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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2012, 01:19:29 PM »
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The unions are for the average working person wanting to make a fair working wage, not just enough to pay for food and rent, like alot of companys would do if there wasn,t for the unions, teachers don't make that much money when you have to go to college four years to start with, how many of you have that to pay for ?

Already paid for mine. 8)
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2012, 01:26:39 PM »
Yep, paid mine as I went.  And, it was 7 years.  Little thing called work helped.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2012, 03:58:16 PM »
The unions are for the average working person wanting to make a fair working wage, not just enough to pay for food and rent, like alot of companys would do if there wasn,t for the unions, teachers don't make that much money when you have to go to college four years to start with, how many of you have that to pay for ?

Yep, mine paid for too! This Union/Entitlement mentality is foreign for me. Instead of getting into a field & then expecting a group to do strongarm tactics so that I could make more money, I got into a field where I could make more to begin with & I would either perform or I would not. It's a different World, kinda free enterprize like.  ;D
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 07:29:04 PM »
Yea, and I a blue collar worker have both worked in a Union and non-Union companys and in non-Union shops I,ve seen
 people pushed out the door after working eighteen years of good service, because they can find a kid off the streets for $ 5.00 a hour cheaper !, so the Unions do had a place in our society.

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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2012, 10:29:57 PM »
Yea, and I a blue collar worker have both worked in a Union and non-Union companys and in non-Union shops I,ve seen
 people pushed out the door after working eighteen years of good service, because they can find a kid off the streets for $ 5.00 a hour cheaper !, so the Unions do had a place in our society.
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  Just 'overlook" the strongarm, criminal activities.  So the guy down the street, who wants NOTHING to do with unions, gets broken kneecaps or legs...  Maybe his wife and kids are threatened ..or worse..so what ?
  Check this video being filmed by a 5'1" female:  http://www.redstate.com/tabithahale/2011/02/23/union-thuggery-descends-on-freedomworks/
   
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 12:23:11 AM »
Well then he should work at a non-Union job then

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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2012, 02:07:26 AM »
Well then he should work at a non-Union job then

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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2012, 02:20:57 AM »
Yea, and I a blue collar worker have both worked in a Union and non-Union companys and in non-Union shops I,ve seen
 people pushed out the door after working eighteen years of good service, because they can find a kid off the streets for $ 5.00 a hour cheaper !, so the Unions do had a place in our society.

I have seen that too, there are good employers & bad ones. I like the freedom to work for good ones & yes the opportunity & RISK that goes along with it. I don't need a Union crutch for that "false security", it doesn't feel very secure when those "union shops" close.
 
And of course we have all seen those Union Plants shut down, move South or Overseas due to the fact those plants can not compete & the Union boys always think the companies have unlimited resourses & refuse to look at real #'s.
 
For the good of the Nation, I hate to see the damage that has been done in recent times by Unions, regardless of the good intentions of some of the folks in the early days, that has been overshadowed by the greed & hunger for power of the Union Leaders. For me personally, the Unions have given me more income, as alot of plants/Steel Companies have moved in our area in order to remain profitable. I guess I could say to keep it coming. ::)
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2012, 03:03:39 AM »
Thank you UMWA For helping to lift those out of poverty wages.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2012, 03:23:14 AM »
Thank you UMWA For helping to lift those out of poverty wages.

Are you refering to the United World Martial Arts, United Way of Metropolitan Atlanta or United Women's Muslims Association????
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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2012, 03:37:46 AM »
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2012, 03:42:30 AM »
Well then he should work at a non-Union job then




May have to relocate to China or Mexico to do that ;)
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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2012, 03:45:35 AM »
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Ohhhh right....  Were those the workers that would have worked up in the mine that the democrats killed in Northern Wisconsin???
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2012, 04:22:18 AM »
No those are the workers who for years have to continue working in unsafe mines for little wages, poor safety conditions, and continuously get screwed on heath benefits, pensions etc , By the likes of Peabody .

It amazes me when people argue or try to incite from positions of unknowing.

