Author Topic: GBO Handi-Haulic stock/gun thread (Read 4848 times)

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #30 on:** February 18, 2005, 05:24:30 PM »

ROFL!!! instead of Handi-Haulics put "Moos ta squirrel we cuvers it al"

Ian

Joel · « **Reply #31 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:02:41 PM »

I kinda like the medallion idea, but the stock would be a problem I think, with all the different likes/dislikes here. I would like a straight "pardner" type buttstock, preferably in fiddleback, with the mannlicher forend, for instance. A hat with that as a patch would be nice too, come to think of it.

James B · « **Reply #32 on:** February 18, 2005, 10:03:06 PM »

I would go for either but the Medallion and a cap would be fine with me. That way anyone who wants a stock could order one and those who want to inlay a stock they already have could do that. Patches for our shooting vests would be great as well.

turkeyhunter · « **Reply #33 on:** February 19, 2005, 02:31:34 AM »

Perhaps it could be asked of gunstocks, inc if they would come up with some kind of inletting fee? That way we could each order directly from them and they could custom make the stock when it is ordered. Should not be a big deal for them to take what they already have on the shelf and inlay the medalion. Or as mentioned before some of the medallions could be made available to those that are interested in just getting them. Now, with that being said, who has the extra cash laying around to order $500.00 worth of medallions in the hopes that they sell? Maybe gunstocks inc. would consider that option and be the one to handle purchasing the medallion. Seems like a minimal investment for them to make on a product that has a lot of interest.

Wild Bill 442 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 19, 2005, 03:42:28 AM »

Has anyone posted a reference to this thread in the other H&R forums? Shotguns, Rimfire, etc... We should make sure all potential interested parties see the action.

ONE HOLE 4570 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 19, 2005, 03:49:51 AM »

Grampa Mike looks great i'm in for 2 medalions with or without stocks :agree:

Deadeye47 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 19, 2005, 04:26:54 AM »

QUOTE: "Granpa Mike is on the right track,all it needs is a picture of B.M. on it and I'm sure Greybeard would want one. Digger"ROFL!!!

QUOTE: "instead of Handi-Haulics put "Moos ta squirrel we cuvers it al" Ian

I say put a picture of Wife 285 on the obverse....... :-D :-D :-D :-D That way ya could use the medalion for a Heads or tails "Toss"

GrampaMike · « **Reply #37 on:** February 19, 2005, 05:04:03 AM »

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Don't have a picture of B.M. or wife 285...

MSP Ret · « **Reply #38 on:** February 19, 2005, 05:13:50 AM »

GrandpaMike and Deadeye, your both great guys and a credit to mankind, your parents, and this site, BUT, if thats it, take me off the list....<><.... :oops:

GrampaMike · « **Reply #39 on:** February 19, 2005, 05:35:10 AM »

Everyone, Please throw out some ideas of what to have on it. Critical comments are welcome too. Need to know what parts people like and what parts people don't like. Since I am not an artist you cant hurt my feelings.

turkeyhunter · « **Reply #40 on:** February 19, 2005, 10:11:07 AM »

The original version was on target.

getom59 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 19, 2005, 10:24:40 AM »

The original is as near perfect as you can get in my opinion. The only thing I'd like to throw out there is to leave "Anonymous" out after the Handi-Holics.

Does anybody have any idea on the price range for one of these stocks?

Wild Bill 442 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 20, 2005, 07:00:13 AM »

I sense a loss of momentum. I am still pumped to see this happen. Hopefully everyone is just resting for the weekend.

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #43 on:** February 20, 2005, 09:04:50 AM »

My "H&R Limited Edition" medalian is 1.25" in diameter x unknown thickness. If all the factory badges are 1.25", we might want to stick with that size so we can stick them in factory stocks without reboring them.

eagleeye · « **Reply #44 on:** February 20, 2005, 09:26:16 AM »

