Trump Drops "F" Bomb On Live TV This Morning

[darkgael]

“Incidentally, is that little explanation you've got there what you taught the kids in your classroom? ”
Yes, it is.

[Lloyd Smale]

i guess ill ask what happened to free speech. the f bomb does not hurt anyone. it may irritate you but if i made everyone stop saying everything that irritated me personally there would be a deafening silence in this world. guess if trump saying it really bothers you than support someone else. if me saying it bothers you tough shi-. you have no right to force your opinions views on me or anyone else. i know enough to not say it in front of kids and its silly to even bring that into an argument here because nobody on this forum i know would. but who do we have arguing these high standards here? a couple veterans and a cop. talk about throwing rocks in a glass house. if you dont know how to cuss growing up they teach that in boot camp and about every 4th word out of a soldiers mouth is F. cops? 20 years down on the border dealing with that trash and you dont use F??? id bet youve used it on women and kids under 18 probably about daily!! i grew up in a home that you didnt cuss in. came home after 2 years in the service on leave and was at the supper table and asked my dad to pass the fing bread. my ma chased me away from the table and i thought she was going to take a switch to me!! dad calmed her down. he was a vet too and knew my job wasnt an easy one and explained to her that its kind of just a way to blow off steam. what would you prefer? someone saying go f yourself or someone breaking your nose!





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[Dee]

“Incidentally, is that little explanation you've got there what you taught the kids in your classroom? ”
Yes, it is.

Figures

[Dee]

Well, I suppose I misnamed this thread. I thought it unusual that an obviously frustrated president had dropped the F-bomb on live TV, but didn't dream that the  thread would evolve into a defense for vulgarity in public. AMAZING.
Obviously, our world is changing.

[Goldie]

Vulgarity in public? Apparently Some see it as normal behavior. Wonderful would we've become.

[Dee]

Vulgarity in public? Apparently Some see it as normal behavior. Wonderful would we've become.

It appears to be somewhat regional so I'm thankful for that..

TEXAS PENAL CODE

TITLE 9. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND DECENCY

CHAPTER 42. DISORDERLY CONDUCT AND RELATED OFFENSES

SEC. 42.02  (a)  A person  committed an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:

(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane,  or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its  very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

In other words if anyone is offended, the perpetrators can be arrested.

[Goldie]

One of the many reasons I call Texas home.

[GTS225]

Gentlemen;  I suggest this.....whether you use civilized or uncivilized language is your choice, and speaks much about your character.

I did notice that both parties that Mr. Trump was speaking about have seemed to straighten up their act and is keeping their weaponry to themselves (for the moment).

So.....was he wrong to drop that particular descriptive word, if it got the point across through stubborn and thick skulls?

Roger

[Goldie]

Roger I never said it was wrong what Trump said. Just said I think he was tired and maybe a little upsetting to Netanyahu or maybe not, who knows. The thread escalated to using the f word in public. I'm sure Mr Trump could give a rats behind what a bunch of old white people on a redneck forum think anyway.

[GTS225]

Roger I never said it was wrong what Trump said. Just said I think he was tired and maybe a little upsetting to Netanyahu or maybe not, who knows.

Didn't say you did.  I suspect what we saw was the result of stress, long hours, and frustration with the other involved parties.

The thread escalated to using the f word in public. I'm sure Mr Trump could give a rats behind what a bunch of old white people on a redneck forum think anyway.

I'm more responding to what seems to be general disapproval by many over his "slip-of-the-tongue" while on a VERY public forum.  And you're probably quite right......it's doubtful he gives a crap.

