Author Topic: Why were they protesting at G-20 (Read 1542 times)

Questor · « **on:** September 25, 2009, 03:22:03 AM »

I haven't seen anything in the news about WHY the G-20 protestors were protesting. Do you happen to know? Usually it's idealistic kids protesting for justice and equality, and using the G-20 as an excuse to riot and break windows. Was it any different this time?

gypsyman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:31:10 AM »

Professional protesters, bought and paid for by the liberal left. Don't have a job, lots of time, and no brains. gypsyman

Questor · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:53:37 AM »

I wonder if there's work in being a rent-a-cop for controlling these professional protesters. I'd certainly be willing to make them work for their money. How far do those rubber bullets fly?

beerbelly · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2009, 04:52:36 AM »

My understanding is that they are protesting a global economy. If that is the case, I am on their side. I am against all this global crap! I am not a citizen of the world, I am a citizen of the USA!
Beerbelly

Fazak · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:16:57 AM »

They're protesting because the government is screwing over them about 40 different ways and they're tired of it.

Pretty much the same reason that people are organizing the tea parties.

Everybody who protests has their own reasons,...but if you boil them down to the elements, it's all about the corruption and tyranny of government.

torpedoman · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:35:51 AM »

In was under the impression that Americans had the right to peaceful assembly to protest anything we want to. My question is what are all the cops doing there to prevent it and my next thought is that someone should bring charges of civil right infringement on the city and the police dept involved.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:53:17 AM »

The Police are there because in the past these same peace loving hippie communists have gotten violent and have attacked.
For some reason they think that Capitalism is Bad and exploits the workers and the third world.
What they do not understand is with out the G20 and Capitalism the third world would be either 4th world or a colony of one of the G20.
These are the same people that will protest fossil fuels and how they pollute but then burn down a car dealership and release 8X the pollution into the air all at once. Difinatly not on the waiting list for the Noble prize. But it was given to Al Gore, and has become a Little leage trophy of participation.
They are proof that Communism must come from the barrel of a gun as other wise no one would listen to these granola crunching, unwashed, Dolts!
And while in the US you have the right to freedom of speach, and right to assemble, as well as the right of free association.
You do not have the right to be heard, stop commerce, create a havoc, and block the streets. the left always get that one wrong. Unless it is the Conservitives that are speaking out. Then you only have the right to free speach if you agree with them.
If you want to have a protest you need to Pay for the Police to close streets for you. Much like organizing a parade. You can not just show up with a few convertables, a marching band a a float. If you did show up with your own parade even if it were something everyone could be behind you would probably be charged with a number of offenses.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:57:52 AM »

Just checking.
A plutocrat is someone that thinks the rich should rule.
In other words a Plutocrat thinks if Bill Gates is rich from running Micro soft he should be president.
Is that the word you wanted?

ironglow · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:29:04 PM »

In about 15 years these same silly protestors will have a job & kids and a little house with picket fence..couch potatoeing the weekends. ..But for right now, they are busy making it miserable for the rest of us !

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:54:26 PM »

Worse it could be like the batch we had back in the 60's that hated America and have grown up to become President Clinton and Obama!
And really making it worse for the rest of us.
Stupid Commie dorks!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:24:59 PM »

hanity interviewed some of them

they are protesting capitalism

because some people work harder and earn more

they want capitalims replaced with government [like obama]

and government can distribute other peoples wealth until it is gone

what their plan is after all is re-distributed and gone is beyond their mental capabilities

Fazak · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2009, 02:44:46 PM »

There was various groups with various agendas protesting the G20 summit.

Only a very small fraction of them were associated with the anti capitalist anarchist group, but that's who the Media focused on.

I guess everyone would have preferred that the protestors formed a choir and sang songs in support of Obama?

