Author Topic: best canoe gun?????? (Read 2585 times)

45-70.gov · « **on:** November 12, 2012, 06:40:52 AM »

i hear about ''truck gun'' and ''trail guns'' and ''woods loafing guns'' ''tractor guns''
got any to add....fill in the blank....''________ gun'' on this thread

HOW ABOUT A ''CANOE GUN''??

basically any small boat gun
i will more likely be in a kayak
but also for those that prefer a jon boat

this is a handi site........but if you prefer something else..
you must also include a handi choice
as i will ALWAYS have my 357 revolver with me any time ant place

so therefor one of my 357 handis is one of my main choices

if you like to plink on the water a lot...then i assume you to pick a 22
shot gun if snakes are your main concern

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2012, 07:12:37 AM »

Depends on what you plan on shootin. I sold both my canoes and got a small jon boat. I don't think I "myself" would take a rifle in a kayak. I probably won't get in one

Seem too unstable for me.
I usually take a Ruger 20" 22 Hornet if after groundhogs. Now I have Handi Superlites in Hornet and 223 that will get to go next. For squirrel I've used my Rem 541-T, Rem 597 camo, and a few years ago my Handi Sportster 22 r.f. that took a red squirrel off a limb at a fur distance while floating down river. Told my buddy to watch this big tree, he wondered why, at the shot the red squirrel fell. He said "How'd you even see that". Have used 10" Contender in Hornet when it had a red dot on it. Hard to get on a running groundhog with that. Usually have a Mossburg 410 3" #4s as backup in case the squirrel gets lucky enough to run

Wish I was on the river right now

So, Jon Boat Gun!

thejanitor · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2012, 07:26:56 AM »

When you say canoe gun it swings my memories to Blackpowder camping and a 20 ga flintlock tulle. But This summer on our canoe trips I had a 20 ga pardner along. (since you will have the revolver) If not the 20 ga, maybe the .357 maximum with everything from .38 Trail boss- wad cutters to a stout deer maxi load... thejanitor

gendoc · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2012, 07:35:39 AM »

we gotta air-boat gun itsa rc'd handi in 220 swift. its for them kiyot that steal my fish traps
in winter time when tha water is low here in tha swamp.
whatsa jon boat ? does it hava head on it $:-\$ born ana raised on tha water an don't thanki
ever heard bout that'un. mite be handi tho..............

quickdtoo · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2012, 07:44:34 AM »

Quote from: bigvarmnt on November 12, 2012, 07:12:37 AM

Depends on what you plan on shootin. I sold both my canoes and got a small jon boat. I don't think I "myself" would take a rifle in a kayak. I probably won't get in one Seem too unstable for me.

Lots of ignorance on kayak stability, you'd be surprised how stabile a modern kayak is.

Tim

http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/

http://www.youtube.com/user/KayakFishingTales

FPH · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2012, 08:21:42 AM »

How about an AR-7? I am told it floats. It is also compact.

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2012, 08:42:29 AM »

Tim, sorry, I am ignorant about them. I've seen people roll over, meaning head under water and come back up, not for me

My buddy went out in his last year for Geese and when he shot his 12 ga, it rolled him over. Said there was no resistance on the off shot side. Again not for me

I do know people that love them. I got too lazy to use a paddle much anymore. Usually spend the whole day on the river and motor up to the next town and float back down in stealth mode. Arms wouldn't be able to lift gun.
gendoc, it's just an air boat without the airplane engine

It's the little one in the foreground. I got the one behind it as I can't sit for long periods of time. Helps to walk around at times. I think I've only had my 45 auto and 12 ga shorty as: Pontoon Gun. Hope to change that next summer

gendoc · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2012, 08:45:48 AM »

ok BV, we call that'un a skiff..........i wasa kinda look'n fora out-house on board !!!

thanks for straight'n me out

canon6 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2012, 08:54:35 AM »

+1 on the 357 Maxi shorty. Doug

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2012, 08:57:42 AM »

John, now your talkin optional equipment an I don't always take all the options along

Sorry if I'm Hijacking this thread but 44 mag works for Outhouse Gun

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2012, 09:01:09 AM »

Quote from: bigvarmnt on November 12, 2012, 08:42:29 AM

Tim, sorry, I am ignorant about them. I've seen people roll over, meaning head under water and come back up, not for me My buddy went out in his last year for Geese and when he shot his 12 ga, it rolled him over. Said there was no resistance on the off shot side. Again not for me

Sounds like he needs a little help or more experience!

I've not hunted from mine, others do tho, but I've fished with no problems, love my Old Town Dirigo 120 Angler.

The only "canoe gun" I've had experience with was my .62 cal Tradegun flinter.

Tim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVla6OpLeK4&feature=related

gendoc · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2012, 09:04:43 AM »

Quote from: bigvarmnt on November 12, 2012, 08:57:42 AM

John, now your talkin optional equipment an I don't always take all the options along

Sorry if I'm Hijacking this thread but 44 mag works for Outhouse Gun

no hijack !! thatsa mitey fine porta-jon i'll tellya...................

rdlange · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2012, 09:08:25 AM »

Purpose? Just grab one... 20ga shorty probably adequate & most versatile where I paddle. Leashed to the boat in a long plastic ziplock bag.

Specific purpose = specific gun. Example: my nurtia night hunter & bunny gun is a .25 cal custom Crosman scoped air pistol.