Roger

[Lloyd Smale]

guess they dont cuss in texas just us yankees news flash i served with guys from texas and a bunch down south and if anything they were a bit rougher then me. if saying f in public in texas landed you in jail theyd have to convert dallas and huston into prisons give me a break!!!!! next someone will claim there's no crime or liberals down there. just the snowflakes lmao!! most of those yankees are the more wealthy northerners that are republican. the liberals for the most part? born and raised there or came from ca or other southern states. us yankees wouldnt last long anyway. wed all be in jail for cussing i chuckle that you really believe the state your ma popped you out makes you somehow superior to a man born in a different state. that arrogance is just as much a sin as cussing. matter of fact more because your judging and thats Gods job and your judging half the country on some imaginary line! That sin is in plain english with no confusion right there in the bible in your house!!!

[Goldie]

I take it the Michigan Yankee with foul mouth is looking to display his ignorance again. What a joke. Never mentioned you once, but you still show your ignorance, don't you? And like you big mouth, I couldn't care less what you think of me and I sure don't lose any sleep worrying about people like you.

[ironglowz]

  From Lloyd;
   " us yankees wouldnt last long anyway. wed all be in jail for cussing Please; not ALL "yankees"..

  i chuckle that you really believe the state your ma popped you out makes you somehow superior to a man born in a different state. Please, don't confuse choosing differently as one's being "superior", but rather just choosing a different way.

that arrogance is just as much a sin as cussing. True, pride is a sin! Pride is mentioned some 41 times in the KJV edition, and not once in a positive light.  but we should also not forget, pride can be formed around more property, more luxuries, the fastest car, and even a perverse lifestyle.

  matter of fact more because your judging and thats Gods job and your judging half the country on some imaginary line!
 God's job at judging, is judging the final destination of our very souls. He did not expect us to be know-nothing airheads, not knowing right from wrong.  In fact He fills scripture with warnings of behaviors to either engage of dismiss, and He expects us to understand them.

  That sin is in plain english with no confusion right there in the bible in your house!!!"  So, please offer scripture reference, where God says we are not to judge anything on our own.. not to make choices between good & evil, lying or honesty, normal or LGBTQ etc.
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[Dee]

I take it the Michigan Yankee with foul mouth is looking to display his ignorance again. What a joke. Never mentioned you once, but you still show your ignorance, don't you? And like you big mouth, I couldn't care less what you think of me and I sure don't lose any sleep worrying about people like you.

If you noticed GOLDIE I, knowing you to live in Texas I was addressing  you, and  figured you would get some interest in Texas law concerning dealing with folks with nasty mouths in public.
I don't consider myself better than anyone, but I absolutely act better than some in public. I think you would probably agree. Folks whom try to push their foul habits off on the general public deserve a little quiet time courtesy of the State of Texas.

[Goldie]

Exactly what I was thinking of with your remarks about Texas law which I know you know a little about . I just don't get how a certain person can always stick his big personality into the equation and stirs the pot with his elequent way of describing pure B.S.

[Lloyd Smale]

mathew 7:1
Luke 6:37

and especially James 11:27 when he address judging your neighbor 

[Dee]

Goldie, I think this scripture fits the topics drift.James Chapter 4 verse 17

[AtlLaw]

It appears to be somewhat regional so I'm thankful for that..

You got me curious as to Jawja's current law so I looked it up.  First time I've read it in years and it has changed somewhat since last I checked. particular attention to (4)

§ 16-11-39. Disorderly conduct
(a) A person commits the offense of disorderly conduct when such person commits any of the following:
(1) Acts in a violent or tumultuous manner toward another person whereby such person is placed in reasonable fear of the safety of such person's life, limb, or health;
(2) Acts in a violent or tumultuous manner toward another person whereby the property of such person is placed in danger of being damaged or destroyed;
(3) Without provocation, uses to or of another person in such other person's presence, opprobrious or abusive words which by their very utterance tend to incite to an immediate breach of the peace, that is to say, words which as a matter of common knowledge and under ordinary circumstances will, when used to or of another person in such other person's presence, naturally tend to provoke violent resentment, that is, words commonly called "fighting words"; or
(4) Without provocation, uses obscene and vulgar or profane language in the presence of or by telephone to a person under the age of 14 years which threatens an immediate breach of the peace.