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:46:17 PM »

I am glad all this BS is over with and Pittsburgh can get back to normal. It would seem that there was only $50,000.00 of damage done to the city. Half of that was done by one person. Like I said in another thread this whole thing was a big pain in the ass for the city of Pittsburgh without much return. Dale

ironglow · « **Reply #13 on:** September 27, 2009, 01:52:48 AM »

Don't ascribe too much nobility to these protesters, the main body of protestors were simply anti-capitalist and pro Socialist/Communist.
The rest came along for the ride, hoping for some violence or perhaps a jewelry or electronics store window to be broken. There probably wasn't an honest, hard working job to be found among them.
I saw 2 female college student supporters interviewed on TV yesterday morning. Those poor girls didn't have a clue about the real world!
Fed, clothed, primped & babied , with all they wanted handed to them, they are now a couple years into college..still living and supposedly studying, all on somebody else's dime. So there they stood, trying to tell the rest of us just how the world should run! .... Spread the wealth, limit each person's wealth, defund the military, equal pay, no matter how productive, the slacker should make just as much as the hard worker putting in 100 hours a week.... The strange thing is they were simply regurgitating the same old crap that has been pounded into their immature minds by their professors.
The same old crap that Marx passed to people like Barack Obama. IMO..those girls, their professors, Marx & Obama all shared one thing in common..none ever held a hard working, get down & get dirty, job in their lives. All lived most of their lives, sucking from somebody else's trough..either their parents or the public's..

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** September 27, 2009, 02:49:09 AM »

Torpedoman;
Yes, people do have the right to assemble and PEACEFULLY address their greivances. Doubt that would continue under Socialism/Marxism. However even under the Constitution, they must "peaceably" assemble and by most local laws they must have a permit and take certain routes. Note: the CNN reporter sais they were waaayy off their permitted route...
Look at the following video and see just how "peaceful" the G20 protests were. I would presume if a whole platoon came dressed in Ninja black with full black hoods over their heads, they may have PLANNED on not being peaceful. Just compare the two protesting groups;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYtgx28eM1Q

Next; the tea baggers; all 1.5 to 2 million of them see photos below

Fazak · « **Reply #15 on:** September 27, 2009, 03:03:25 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on September 27, 2009, 01:52:48 AM

Don't ascribe too much nobility to these protesters, the main body of protestors were simply anti-capitalist and pro Socialist/Communist.

That's the media's angle.

Matt · « **Reply #16 on:** September 27, 2009, 05:41:56 AM »

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For all of you who feel that the protesters had no right to be there...

Go %&@# yourself...

It is the dumbass closed minded jerks such as yourself that has allowed this country to become what it is.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT to protest any damn thing we want as long as we do it peacefully and if you dont like that... well screw you...

The day will come very soon when you will find that you have no rights left becuase you stood by and let them take the rights you felt you did not need.

My final thought on this is that if you have a problem with protesters or protesting then you are not an TRUE AMERICAN.

Matt

Cabin4 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 27, 2009, 05:49:45 AM »

Most of the G20 protestors are communists that hate capitolisam. I agree the governments are practicing tyranny but these idoits actually want more tyranny, they just want their own brand of it.

Tea Party protestors wnat no tyranny of any brand and certainly not the communist, marxist or socialist brand. I rather have capitolisam tyranny than any of the prior mentioned any day. Although of course all tyranny is bad.

Matt · « **Reply #18 on:** September 27, 2009, 05:59:00 AM »

Cabin... was you there? or are you getting your info on who was from the boob tube?

There was well over 100 groups represented at the G20... not saying some of them were not as you say but by far the majority was not.

The theme of this years G20 was world government... all of you who feel that the protesters where wrong must support world government... so do you...

You may as well go out to the shed, grab a shovel and start digging yours and and your families graves... Then stand by your respective holes and wait for the police to come by and push you in....

Matt

Cabin4 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 27, 2009, 06:07:08 AM »

No I was not at the G20 protest. As I said, "most" are or at least most certainly seem to be the communists and socialists. That was clearly the case of the previous meeting. If the mix has changed, and there are a significant number of protesters that are of the non-communist, marxist or socilaist ilk, there not getting much if any coverage.

Do have have states to share?

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #20 on:** September 27, 2009, 06:43:03 AM »

Quote from: Matt on September 27, 2009, 05:41:56 AM

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For all of you who feel that the protesters had no right to be there...

Go %&@# yourself...

It is the dumbass closed minded jerks such as yourself that has allowed this country to become what it is.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT to protest any damn thing we want as long as we do it peacefully and if you dont like that... well screw you...

The day will come very soon when you will find that you have no rights left becuase you stood by and let them take the rights you felt you did not need.

My final thought on this is that if you have a problem with protesters or protesting then you are not an TRUE AMERICAN.

Matt

Good video Matt. The local news only showed a very small clip of that gathering. Dale

ironglow · « **Reply #21 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:04:35 AM »

Tm & Fazak;
  The NPS has already said it was the largest protest crowd ever in DC. Just look at the pictures.

