This scared the crap out of me !!!!!

[dbuz]

I've never heard about the sword of Gideon thing. The only being that can defeat the Devil is God. Christ's work on the cross seal Satan's doom. He still has access to heaven (Job 1:6, 2 Chron. 18:20, Luke 22:31, 1 Sam. 16:14) to get permission to tempt God's children who have been bought by the blood of Christ and will finally be thrown out during the tribulation (Rev. 12:7-9). Read Acts 19:13-20 and see what happened to the sons of Sceva when they tried to cast out some demons in the name of the Lord Jesus, but there was one large problem. They had not put their trust in the Lord Jesus so they had no power against the darkness of this world. If you do not know Christ and follow Him, you have no power against Satan. You will need more than those boots you were talking about Mikey, you need the blood of Christ and to put your faith in Him. Remember also, in Mark 9:14-29, Jesus cast out a demon that His disciples could not. 2 Cor. 4:3-4 says that Satan is the God of this world. Don't underestimate his or his evil spirits power. You can not face him without Jesus in your heart.

[willis5]

just give me directions to the culvert so I never have to go there. I wouldn't have been around long enough to take a picture. :-D

[1911crazy]

but didn't the ArchAngel Michael defeat Satan with the Sword of Gideon??  Satan can defeat you if you think you can fight against him, but you can hold to God's strength by rebuking Satan yourself and puting him behind you.  I think.  Look at it this way - I'm not going to flirt with the devil and risk it.  If God calls upon me to do battle with the devil then I'm gonna wear my azz-kickin' boots but otherwise I would avoid that disease like the plague it is.  Mikey.

Mikey there is no fear on my every trip to one of the most haunted places on this earth I always have my 45 with three mags.  So let the @ss woopin begin.  I'm sure my faith is enough my 45 is backup.  I figure if things can materialize before me then there in our world?(kidding) But I have no fear in going to dudleytown and no fear when things start to happen with the dog either.  The camera picks up the orbs on film and you don't know anything is happening until something calls the dog that when the crap hits the fan and it continues until we leave but it really starts with the dog as we are leaving.  Even with seeing the two hoof tracks inside the boot tracks in the snow the place got more interesting.  I would like to go back to investigate more.
                                                                               BigBill

[Mikey]

inside the bootprints?????????????????  Now ya'll got me worried.....  Mikey.

[1911crazy]

inside the bootprints??  Now ya'll got me worried.....  Mikey.

Yes Mikey the hoof prints were inside the boot tracks to hide them.  This is the day I went in then doubled back to go right and follow a trail that went around and the place in a full circle and when I came out my tracks from when I first went in and doubled back were gone thats how i noticed the hoof tracks inside the boot tracks because i was looking for mine in the snow.   I never found them and if I didn't know the place I would of missed the trail completely comming out.  Many get lost in there because its said that things change.  And these tracks weren't deer tracks the hoof's had a strange curve to them.  Mikey this is a strange place.  The california film crew got ran out of there when something appeared in an old cellar opening these guys packed up and left and when they got home to california all the film they shot there was nothing on the film.  This is the only time my camera sould go off by itself three or four times it would just shoot without me touching it.  We also had trouble with the cam corder too one trip with the on/off switch it would turn by itself too.  What ever is there likes to fool with camera's it plays games.  So do you think the place is haunted??  I do for sure and yes I would  go back  if the place wasn't closed to outsiders now.  I know some other doubters who went in there too and came out and never want to go back.    BigBill

There are no birds or other wildlife in this place too its very quiet but very nice looking woods and empty old foundations from the ones who left or perished.

