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Offline schuetzen

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Rear iron sights on Encore rifles vs pistols
« on: November 30, 2010, 04:01:03 PM »
Occasionally, I see a TC rifle barrel (Encore and I believe some Contenders) with what looks like a pistol rear sight.

See image here: http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/images/silos/5681.jpg

Perhaps a better link of image: http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/firearmDetails.php?ID=5681

I have held a pistol barrel up close to my eye as a rifle barrel would be and found there was too much room for visual alignment to be accurate.

Are there actually two different sights, or are they identical on rifle barrels vs pistol barrels?
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Re: Rear iron sights on Encore rifles vs pistols
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 09:31:58 AM »
You will notice that those are fiber optic sights. I have taken the rear fiber optic off a muzzleloader barrel and put on a pistol barrel and it worked just fine
The pistol sight and the rifle sight on newer barrel both look the same to me. The rifle sight is futher down the barrel than pistol to give you a longer sighting plane and pistol has a longer sighting plane because you are holding it out from you, someone may be able to explain it better but you get the point.

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Re: Rear iron sights on Encore rifles vs pistols
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2010, 12:04:19 PM »
DEACONLLB,

Yes, I think I understand what you are describing.  I have only seen the pistol version of this rear sight and it does not look like it is satisfactory to use for a rifle rear sight because the aperture slot is too wide (too wide to obtain accuracy when one's eye is too close as with holding a rifle).

I have been looking for inexpensive alternatives to rework existing barrels into carbine barrels ~16+", either by cutting down longer barrels or by putting an extension (flash hider or compensator) on 15" pistol barrels so they can be used with a stock.   The existing pistol sights won't work very well as a carbine rifle barrel.  I don't like using scopes.  Typical rifle rear open sights don't give a very good sight radius for a ~16" barrel.

My favorite type of sights are what I describe as diopter sights, maybe "annular" sights might be a better name, see image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Visierlinie.jpg/220px-Visierlinie.jpg

I have a machinist friend who is going to try to mount a surplus front sight from an HK on one of my barrels.  From making some estimates, I think that I will be able to match it up with a Williams style peep sight on the rear.  I may need to use something larger like a ghost ring.  I may also try mounting a surplus HK 91 or MP5 rear drum sight.  Should be a fun project.
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Re: Rear iron sights on Encore rifles vs pistols
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 06:40:40 AM »
I put the williams rear peep on my encore pistol barrel and it works great. If the hole is too small you can remove the insert and use it as a ghost ring or you can drill the peep out til you get the desired size.
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