Nice Try
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2012, 04:23:14 AM »

 
"The People of Tolerance" in full force.  ;D

Yup! Someone here has a sig line that pretty much describes the mindset: Paraphrasing: "Liberals want everyone to be able to voice their opinion, but are upset when they have different ones"
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« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2012, 04:25:16 AM »
Back on topic:
http://news.yahoo.com/feelings-run-deep-wis-recall-few-undecided-174314508.html;_ylt=AmcsbUIwFB9Y0rthhKvusrVtzwcF;_ylu=X3oDMTNoZGlmZTJlBG1pdAMEcGtnAzJkYzVmZTNjLWE3MTEtM2VlYy05N2FlLTMxOTgzMWQxMjYyNARwb3MDMTkEc2VjA2xuX1BvbGl0aWNzX2dhbAR2ZXIDOTc4NDM0MDctOTg0My0xMWUxLTk3NWYtNWJhNDRkZDg0ODc1;_ylv=3
RACINE, Wis. (AP) — Al Trossen feels like a wanted man. The former Teamster voted for embattled Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in 2010 but isn't sure who to support in the state's historic recall election next month.
"There's so much bashing on both sides," the 71-year-old retired truck driver said. "How does a person know what to believe?"
A few days before a Democratic primary that will decide who will take on the Republican Walker, and four weeks until the general election, it's not easy to find undecided voters like Trossen. One recent poll put the percentage of undecided voters in the low single digits.
But that tiny group will be the focus of extraordinary attention now in a fiercely fought campaign that has become a national battle over worker rights. With the race a virtual toss-up, the rival forces — which include the national Democratic and Republican parties, powerful conservative interest groups and organized labor — must hone their closing arguments for people who so far have been unmoved by months of impassioned appeals.
"I don't think there's a huge persuadable universe out there in this campaign," Republican strategist Mark Graul said. With the undecided amounting to perhaps 2 to 4 percent, said Sachin Chheda, a Democratic strategist, "The challenge on both sides is to get people motivated to vote."
Most Wisconsin voters already love or hate Walker. Tens of thousands of protesters swarmed the Capitol for three weeks last year after he made his push to end most public employees bargaining rights to help address the state's budget problems. Recall organizers were easily able to gather nearly a million signatures supporting his removal, but Walker's supporters also flooded his campaign with more than $25 million.
The campaigns and special interests have spent about $40 million on a political blitz that has penetrated every household.
But voters who are still wavering include some who approved of Walker's cuts to state spending but who found his tactics too confrontational. They also include Democrats who sympathize with state workers but think Walker earned the right to serve his entire term. Some say they're still trying to figure out whether Wisconsin's economy is better or worse off with Walker.
"I want to find out the truth. Have we created more jobs?" said Trossen, among the voters interviewed between the southeastern Wisconsin city of Racine and the Madison-area community of Sun Prairie. Walker credits his conservative, business-friendly policies for helping reduce the state's unemployment rate to 6.8 percent, the lowest since 2008. However, federal reports also show Wisconsin lost more jobs in the past year than did any other state.
Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, who lost to Walker by five percentage points in the 2010 election, is expected to win the chance in Tuesday's Democratic primary to face Walker in the June 5 general election. Polls show him leading former Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, who has received heavy union backing; Secretary of State Doug La Follette; and state Sen. Kathleen Vinehout.
Sun Prairie resident Cathy Fleury, 50, voted for Barrett in 2010 but is torn over whether he would be an improvement over Walker. She dislikes Walker's tough tactics but says Democrats haven't offered any new ideas for the state's fiscal condition.
"If nothing changes, if nobody comes up with a new platform or any genuine new ideas to make a change, it'll be like a flip of a coin" on Election Day, she said.
Jim Morelli, 52, a safety representative at the Wisconsin utility We Energies, said he intends to listen to what the candidates say about creating jobs and improving the economy. Though he's inclined to let Walker finish his term, "I'm sure there's something they could say to change my mind," he said, referring to Walker's opponents.
The state elections board predicts a voter turnout of 30 percent to 35 percent, or between 1.3 million and 1.5 million people, for Tuesday's primary, which would be the highest for a partisan Wisconsin primary in 60 years. Turnout is also expected to be high in June, and the race now appears to be roughly even.
The candidates are relying on attack ads to sway or motivate voters. TV and Internet ads for Barrett and Falk accuse the governor of cutting funding for education and failing to create the 250,000 jobs he promised in the 2010 campaign. Ads on behalf of Walker portray Barrett as the mayor of a failing city with a poor economy and Falk as a poor fiscal manager.
Undecided voters interviewed stressed that party ties don't matter at this point.
Wendy Hanson of Marshal, about 20 miles northeast of Madison, voted for Walker in 2010 but later signed a recall petition against him. She said she was turned off by his "dictatorial" style, but neither is she impressed by what she sees as a lackluster crop of Democrats. She said no candidates have given her a reason to vote for them.
"The way this is right now it's going to be the way I feel on Election Day, unless something comes out of the box to sway me," the 50-year-old said. "I don't know what that would be."
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Richmond reported from Sun Prairie, Wis. Ramde can be reached at dramde(at)ap.org.
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2012, 04:35:57 AM »
No those are the workers who for years have to continue working in unsafe mines for little wages, poor safety conditions, and continuously get screwed on heath benefits, pensions etc , By the likes of Peabody .