Don't get your hopes up to high Wild Bill, I have seen other ideas on this forum go strong for a while and then fizzle out.
I believe it was turkey hunter that thought this was a good idea but wanted Gunstocks Inc. to finance the medallion idea and supply stocks on a make as ordered basis, I don't believe after the last fiasco with the custom stocks that they would be to interested in another proposition such as this, and even if they were do you think they would finance the medallion idea for free especially without any confirmed orders?
Gunstocks inc. has already stated they would require a 50 stock order and would require payment to be received for all 50 stocks before they would do anything, from reading the posts on this subject there is no way you're gonna get 50 of these people to agree on the same stock, same medallion, some want stocks, some don't want stocks, some want forends with the stock, some like the first medallion, some want a different medallion etc., etc.,
Looks like the only way this could possibly move forward is for someone to take the initiative and say this is the medallion that is being used and it will be with this stock and the price is this much, anyone interested make a commitment with payment.
If one of you would take the bull by the horns you will soon see how many will commit for this vs. how many are just talk.
It seems this idea is destined to be lost in the history files.

GrampaMike · « **Reply #45 on:** February 20, 2005, 01:19:07 PM »

Maybe we should find out if we can get 50 stocksets commited without the Medallion first. Or maybe 50 rifles in a agreed caliber, might be fun to see if we can get 50 to agree to one caliber.

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #46 on:** February 20, 2005, 03:47:56 PM »

I'm good for one of their Monte Carlo stocks in Walnut and their Schnabel forend. I'll also buy an extra medallion since the minimum order is 100. I like the original design Mike came up with.

I too think the project's fizzling, a lot of the support disappeared when the custom oddball chambering dream poofed.

Ian

turkeyhunter · « **Reply #47 on:** February 20, 2005, 04:11:25 PM »

My thought is this... The purchase for the medallions is going to run around $500.00. That is a pretty good amount for any one person to front and it would be a logistical nightmare to try to get pre-orders for that many custom stocks. Also, everyone has their own preference on stocks. Ian, can you pose the question to Gunstocks Inc to see if they could take their stocks and inlet our medallion to it as they are ordered? If they agree to that proposition they are not committing to a large order that never materializes. If they do agree to that then we can discuss how we can get the medallions. From a business standpoint, Gunstocks Inc may decide that $500 is a small investment to gain a potentially growing customer base. On the other hand if they are not willing to purchase the medallions but they will do the inletting on an as ordered basis then we can discuss how we as a group can purchase them.

Eagleeye, I appreciate your opinion but what good is it doing to come in to a discussion and tell everyone that it will never happen? We have only been discussing this a few days and since this is a discussion board it is bound to take some time.

If we want this to happen we need to stay focused. We are still working on the design of the medallion. GrampaMike, you are on the right track. I actually like the last design best. We can do this folks!

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #48 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:49:51 AM »

I'm still in just don't have any input yet, watching this close. Maybe we should do a poll and get input from the guys who don't post alot.

Woodbutcher · « **Reply #49 on:** February 21, 2005, 05:07:40 AM »

I'd like a medallion, the original is fine, Woodbutcher

Wild Bill 442 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 21, 2005, 05:55:55 AM »

I like this idea enough I might be willing to finance the medallions. The key is turkey hunters question. If Gunstocks will inlet for the medallion on an individual basis, a third party could acquire the medallions and distribute them to either gunstocks or to individuals. That would give easy access for guys who want medallions only, and eliminate the coordination of a group buy at gunstocks.

The only other question is for Graybeard... Is he OK with a third party having medallions made with his site name on them and selling them back to members?

My only comment on the design is that I would like to see the handiholics quote the same font size as Graybeard Outdoors.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 21, 2005, 06:59:06 AM »

I will chime in on this...the last medallion would be my choice...and would purchase 1 if under $25.00...just for the fact of owning one...now I can't speak for anyone else...but....there are a-lot of fickle guys out there...that are willing to say I'll buy one...just like they did with GunStocks Inc...then never do...so...I can understand GunStocks reluctance to even get involved with this......Having said that...whoever is going to set all of this up money wise...you best make sure you have the orders...prior to commiting to anything...this way...you will at least know approximatly how many medallions to have struck...and if there isn't enough interest...no money will be lost...Right now...I have no need for an additional stock set...it would be nice...but I just can't...and I know there are others here that would like to have one as well...so...if at least enough interest is generated for the medallion...I'll be happy...

Mac

wild willy · « **Reply #52 on:** February 21, 2005, 09:34:46 AM »

I like the idea of just the medallion that way a person could put it where he wants just have the o.d. the right size for a forster bit that way us less skilled woodworkers could do it.

