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Offline ABaker

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« on: September 18, 2005, 12:47:15 PM »
Hornady is now selling these.... anyone tried them?

http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=148
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 04:37:46 PM »
Abaker,

Good luck finding them!  :(   Have been hunting  them for almost 4 months Now ....  Every place I go has them on back order,  Would love to try them in my Encore!  


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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2005, 05:29:31 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2005, 01:52:12 PM »
Thanks Abaker...

I thought I had checked everywhere..
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2006, 04:50:17 PM »
I just bought 10 boxes of them for my new rifled 870 cantilever barrel.  They shoot very poorly for me so far.  I have a good scope and a steady rest but getting very poor accuracy.  I'm trying to figure out why.  I thought I'd be set for years to come by buying 10 boxes from the same lot. 
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 05:07:28 PM »
They shoot good out of my Savage.
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 01:01:01 AM »
3 of my slugs guns did not shoot them well at all, 9 to 10 inch groups.  :o
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2006, 03:18:02 AM »
my gun shot them well, 1 in to 1/12 in groups at 100 yrds but i've yet and have posted on several sites as for the terminal performance on deer how they perform. i also shot the lightfield 3 in mag and they group very close to the sst.
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2006, 03:46:26 AM »
Short of a tank (M1 Abrams), shooting at another tank (T-72), Ive never understood the need for sabots in a rifle, shotgun, or muzzle loader.  Yes, I know all the stuff the manufactures say about higher velocities and longer ranges; but didnt we resolve that years ago.  Big bullets make big holes...... 

Short of the really fast rounds that bring hydrostatic shock into the picture, why would any one want to reduce the size of a shotgun slug?  Why dont you just buy a 410 if you want little slugs......

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Re: New Slug
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2006, 04:11:28 AM »
Good point, these were given to me for a field test. the hornady looks awfal small compared to the lightfields and the ranges from the box are close. i want a big hole and pass thru for blood trail or a DRT ( dead rite there ) deer. they look good on paper but no one has responded to the terminal performance.
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2006, 07:55:06 AM »
Why use a sabot round in a shotgun?  Don't if you know your shots will be 80 yards or less. A .73 caliber slug weighing 430 grains will do the job.   Beyond 80 or so yards, I've found standard slugs to be less than (what I would call) accurate.  So I switched to sabots.  For some reason that 325 - 400 grain . 50 bullet can give very good accuracy out to 150 yards or so - or further If you can figure the drop.  Smaller & faster can be better than big & slow.

All the Hornadys I've tried didn't shoot well for me.  Like their bullets out of my muzzleloader though.

Winchester Platinmum tips or Federal sabots with the Barnes bullets - now we're talking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The deer I've killed with these two loads have sometimes managed 20 or 30 steps - but usually not that far.
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2006, 04:20:43 PM »
I just bought a new slug gun  remington 1-87 with a rifled cantilever barrel, and believe it or not it doesn't like sabot slugs but shoots touching cloverleafs at fifty yards with brenneke short field magnums. 1 1/4 ounce slug in a 2 3/4 inch hull.
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2006, 06:07:07 PM »
Gentlemen, I dont mean to "hijack" this thread; but I will point any of you who question big slugs in shotguns to my comments about Paradox guns in the thread about "10 gauge slugs".  Accuracy is a subjective thing when dealling with slugs.  With rifles its different.  If you cant cover 3 shots with a quarter with todays rifles and scopes its time for more practice. 

With a shot slugs we need to be thinking "minute of a brisket".  Slugs are ment to make big holes at ranges 100 yards or so.  They dont have the velocity to cause hydrostatic shock.  I would suggest cloverleafs on paper are nice from a bench but not real life in the field.  Shoot your gun from the position you'll be using in the field.  For most of us thats without any rest or at best from shooting sticks.  If we're honest, with that kind of shooting a group you can cover with your fist is more likely.  Thats why the Paradox was designed, and for Dangerous Game.
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2006, 01:41:00 AM »
EDELWEISS, the reason for the sabots in shotguns and muzzleloader's is for better accuracy and further distance.  If you can get a conical bullet to shoot 2 inch to 2 1/2 in groups at 200 yards like my Encore M/L will do, then come back and we can further this discussion. Also when have you seen a pumpkin ball shoot 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards or even 5 inch groups?  My slug barreled shotgun will do 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards all day long.

"They don't have the velocity to cause hydrostatic shock." 

I think you are wrong, any bullet will cause hydrostatic shock, that is one way bullets kill, even a 22 lr will case hydrostatic shock.

Also have you seen the hole a 12 gauge light field slug leaves in a deer? I have and I can stick my thumb in the entrance hole.

Maybe sabots are not for you, but millions of us think they have a place.  ;)
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Re: New Slug
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2006, 01:55:25 AM »
Even with a sabot you are shooting a 50 cal. bullet.  Which is bigger than any rifle bullet you would use to hunt deer.
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