It amazes me when people argue or try to incite from positions of unknowing.

Nice Try
Unions have their place.

I'm confused... So there wouldn't be any union workers at the mine that your liberal friends killed??? If the unions have their place, why weren't they fighting to get the mining bill passed so there would be more mining and mining equipment jobs created?  Ahhh I remember, because it would have made Walker look good.  The old cut off your nose to spite your face routine....  Yeah, unions have their place alright, it's called history...
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« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2012, 06:51:26 AM »
The democrats in Wi have gone out of their way to defeat any type of jobs in Wi just to make Walker look bad. They have no common sence. I find it hillarious that Barret wants Walkers job claiming he could run the state better. He messed up Milwaukee by running it into the ground and slowing down job growth while championing give away programs and uppping taxes on the working middle class.
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« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2012, 08:29:23 AM »
The democrats in Wi have gone out of their way to defeat any type of jobs in Wi just to make Walker look bad. They have no common sence. I find it hillarious that Barret wants Walkers job claiming he could run the state better. He messed up Milwaukee by running it into the ground and slowing down job growth while championing give away programs and uppping taxes on the working middle class.

That sounds like a dream Dem. Canditate, he could win with that record.
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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2012, 09:14:50 AM »
The democrats in Wi have gone out of their way to defeat any type of jobs in Wi just to make Walker look bad.

And How specifically did they manage to do that in WI with a Republican controlled legislature and Republican Governor?.

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« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2012, 10:13:12 AM »
The democrats in Wi have gone out of their way to defeat any type of jobs in Wi just to make Walker look bad.

And How specifically did they manage to do that in WI with a Republican controlled legislature and Republican Governor?.

If you have to ask that, then you're just being cinical.  Unfortunately we have a couple RINO's in the senate and they voted against the mining bill along with all of the liberal senators. Killed by one vote.  Thousands of jobs, billions of dollars that would have been generated by the mine.  I don't understand you liberals....
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« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2012, 12:29:18 PM »
Well then he should work at a non-Union job then
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  He probably does work at a non-union job   and that's why they "thugged" him..
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« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2012, 03:53:27 PM »
Vote for Walker in Primary Election on Tuesday May 8th. The Republican Party of Wisconsin is recommending we all get out to vote for GOVERNOR WALKER in the May 8th Primary election.

HOWEVER......DON"T STOP THERE! YOU CAN ALSO VOTE AGAINST THE LT. GOVERNOR DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE IN THE SAME ELECTION!

This Recall Election is different than a normal primary. Each election is separate. Therefore, you CAN vote in the Governor's Primary on the Republican side and vote for Governor Walker, AND, then you can also vote in the Lt. Governor's primary on the Democrat side!

Mahlon Mitchell is the Democrat Candidate for Lt. Governor. ISAAC WEIX is the Republican Protest Candidate. Vote for ISAAC WEIX in the Lt. Governor Primary and ELIMINATE Mr. Mitchell in the primary.

