don't think unless I win the lottery I will ever see one.  Buckfever

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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2005, 04:16:56 AM »
I have a Savage .17HMR, it shoots great right out of the box.  It has made me a better big game shooter because I practice.  I have Tikka,s and a CZ, however I would buy one of the new pretty Savages in a .270 WSM or one of the others I have all about fit and feel.  Confidence is a mighty important ingredient!!!  Also we want the youth to have good equipment to get into our sport.  I think they are great guns for young and old!!  Hey buy what you want, I would like a Dakota 10 in a .280 but I don't think unless I win the lottery I will ever see one.  Buckfever

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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2005, 04:51:35 AM »
Talk about pretty, the Dakota rifle, especially the higher grades, are tough to beat.

You know it's interesting....quality generally yields better accuracy.  I think that the overall quality of Savages are below average, but their accuracy is above average.

I say this because there was an article once on various rifles, and the Dakota, with its highest price tag and best looks, had the absolute worse accuracy.  Yes, Yes, Yes, I know, it could have been the bullet weight, design, and/or load.  However, the accuracy in that particular Dakota was so bad that I just couldn't believe my eyes.

I particularly don't care about "pretty rifles" and I personally don't necessarily think that Savage rifles are ugly.  The main reason that I don't buy Savage rifles is because, in my opinion and experience, they just seem to have poor fit and finish, and, more importantly, I just can't get over that crappy bolt action.  Compare a Tikka action to a Savage, and I buy the Tikka every time.  (Then again, the Tikkas are every bit as accurate as Savages - generally speaking.).

As I said, I don't care about the Savage "nut."  However, if Savages were built with much better quality and overal fit and finish, and thus if the bolt action was held to tighter tolerances and was thus smooth, then I would buy a Savage.

Oh, I absolutely hate the Savage accu-triggers.  It sounded like a great idea, and it does work, but in all practicality, I just can't stand having essentially two triggers in one.  Just build it right the first time like Tikka.

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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2006, 05:10:30 AM »
IMHO, Savage rifles are decent looking rifles. (Exception going to the barrel nut). I have a Rem. 788 in .308win that always has and always will bring home the venison for my family. However, since my wife has announced her intention to join into the world of shooting and hunting(much to my joy :D ), I have been looking at most of the more affordable quality rifles out there. I'm just about settled on a Savage 10, in .243 for her. Seeing as she has never fired a gun before, I will probably go with a wood stock and sims/limbsaver recoil pad. I looked at the stevens and according to a local gunsmith, it really is EXACTLY like the savage with exception to stock, safety, and lack of accutrigger. Yes the stevens stock is HIDEOUS and feels just as bad, but the Savage Sythetic stock is IDENTICAL and will swap out. Plus you could probably find the synthetic savage stock for cheap from a custom work gunsmith who regularly does work on savages. That leaves the trigger and safety. The trigger is fine the way it is, but the safety seemed to be harder for my wife to actuate on/off without considerable effort. It seems like this and the reduced recoil of the wood stock make the +/- $100 more for the savage worth it for my wife, but if my ol'.308 craters I may just have to take them up on the stevens....

I just realized how much I just rambled.... hope this didnt confuse too many people.... :D
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