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #53 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:01:22 PM »

More poop from the folk at Gunstocks. the bold in there is mine.

Hi Ian,
We can cut the inlay relief into the stock but I would suggest not installing the Medallion into the stock until after the stock has been sanded and finished, we would require a medallion sent to us so we could get an exact measurement for the tooling that will be required to cut the relief.
We would not charge any extra for the relief cut in a stock.
We have just completed a successful group purchase deal with a group that ordered some Winchester stocks and we can do the same on the handi stocks.
Here is the deal!
The requirements would be that all orders be received by us with payment within 7 days after the deal has been made, if there are 10 or more orders we would give a 10% discount off the stocks ordered, if at least 10 orders were not made there would be no discount issued, if payment was made with a credit card no card would be charged until after the 7 days were up, after the 7 day period all orders would be processed and the stocks made and shipped.
Anyone could order through the shopping cart and note in their cart that this order is for the Graybeard group purchase as we can then edit their cart to reflect the discount to their total, anyone also could order by phone.
If your group wanted more than 7 days to order that would be fine also, but there would need to be a reasonable deadline for ordering.
If you have any further questions please feel free to ask.

ED

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #54 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:05:54 PM »

Quote from: Wild Bill 442

The only other question is for Graybeard... Is he OK with a third party having medallions made with his site name on them and selling them back to members?

Note that nobody is making any money off of this, however we would be using his name. Graybeard... what ya think?

Ian

nfmMike · « **Reply #55 on:** March 04, 2005, 01:43:47 AM »

I like the idea of the original medalion, less the "Anonymous", and the "Handi-Holics" font made equal to Graybeards.

Has anyone considered switching the two? "Handi-Holics" on top and "Graybeard" below?

The suggestion of acquiring the medalions and then going after the stoks is a good one, especially since, as Gunstoks indicated, it would be better to have the stock finished before installing it (the medalion). The only obstacle would be the different stocks folks would rather have.

Personally, I would be interested enough to order two medalions. I would then go about the process of getting a stock inletted on my own if there was no way to get a bulk order of "same style" stocks.

The last obstacle is someone taking "ownership" of the ordering, recieving and subsquent dispersal of the medalions and/or stocks. Though I lack the organizational skills to do this kind of thing, I would volunteer for the medalion part if I weren't also involved in gaining employment and moving to Florida. I never know where I will be one half month to the next.

I for one, hope this idea reaches fruition.

Graybeard · « **Reply #56 on:** March 04, 2005, 02:26:13 AM »

I would NOT agree to the use of GBO in conjunction with this image:

But something like this would be fine for use of the GBO name:

I do not wish to get particularly involved in your selection of an image BUT if GBO is to be used in conjunction with it I am gonna have a wee bit of input. It must meet the standards of the site and as you know well the first one sure doesn't.

Brett · « **Reply #57 on:** March 04, 2005, 02:29:29 AM »

If I'm reading their price charts correctly a 1.5", one sided, bronze medallion would only cost $3.00 each for a minimum order of 100 pieces.

If final cost is kept to under $10 with shipping, etc. I'm in for at least one medallion.

I like the wording plain "Handi-Holics" myself, no "Anonymous" or "I'm a" attached. Otherwise it looks great.

GB owns the rights to the name Graybeard Outdoors so you had better get his permission before you go too far with this.

If our cost is only around $5 or so per medallion why don't we charge $10 and give GB the difference for allowing the use of the name and to help defray the cost of running this site.?

Brett · « **Reply #58 on:** March 04, 2005, 02:33:55 AM »

Looks like GB and I were posting at the same time and he has given the okay. :agree:

Let's get this finalized then.

Graybeard · « **Reply #59 on:** March 04, 2005, 02:56:49 AM »

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If our cost is only around $5 or so per medallion why don't we charge $10 and give GB the difference for allowing the use of the name and to help defray the cost of running this site.?

No money to GBO is needed. Just make sure the final design is one I can live with if the GBO name is used. As I said I don't really want to inject myself into what design you select BUT if GBO is used I have to be certain that it is appropriate and as you know Big Mortie ism's are NOT.