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« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2012, 06:11:05 PM »
while99,

What about Lt Governor Kleefisch?  Is she on the ballot?  I hope she gets to stay as well.

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« Reply #54 on: May 08, 2012, 03:24:16 AM »
while99,

What about Lt Governor Kleefisch?  Is she on the ballot?  I hope she gets to stay as well.

ST762

Kleefisch is not on the primary ballot as she does not have a challenger, that is why we can vote for the protest candidate Weix in the donkey primary and still vote for Walker.  Hopefully Weix wins, easy name to remember...
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« Reply #55 on: May 08, 2012, 03:51:07 PM »
Buckskin,

Glad to hear that Lt Gov Kleefisch is not being forced to a primary.  I saw her on Fox with Greta one night, and was very impressed. I wish you guys luck, and hope that you are able to defeat the union thugs.

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« Reply #56 on: May 08, 2012, 03:51:40 PM »
It was quiet at the polls this morning when it opened at 7am. Standing in the parking lot I heard Walkers name and Isaacs mentioned numerous times all in a good and not a negative. I pray that all goes well with Walker otherwise Wi will be in debt again with the dummycrappers  :(
Vote for Walker otherwise Wi will be in debt again.
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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2012, 08:48:55 AM »
It was quiet at the polls this morning when it opened at 7am. Standing in the parking lot I heard Walkers name and Isaacs mentioned numerous times all in a good and not a negative. I pray that all goes well with Walker otherwise Wi will be in debt again with the dummycrappers  :(
Vote for Walker otherwise Wi will be in debt again.

yes those Austerity measures put in place sure have been working well. Wisconsin lost another 4,300 private sector jobs in March (as reported Thursday by the state Department of Workforce Development). Bit off track with his promise to create 250,000 new private-sector positions by the end of his first term, wouldn't you say?.

The new report puts state private-sector employment at 2,329,500, compared with 2,323,600 since Walker took office.  An increase of only 5,900 jobs. That leaves the governor about  244,100 jobs short.

But hey .. no worries maybe all them corps who received all those tax giveaways which caused state revenue shortfalls to begin with will come through just in time for CHRISTmas.  The hiring of the unemployed/underemployed seasonal  may be just enough to mask the stats and Wisconsin can end the year on a positive uptick for 2012.

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Forbes  -  2/14/2012

Scott Walker is running a television commercial extolling the crowning achievement of his short time in office —the balancing of the Wisconsin state budget and the wiping out of the $3.2 billion deficit he inherited.

Even the harshest critic of the Wisconsin governor would have to acknowledge that this is some pretty impressive work. For a governor to balance his state’s budget in these tough times—even if it is done by making Draconian cuts to health and education—is a noteworthy accomplishment.

Of course, such admiration would only be required if the Governor had, in truth, actually succeeded in the manner he suggests.Unfortunately, it turns out that Scott Walker is being a very bad boy…again.

In fact, we now know that the Governor is either being untruthful with the good people of Wisconsin on the whole ‘I balanced budget and wiped out the deficit’ thing or he’s been, shall we say, stretching the truth when speaking to Uncle Sam on the same topic.

As we all know, it’s not nice to lie to your Uncle Sam.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/02/14/will-gov-scott-walker-ever-come-clean-on-wisconsins-budget-deficit/
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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2012, 10:33:31 AM »
Hey Scooter,
 
Where was all the anti Walker fever that we've heard so much about this last year??? Walker got more votes than Barrett and your union hack Falk combined and he really didn't even have a primary. Walker had the biggest vote turn out for a primary in 60 years, just wait until June 5th, the union thugs will be heading out of state with their tails between their legs AGAIN!!!  Kinda fun to watch, just wish it wasn't costing the state tens of millions of dollars, but what do they care...
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Re: Help Gov. Scott Walker fight re-call.....
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2012, 02:50:24 PM »
Scooter has the typical dummycrapper mentality  ;D
I want to recall Santa because I didn't get what I wanted  :'(
How's that working out for you?
According to the dummycrappers Doyle running the state into debt is OK. Someone has to pick up the pieces and it sure isn't the dumi's.
Do you speak German? Well I don't speak Spanish so maybe you'd better learn English.