[Dee]

I see your disorderly by language is similar to Texas law. I have arrested on complaints concerning the issue of public profanity way more than once.

Its a shame that you have to have such laws because some folks don't know how to act in public

[Land_Owner]

Well! Hasn't this conversation taken a turn into the nastiness of differential finger pointing?  I would prefer we kept these discussions to ourselves, as individual personality traits, and kept our own slates clean internally with regard to how others see and hear us. 

Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me. 

At a Mensa-high IQ, I found solice in using the language of my youth and peers (be "cool" or be cast out), as learned in the Shipyard Community of Mayport Naval Station, Jacksonville, FL - the third largest Fleet Concentration Area in the United States), these personnel (except for Civilians, NAF Employees, and Contract Personnel) are each in the 18 to 25 year young age bracket:

Active Duty and Reserve FTS: 8076
Family members: 21500
Civilians: 826
NAF Employees: 523
Contract Employees: 1,504
Reserve SELRES: 19

Their minute by minute conversations were just like every construction site and every High School hallway between rival males as we puffed out our chests and displayed our tail feathers - to attract females and assert dominance from our respective micro-cosmic world views. It is said that manners are learned at home and rightly so. If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. 

So, until we get our next Gen women to detest such speech, vociforously and with malice aforethought, we will continue to hear these "slip ups", for which WE WILL SAY NO MORE. Convoluted as it may sound, continuing on, and on, and on only exacerbates the vile and lickspittle nature of the practice.  Why?

It is akin to complaining about Liberals posting on this site.  Why?
Why give it (or them) a second's more exposure?  Forget about it.

Isn't it is controversial?  Of course it is.  Does it need to be reguritated, spit up, chewed, swallowed, digested some more, spit up again, etc., and so on. and so on?  No.  It does not.

Call me "Kill Joy", "Ender of Threads", or just plain "Land_Owner" (Richard). Just don't go on about the useless stuff - particularly at one another.

Remember when Mom would stand up from the kitchen table, look toward the roof listening to your brothers and sister, who were supposed to be getting ready for bed, but were instead "cutting the fool"? Mom would raise that wooden salad spoon like a sword and cry out to the popcorn ceiling, "I have had enough of this!", just before charging upstairs to deliver the nightly beatings - you know what I mean.  I was glad on those evenings to already be 'in trouble' and bound to the table until I had finished what Mom dished out for me.

[ironglowz]

  Here I post the scripture verse which Dee pointed out, knowing some will see the textual location, but not bother to check it out.

  17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.   Which of course puts the burden more expressedly upon  anyone claiming the name of Christian.
   We don't expect anyone who is ignorant of this Biblical injunction, to obey what is says.  On the other hand, if one has been prompted by the Holy Spirit, and ignored this prompting, his/her problem is much deeper than mere words.

  ...Likely the reason why the God-less left seems enjoy vulgar language.

  Plus; Thank you AtlLaw, for your professional input. Wow ! Something rarely encountered..free counsel from a genuine "solicitor'...    Thanks Richard !

[Dee]

Well! Hasn't this conversation taken a turn into the nastiness of differential finger pointing?  I would prefer we kept these discussions to ourselves, as individual personality traits, and kept our own slates clean internally with regard to how others see and hear us. 

Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me. 

At a Mensa-high IQ, I found solice in using the language of my youth and peers (be "cool" or be cast out), as learned in the Shipyard Community of Mayport Naval Station, Jacksonville, FL - the third largest Fleet Concentration Area in the United States), these personnel (except for Civilians, NAF Employees, and Contract Personnel) are each in the 18 to 25 year young age bracket:

Active Duty and Reserve FTS: 8076
Family members: 21500
Civilians: 826
NAF Employees: 523
Contract Employees: 1,504
Reserve SELRES: 19

Their minute by minute conversations were just like every construction site and every High School hallway between rival males as we puffed out our chests and displaed our tail feathers to attract females and assert dominance in our respective micrro-cosmic worlds.It is said that manners are learned at home and rightly so. 

