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Offline BattleRifleG3

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« on: November 05, 2003, 08:34:51 PM »
I've tended to think that Browning didn't have to finish the BAR lineup with the 338 Win Mag, but that it could have gone longer and done Weatherbies and H&H.  But alas no, the current action is too short.

I was wondering, though, if one could be rebarreled in a regular length cartridge, like the 458 Winchester Magnum.  Yeah, I know, why would you want that in an auto?  Well it would be more comfortable to shoot than a bolt or single shot.  May be practical for game control.  But anyway, what I've understood is that it's the chamber pressure that determines how strong an action needs to be.  My SAAMI specs on 338 and 300 Win Mag pressure are higher than 458, so if I'm right it should work.

What do you guys know about this?  This is the only forum where people have talked much about the current BAR.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2003, 01:39:20 PM »
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I wrote a letter concerning this to Ruger, Remington and Browning almost 20 years ago. If memory is correct, it was Ruger that answered. With a heavier bullet there is not only chamber pressure (which is high in the pipsqueek .223), but also inertial momentum beating the action. A large heavy bullet provides an inertial mass that results in a lot of inertial momentum (rearward energy) being imparted on the recoiling parts during firing. For this reason, the recoil spring strengths and recoiling part masses must be greater with heavier bullets, and a semi for the larger cartridges with heavy bullets is too large for most people to carry comfortably, at least in the sales department's eyes. I would carry a 10 lb semi in .375 or .458 gladly, but apparently the bean counters feel there is not sufficent interest to warrant the development cost. I figure a .45-70, with its low pressures, would allow a firearm along the size of a 10 gage semi auto to be developed, but hey, I'm only a single voice. Sure would be a great firearm in big bear country.

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2003, 01:49:57 PM »
I've thought a 45-70 would ge great in a shotgun style pump or auto.  That and 444 or 450 Marlin.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2003, 08:50:03 PM »
Looking up cartridge specs, I found that 450 Marlin has similar base dimensions to 458.  Suppose it would be feasible in a BAR?
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2003, 10:11:26 AM »
I see no reason why it souldn't.  Browning already chambers their BLR for the .450 Marlin.  Lawdog
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2003, 12:23:16 PM »
Sweeet!  Any BAR owners know how difficult and costly it would be to rebarrel?
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