[444encore]

Yup, sound's like them space aliens to me. I've been down to Arecebo Puerto Rico where they got that big radio telescope. Trying to take pictures, my camera had every malfunction it could. Never got any pictures. But as soon as I left it worked fine.
   As far as the hoof prints within the boot prints go, I'm not tryin to explain it away, only offering some reason to consider. We all know that animals in the woods will try to take the path of least resistance. Now Mikey, I can only assume that these tracks were in snow? I've watched animals walk in the tracks of others through snow and can only assume that they don't want to get there feet wet. Heck my dog does this when she goes out in the snow, She'll carefully place each foot in the same hole she made the day before.

[444encore]

OOps, I addressed that to Mikey, Shoul've been for BigBill

[.45 COLT]

BigBill - I know you've said Dudleytown is closed to outsiders - are there any plans to remove that ban? I'm gonna be in that general area sometime this year and you've got me real interested in going there.

[1911crazy]

They weren't  deer tracks in the boot tracks they were larger hoof tracks it appeared to be two legged hoof tracks they were perfectly in syc with the human tracks it looked like a pair of tracks.  When we went in my tracks were on the right I was breaking trail (fresh snow) I never seen the tracks on the left side of the road going in.  And when i doubled back to loop arond I never found mine when i returned to the same road.  This is a weird place.  The famous ghost hunters the Warrens went there and said its a very bad place and no one should  go there and there is very bad evil spirits.  Its owned by a land trust now and closed.  There is a lot of info on it on the net at the "cosmic society" site. If you do a search for dudleytown many articles will come up.  When I first heard about it from my son, the local kids go there years ago, so I deceided to see for myself.  After a few trips only on one trip it was very quiet nothing happened but the dog did runoff for quite some time and came back as we were leaving I thought I lost her and would have to checkout the local dog pounds on the way home for a "look a like" its the misses dog.  But on the way out she came back with her tonge on the ground from running so much.  One story has the researchers there being slapped to the ground by something one person heard the slap as the other fell.  So whats ever there can be playfull with cameras and mean too and hurt us too. I'm not sure if it likes to see us leave or it wants us to stay on some trips it calls the dog as we leave more than once the dog has either stopped in its tracks to look back or actually ran back and looked up a large tree at one point we were about 50yds away "leaving" and it ran back to look up.  While I shot pictures of the dog, of the tree, of the little hill top where the dog was looking at, nothing was on the film but I may have take them out to look closer or have them checked out.                                                                            BigBill

There is another story about a local cemertary here in Monroe,Ct  its on pepper street.  One night a Cop and fireman were driving home together when a woman in a white dress was hit by their truck while running across the road.   She dissappeared leaving a dent in the front of the truck.  Both of these guys were so upset.  A woman driving behind them also seen them hit her too.

At the cosmic society they have pictures of dudleytown with the orbs we see here.  My very first trip my film captured the orbs too so there is no other explaination as to what they are they are real  "spirits" captured on film.   While I'm never scared while investigating this,  that picture of Micheal Jackson scares me here!!!!

[Mikey]

this is getting spookier and spookier and spookier.  

45 Colt - when do you think you might be in the area - I'm thinking that if I can link up with BigBill to tour the area if it opens up, 3 would be better than 2 when it comes to going into strange areas...............  Mikey.

[1911crazy]

Mikey I would go right now with you guys if the place was open.  I'd bring the dog too and my 45 with his 24 buddies too.  I'm going to hell anyway so I might as well kick some @ss their too.                   BigBill

I would love to go in there at night!!!! Maybe a full moon night.

Go to; http://www.cosmicsociety.com/dudley.htm

Checkout the globules/orbs thats what I have on film too exactly.

[.45 COLT]

Not sure when (if) I'll get there this year, but if it's possible, would love to go with you two. BigBill got me interested in Dudleytown a few months ago, an now I want to see it foe myself. If things work out, maybe we can link up, if not, well, you guys can give a report.

[Loader 3009]

Mikey I would go right now with you guys if the place was open.  I'd bring the dog too and my 45 with his 24 buddies too.  I'm going to hell anyway so I might as well kick some @ss their too.