If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. 

So, until we get our next Gen women to detest such speech, vociforously and with malice aforethought, we will continue to hear these "slip ups", for which WE WILL SAY NO MORE.

Convoluted as it may sound, continuing on, and on, and on only exacerbates the vile and lickspittle nature of the practice.  Why?

It is akin to complaining about Libtards on this site.  Why?  Why give it (or them) a second's more exposure?  Forget about it.Isn't it is controversial?  Of course it is.  Does it need to be reguritated, spit up, chewed, swallowed, digested some more, spit up again, etc., and so on. and so on?  No.  It does not.

If you're unhappy with the thread ignore it. Like most threads here it has evolved away from the original topic  , and as for myself, I've not accused, nor pointed fingers towards anyone here. 

[Lloyd Smale]

again you take scripture that had nothing to do with this subject and twist it into your own definition. i dont really care if you or anyone else cusses or doesnt unless its aimed at me because if its not its none of my business, i never got my morality police badge. getting back to the subject. do you today think less of our president? I sure dont. I thank God for him and would if he said F--- twice a week to idiots that dont understand kindness and have absolutely no morals themselves. id love to here him tell russia china korea and iran that if you come for us were going to f--- you up plain and simple. its about all they understand. you aint slowing them down or changing their minds quoting scripture or showing one iota of weakness. i thank God for a president that tells it like it is and doesnt worry about being polished while doing it. ANYTHING LESS and you might as well kiss this country good by. time to get our military back to what it was when WE served, bunch of rough tough unpolished killers not worried about hurting someone's feelings with words. ive got a t shirt that says "how does it feel to be so weak that mere words hurt you" this whole argument is silly and the only one seem to be concerned are a couple here and cnn and nbc

  Here I post the scripture verse which Dee pointed out, knowing some will see the textual location, but not bother to check it out.

  17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.   Which of course puts the burden more expressedly upon  anyone claiming the name of Christian.
   We don't expect anyone who is ignorant of this Biblical injunction, to obey what is says.  On the other hand, if one has been prompted by the Holy Spirit, and ignored this prompting, his/her problem is much deeper than mere words.

  ...Likely the reason why the God-less left seems enjoy vulgar language.

  Plus; Thank you AtlLaw, for your professional input. Wow ! Something rarely encountered..free counsel from a genuine "solicitor'...    Thanks Richard !

[Dee]

  Here I post the scripture verse which Dee pointed out, knowing some will see the textual location, but not bother to check it out.

  17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.   Which of course puts the burden more expressedly upon  anyone claiming the name of Christian.
   We don't expect anyone who is ignorant of this Biblical injunction, to obey what is says.  On the other hand, if one has been prompted by the Holy Spirit, and ignored this prompting, his/her problem is much deeper than mere words.

  ...Likely the reason why the God-less left seems enjoy vulgar language.

  Plus; Thank you AtlLaw, for your professional input. Wow ! Something rarely encountered..free counsel from a genuine "solicitor'...    Thanks Richard !

The bottom line ironglow is, there are people with character, and there are people that are characters, so the only real decision is which one do you choose to be.

It really doesn't matter where one is, bad, vulgar language is still bad, and vulgar. Using the  F-bomb as emphasis is poor communication skills, many times related to loss of personal control. And to address my conduct in a past profession; no, I never used that language when dealing with the public. What kind of hypocrisy would that have been to credibility?

In any event, the general public is becoming more coarse, and civility is fading.

[Goldie]

Getting back to the original post, I believe Trump let his emotions get the best of him with his addressing the news people degenerates.. With everything that's going on it would be hard to keep your feelings intact. I think Mr Trump is the best president we've ever seen in my life time anyway. I know he has a hard time holding in his frustrations at times and his gift of talking nonstop at times gets him in precarious positions. My concern with the whole situation is addressing a comment towards Netanyahu in the same breath with the evil crazed Iranian. Trying to keep your act together when evil people kills thousands of your people like Iran has would likely make Netanyahu or anyone  continue bombing the crap out of them especially if they think they broke the cease fire. Just my 2 cents of the whole situation.