So I gotta know what I'm shootin' at.

hoytcanon · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2012, 09:37:06 AM »

Remington 870 12 gauge pump... does everything you need it to do... its not expensive and if it goes in the drink... its almost a favor to you.

Ganjiro · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:29:47 AM »

This is my truck/boat/canoe gun a stainless steel (frame & barrel) 357 magnum single shot model R357S Rossi (heaven forbid

) with the barrel lopped to 16.25" and a Williams peep added, weighs in at about 3 pounds. Been super reliable and accurate for several years since 2005

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:44:51 AM »

Now that one may go a ways toward changing my mind on Rossi.

Looks nice and Handi

45-70.gov · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:55:27 AM »

a boat gun should be stainless......tho mine are not.....other the the packet gun

casca1 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2012, 01:22:27 PM »

I have a HAKIM, can always be used as a PADDLE
casca

Flynmoose · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2012, 02:31:12 PM »

I recently got a 7 1/2 foot Livingston catamaran. I will take my 410 Tamer with me to the lake.
FM

bodie4 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2012, 01:32:46 AM »

I've got an old 870 that gets wet more then I do on my duck hunting kayak and it always goes bang. it's been striped and reblued 2 or 3 times, then I gave up and gave it a rattlecan camo thats held up well. Been thinkin of taking my shorty 20ga or 12 ga h&r for more of a sporty hunt.

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Sourdough · « **Reply #20 on:** November 13, 2012, 02:44:04 AM »

Kayak is only as stable as the kayaker's center of gravity. I'm too fat, makes mine too high. A Kayak is too hard to get into with my long legs. Can't move legs around enough once in. Impossible to get out of with out getting wet for me. I no longer do Canoes either. The Jon Boat or the Cataraft for me. Got a gun rack on both, handi's fit the rack, and usually have the 30-06 or the 25-06. The 30-06 has done it's days underwater.

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2012, 03:21:14 AM »

Sourdough said it better, same reasons for me on the Kayak

What kind of range do the 06's get underwater

BUGEYE · « **Reply #22 on:** November 13, 2012, 03:31:55 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on November 12, 2012, 07:44:34 AM

Quote from: bigvarmnt on November 12, 2012, 07:12:37 AM
Depends on what you plan on shootin. I sold both my canoes and got a small jon boat. I don't think I "myself" would take a rifle in a kayak. I probably won't get in one Seem too unstable for me.

Lots of ignorance on kayak stability, you'd be surprised how stabile a modern kayak is.

Tim

http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/

http://www.youtube.com/user/KayakFishingTales

How do you get in it without getting your feet wet??

45-70.gov · « **Reply #23 on:** November 13, 2012, 04:10:10 AM »

to keep feet dry
just get in on dry ground
separate te paddle
use like 2 ski poles
a useful trip in the shallow swamps

quickdtoo · « **Reply #24 on:** November 13, 2012, 04:44:30 AM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on November 13, 2012, 03:31:55 AM

How do you get in it without getting your feet wet??

Easy once ya know how.

Tim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2LDv2DkQWA&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOaSwKGExOc&feature=related

petemi · « **Reply #25 on:** November 13, 2012, 04:52:38 AM »

I really hate to say this. Until just now, I'd say my camo Handi maxi shorty would be it......but....with the help another member here a I'm putting together a Savage 24V Maxi over 20 ga. with choke tubes cut to 18.5 inches. It may just give the Handi a run for its money. The only thing that might not work well is it's not a straight grip which would be better for paddling.

Pete

Ganjiro · « **Reply #26 on:** November 13, 2012, 08:00:21 AM »

Quote from: Sourdough on November 13, 2012, 02:44:04 AM

Kayak is only as stable as the kayaker's center of gravity. I'm too fat, makes mine too high. A Kayak is too hard to get into with my long legs. Can't move legs around enough once in. Impossible to get out of with out getting wet for me. I no longer do Canoes either. The Jon Boat or the Cataraft for me. Got a gun rack on both, handi's fit the rack, and usually have the 30-06 or the 25-06. The 30-06 has done it's days underwater.

In the island style I outriggered both my canoe for added stability.

YRUpunting? · « **Reply #27 on:** November 13, 2012, 08:19:27 AM »

My thinking when I'm on the water is what ever I take with me may not make it home unless it floats. For a canoe/boat gun I would pick up a pawn shop 410 or 20 gauge. Put the most beat up stock set I have on it and paint it like Sourdough's 06. If I loose it, back to the pawn shop and repeat.

zookiezoom · « **Reply #28 on:** November 13, 2012, 08:56:54 AM »

How long would ( or would it at all?) a handi float with the sythetic stock? I have an old action from a huntsman that may turn into an experiment if someone hasn't tried either by accident or design.

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #29 on:** November 13, 2012, 08:58:37 AM »

Last year I was sitting on a log in a hardwood swamp with my 20 ga. H&R across my lap and got to thinkin. The old mountain men carried trade guns, most in 62 cal, or about 20 ga. they could load swan shot for birds or round ball for bigger game. He I sat with the same thing and I could swap back and forth with a flick o' the wrist. Buckshot for walkin thru the bush. Slugs for sittin still for a while and some #6 shot if a tree rat should get too noisy. Seemed like to me I had all the bases covered.