BigBill, this is precisely the attitude that Satan wants you to have.....an attitude of guilt and hopelessness.  Let me assure you that you are not "going to hell anyway".  What WILL condemn you to hell is the ultimate sin of turning your back on God once you have learned the truth.  You are taking a big chance with your possible eternal life by dabbling in the occult.  Remember the old saying about curiousity killing the the cat?  Well, that goes for people, too.

And just what effect do you think those .45 slugs would have on a spirit being?

I am not addressing these comments to just BigBill; but, to anothers that would be tempted to join in the occult experience.

[444encore]

Silly Gentiles

[bullet maker]

Hi Loader 3009
   I don`t want to sound harsh, but almost every time I read your replies it`s about demons and loosing our soul`s because we seen something out of the ordinary, whats up? Yes there are demon`s, and yes they do materilize to people that`s in the occult, but there is also a passage in the bible that say`s in essence that there are many mystery`s, and that it is not revealed to us, cause we can`t or don`t have the mind to understand.
Therefore we get glimp`s of this or that. For instance Bigfoot. He is not a demon, or a spirit, but a live animal, that has not been catergoried as of yet.
    I think it wonderful that there are unexplained things in this world. That proves to me, that God exist even more so,
bullet maker

[bullet maker]

Mikey I would go right now with you guys if the place was open.  I'd bring the dog too and my 45 with his 24 buddies too.  I'm going to hell anyway so I might as well kick some @ss their too.

BigBill, this is precisely the attitude that Satan wants you to have.....an attitude of guilt and hopelessness.  Let me assure you that you are not "going to hell anyway".  What WILL condemn you to hell is the ultimate sin of turning your back on God once you have learned the truth.  You are taking a big chance with your possible eternal life by dabbling in the occult.  Remember the old saying about curiousity killing the the cat?  Well, that goes for people, too.

And just what effect do you think those .45 slugs would have on a spirit being?

I am not addressing these comments to just BigBill; but, to anothers that would be tempted to join in the occult experience.

 Hey Loader 3009
Do you remeber the Leviathan in the Bible or the Behemoth? these were not spirits or demons, but true monsters, The Behemoth was mentioned in Job 40:15-24, describes him as a large grass-eating beast, with great strength in his loins and belly. He has a tail described as being (Like a cedar) and his bones are like bars of iron. The passages also reveal him to be a swamp-dweller.
bullet maker :twisted:

[444encore]

BulletMaker,
     This is the stuff that legends of dragons came about. In and of itself the discriptions of these beasts is meaningless. As with most of the scriptures it is meant to prove a point. The particular point that Job (as well as all men) should humble himself before God. As even the fiercest and proudest creatures are below Him.
 Job 41:33
On earth there is nothing like him,
Which is made without fear.
34  He beholds every high thing;
He is king over all the children of pride.

 The Bible was not written to be a history book.
Just as Jesus was often frustrated with His deciples for taking literal meaning of His parables instead of understanding the message behind them, God is frustrated with you over this matter.
But no need to worry, you're obviously a gentile and are not expected to understand these things, so you can't be held accountable.

[1911crazy]

Mikey I would go right now with you guys if the place was open.  I'd bring the dog too and my 45 with his 24 buddies too.  I'm going to hell anyway so I might as well kick some @ss their too.

BigBill, this is precisely the attitude that Satan wants you to have.....an attitude of guilt and hopelessness.  Let me assure you that you are not "going to hell anyway".  What WILL condemn you to hell is the ultimate sin of turning your back on God once you have learned the truth.  You are taking a big chance with your possible eternal life by dabbling in the occult.  Remember the old saying about curiousity killing the the cat?  Well, that goes for people, too.

And just what effect do you think those .45 slugs would have on a spirit being?

I am not addressing these comments to just BigBill; but, to anothers that would be tempted to join in the occult experience.