[Dee]

Getting back to the original post, I believe Trump let his emotions get the best of him with his addressing the news people degenerates.. With everything that's going on it would be hard to keep your feelings intact. I think Mr Trump is the best president we've ever seen in my life time anyway. I know he has a hard time holding in his frustrations at times and his gift of talking nonstop at times gets him in precarious positions. My concern with the whole situation is addressing a comment towards Netanyahu in the same breath with the evil crazed Iranian. Trying to keep your act together when evil people kills thousands of your people like Iran has would likely make Netanyahu or anyone  continue bombing the crap out of them especially if they think they broke the cease fire. Just my 2 cents of the whole situation.

Which was my point from the beginning, before the thread took a left turn.

[Casull]

Vulgarity in public? Apparently Some see it as normal behavior. Wonderful would we've become.

It appears to be somewhat regional so I'm thankful for that..

TEXAS PENAL CODE

TITLE 9. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND DECENCY

CHAPTER 42. DISORDERLY CONDUCT AND RELATED OFFENSES

SEC. 42.02  (a)  A person  committed an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:

(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane,  or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its  very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

In other words if anyone is offended, the perpetrators can be arrested.

Dee, that's not what it says.  Inciting a breach of the peace and being offended are nowhere near the same thing.

[Dee]

Vulgarity in public? Apparently Some see it as normal behavior. Wonderful would we've become.

It appears to be somewhat regional so I'm thankful for that..

TEXAS PENAL CODE

TITLE 9. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND DECENCY

CHAPTER 42. DISORDERLY CONDUCT AND RELATED OFFENSES

SEC. 42.02  (a)  A person  committed an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:

(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane,  or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its  very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

In other words if anyone is offended, the perpetrators can be arrested.

Dee, that's not what it says.  Inciting a breach of the peace and being offended are nowhere near the same thing.

Hate to be the one to break it to you but, I have personally enforced that statute. What do you think breach of the peace is?

Breach of the peace definition: 1.The legal offense of engaging in public behavior which is violent, rowdy, or disruptive
2. Any public disturbance or disorderly behavior. (Last time i looked,  swearing in public,  is a behavior. )3. Any act of molesting, INTERRUPTING, HINDERING,  AGITATING,  OR AROUSING FROM A STATE OF REPOSE OR OTHERWISE DEPRIVING INHABITANTS OF THE PEACE AND QUIET TO WHICH THEY ARE ENTITLED.

The upside is your not in Texas and I cited Texas law, so it doesn't effect you unless your state hasn't a similar law.

[Casull]

Hate to pull the lawyer card on you Dee, but the statute you are quoting refers to "inciting" an immediate breach of the peace.  If the language in question WAS a breach of the peace, there would be no requirement that the language "incite" a breach of the peace.  Saying the "F" word is NOT a breach of the peace, and the Supreme Court has already ruled that it falls under freedom of speech.  Just because you may have arrested people under that statute years ago does not mean it would withstand a SCOTUS ruling today.

[Dee]

Hate to pull the lawyer card on you Dee, but the statute you are quoting refers to "inciting" an immediate breach of the peace.  If the language in question WAS a breach of the peace, there would be no requirement that the language "incite" a breach of the peace.  Saying the "F" word is NOT a breach of the peace, and the Supreme Court has already ruled that it falls under freedom of speech.  Just because you may have arrested people under that statute years ago does not mean it would withstand a SCOTUS ruling today.

Well, I've had lots of lawyer cards pulled on me over the years and thankfully my shredder handles'em all. If you think I'm wrong just come on down to Texas start getting loud and vulgar in a family restaurant, or park, or public place around  kids and women, and see what happens when someone files a complaint. You  don't  have to agree with the  law, but  it says what it  says, and has for decades, and is enforced likely on a daily  bases.Nuff said. Texas law is in Texas.