First there's nothing stronger than my belief in my God I find haunted places very interesting like I said before I went into this a non believer and now believe there is something to all what is going on while I'm there.  I'm not turning my back on my God I'm just doing some research? My 45 is for personal protection from anything that comes into my world and wants to harm me or us if i'm not alone.  Should i carry a cross instead??(kidding)  I'm not joining any occult nor worshiping any occult by going there nor denouncing my faith in God I'm just interested in the unexplained and seeking knowledge.
                                                                             BigBill

Its kind of funny I had taken a close friend there who laughed about it before we went and after returning he won't go back there.  I've been laughed at about seeing signs of  mountainlion too in the past and guess what its really there. So what about Bigfoot and aliens are they real or not who's to say for sure just because "We" never seen it personally doesn't mean it isn't real.  Just look at the different new whale that was just found after how many years? I'm hearing something that I never have heard in the wild before.  With so many sightings and reports there has to be something to it. And what about the pyramids in Egypt there is no way they could of been built that accurately and large stones cut and moved without outside help there is a lot of unexplained things that don't make sense.  Maybe our God is an alien?  Its too bad our own goverment has covered it all up about what they know about aliens I guess its about national security  but the russians aren't afraid to release information about them.  I would rather hear it from our own goverment first.  Its like your own close family keeping a secret from you then an outsider tells you that bites.  We need to keep open minds we just never know?   There is so many unanswered questions?                                                        BigBill

[Loader 3009]

Leviathan is another name for the crocodile.  And I will agree that there are probably many creatures in this world that have yet to be discovered....but bigfoot ain't one of them.  If you truly study the occult, you would see the connection between the two. (STUDY not dabble)

In addition to the creatures yet to be discovered, there are forces yet to be discovered.  These forces, or some of them, are revealed to those who understand by God's word.  Some things will be revealed only on Jesus's return.  God speed that day.

The Bible IS a history book.  One third of the Bible deals with history. One third deals with The Law and one third deals with prophecy.

And, yes, bullet maker, I believe that you saw "something".  I have explained before that visions are induced pictures in your mind.  They are planted there by beings that are capable of such.  The Bible gives several accounts of visions initiated by both God and Satan.  Satan gave Jesus a vision when he took him up on the mountain and showed him all the great cities of the world.  Satan offered these cities to Christ.  They were his to give as Satan is the god of this world.  The Bible tells us that.  Satan and his minions inhabit this earth.  They are working against God by lying to us and twisting his words.

Bigfoot sightings and flying saucer sightings have been occurring for hundreds of years.  I have talked with people who have "seen" and interacted with space aliens.  Some have told me that they could sometimes summon these beings.  They didn't even need bacon. (with bacon being an unclean "food", that even has demonic implications)  Doesn't it seem strange that no one has caught any one of these beings?  Especially, now that they are everywhere?  What you are witnessing is a prophecied increase in demonic activity and these websites that you fellows go to in search of truth only exacerbate the problem.

I'll step down, now and relinquish the podium.  Call your next witness.

[444encore]

Mmmm, wow, I really shouldn't respond to this.
But Loader  , If history, law and prophecy are the only things you gather from the bible, than truelly you are better off than me.
 So truelly you and BigBill should not read Ecclesiastes if you wish to stay that way.

[bullet maker]

Hello Loader 3009;
    I`m glad you set 444 encore straight, your right the Bible is a history book, One that he hopes we don`t repeat the same sin`s as the others did.
   Now about the Leviathan. Reports of unknown monsters of the deep have been a part of sea lore for hundreds of years, but very little attention has been paid to such tales until recent years. With more and improved scientific methods of investigation, there is growing evidence that they are more than just a product of early sailors imagination, according to even some secular reseachers.
   More fascinating still is the apparent connection between fossils of prehistoric marine reptiles and the monsters described in the pages of the Bible....Leviathan that wriggling, twisting dragon...is mentioned in the Old Testament four time. Leviathan is described in detail, in Job chapter 41, as a creature of immense strength. In the Hebrew text, he has terrifying, teeth and scales like rows of shields, closely fastened together and hard as stone. He is a resident of the sea, knowing no fear and apparently immune to all man`s weapons.
    Many scholars identify this animal as a crocodile, but as other experts have pointed out, there are several problems with this idea. Although some crocodiles do venture into the coastal area and can swim out to sea, the deep ocean is not their normal habitat. They are found mainly in inland water, where they live in lakes, rivers, swamps and esturaried and breed on the shores. Therefore they would not be described as great beast of the sea (Psalm 104;25-26) Nor are crocodiles so terrifying that no one dares tackle them crocodiles are regularly trapped and killed by native tribes with simple technology
bullet maker

[Loader 3009]

I understand 444encore's statement in his post and his reason for stating same.  He is afraid that some may overlook the message while concentrating on the history.  Some do exactly this.  Others do exactly the opposite.  One must do both.

The Bible is a history of the Israelite people and their interaction with God along with other peoples from their beginning to the end.  I cannot put this in a more simple way.  Within it's pages you will find many examples of the consequences, both incurred or promised, for the failure to adhere to God's laws or instructions.

The Gentiles are non-Israelites.....not non-Jews.  A common mis-conception.  Of the thirteen tribes of Israel, only one was Jews.....Judah.  The others, other than Levi, are known as Israelites or simply Israel.  I said thirteen tribes, not twelve, as Joseph became two tribes with the blessing of his two sons.  These two sons went on to father the two greatest nations this world has ever known.  This is history that should be and will be known to every person on Earth.  One cannot understand Bible prophecy until he ubderstands this.

Hang in there bulet maker, I must leave now.  Just remember my siggy....

[williamlayton]

according to scripture as a believer I have been grafted in to the Jewish vine.
Blesssings

[444encore]

William,
According to the scripture there are 144,000 of the children of Israel who are annointed and are accepted into the kindom of heaven. 77,000 already chosen and 77,000 to come. A Gentile is not expected to know the will of God. So therefore cannot be held accountable since Jesus died for the sins of man. However if a Gentile, not being expected to know the will of God , live's his life according to the will of God, this Gentile is better off than a Jew who is expected to know better. Therefore, such a Gentile shall be resurected and live in paradise on earth. While those Gentiles who are not expected to know the will of God  and don't ,will just cease to exist much the same as those who say they are Jews and are not Jews.
But those children of Israel who are expected to know the will of God and do not follow it, of these shall be punished

[williamlayton]

That is a JW view which I do not agree with. I know the will of God. He explains his will pretty poinblank. Jesus' death, burial and resurection was not a corporate salvation. It was efficient for forgiveness of sin but only effective for those who believe. Believe what? Believe that he was who he said he was! Who is that? The Messiah, Purely the one and only God.
Salvation is GIVEN to those whom the Lord calls and who recieve him and believe. Those are given eternal life. Those who cannot or will not recieve him will spend an eternity in sepreration from God fully realizing what is happening and why. Those that recieve are grafted into the root of Israel.

This concept was taught first in Genisis. Should we proceed on to John 1:1?
Blessings

[444encore]

Um,,,
 No William, this is not a JW view. This is me viewing the bible.
As you first posted, "according to scripture"  not according to preacher.

[williamlayton]

Very simular.
Blessings

[Mikey]

OK Guys, I finally figured it out.  Leviathan is Godzilla.  Now, when do we eat??  Mikey.

[444encore]

Mikey,
 I bet Godzilla is a tough ole bird. You better give him pleanty of time to marinate b'fer you throw him on the skillet.

[bullet maker]

OK Guys, I finally figured it out.  Leviathan is Godzilla.  Now, when do we eat??  Mikey.

 :-D  :-D  :-D  OK, Mikey I`ll go with that one. You guy`s gather up the hickory wood and I`ll fire up the smoker.
bullet maker