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/912-march-on-washington/

   Much bigger than the vaunted "million man march" or the big queer gathering of a few years ago..and I would opine a lot cleaner after they left.
  If you wonder what they are disgusted with, it is not taxes alone but a panoply of encroachments upon the people's rights.
  I may be mistaken, but you both seem to play down the efforts of these protestors.....folks just like many here on this board!
  Unless you are a dyed-in-the-wool Obamanite or an America hater, why would you turn against these people? Frankly, I would expect you to be four-square on their side..fighting against "big Govt", taxes, encroachments upon gun rights and many other cases for freedom.
   On the other hand, if I am mistaken and you do back these pro-freedom folks..you have my apologies.

ironglow · « **Reply #22 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:11:04 AM »

Please do not forget, the protests were not only in Washington, but in at least 42 cities across the country; plus in many hundreds of thouisands of hearts at home.

http://9-12-09-washington-dc-protest.meetup.com/

Fazak · « **Reply #23 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:17:13 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on September 27, 2009, 07:04:35 AM

Tm & Fazak;
  The NPS has already said it was the largest protest crowd ever in DC. Just look at the pictures.

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/912-march-on-washington/

   Much bigger than the vaunted "million man march" or the big queer gathering of a few years ago..and I would opine a lot cleaner after they left.
  If you wonder what they are disgusted with, it is not taxes alone but a panoply of encroachments upon the people's rights.
  I may be mistaken, but you both seem to play down the efforts of these protestors.....folks just like many here on this board!
  Unless you are a dyed-in-the-wool Obamanite or an America hater, why would you turn against these people? Frankly, I would expect you to be four-square on their side..fighting against "big Govt", taxes, encroachments upon gun rights and many other cases for freedom.
   On the other hand, if I am mistaken and you do back these pro-freedom folks..you have my apologies.

I don't know where you got the idea that I have anything against the tea bag people.

Any protest against our current form of government is a good protest.

My only concern with the tea bag people is, many of them believe that the only problem is the Democratic party.

The problem is the government,...and it doesn't matter whether the government's strings are attached to a Democrat or a Republican.

Only the rhetoric changes.

The country will have to have one more Republican administration before a lot of people reach that conclusion, however.

The Democrats and the swing voters thought a Democrat administration would work to fix the problems which the government has caused.

Obama is showing them that that's not the case.

One more Republican administration will show them that they aren't represented by the GOP either.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:20:38 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on September 27, 2009, 06:57:51 AM

cabin:
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No I was not at the G20 protest. As I said, "most" are or at least most certainly seem to be the communists and socialists.

Who told you that...sean, rush, or glenn..? There were many groups there,,,faith based as well. Who told you that?

Communism and capitalism are now merging into communistic capitalism...which is state run monopoly of elites, plutocrats, oligarchs, royals, or whatever you want to call them..EG..the HC reform now perverted as example of this merger.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Exactly Matt...well said....

..TM7

No TM7, look for yourself. Howard Zinn one of the key organizers of a large group protesting at the g20 (called The Peoples Summit) is a socialist group. Look at the list of other key organizers & speackers include the large workers unions, Green Peace, teachers unions, etc. Let me see some large particiaption from libertarian or US constitution groups and I may change my perception. Look at the organizing groups in the UK who protested on the same days in solidarity with the Pittsburg protesters. More socialists & eco nazi groups.

While many of these groups may share some common threads with libertarian and constitution organizations, I'm not sure they are protesting for the same end outcome. Convince me I'm wrong, give me something to consider. I can change my mind but it will be with facts.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:27:33 AM »

Quote from: Fazak on September 27, 2009, 07:17:13 AM

Quote from: ironglow on September 27, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
Tm & Fazak;
  The NPS has already said it was the largest protest crowd ever in DC. Just look at the pictures.

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/912-march-on-washington/

   Much bigger than the vaunted "million man march" or the big queer gathering of a few years ago..and I would opine a lot cleaner after they left.
  If you wonder what they are disgusted with, it is not taxes alone but a panoply of encroachments upon the people's rights.
  I may be mistaken, but you both seem to play down the efforts of these protestors.....folks just like many here on this board!
  Unless you are a dyed-in-the-wool Obamanite or an America hater, why would you turn against these people? Frankly, I would expect you to be four-square on their side..fighting against "big Govt", taxes, encroachments upon gun rights and many other cases for freedom.
   On the other hand, if I am mistaken and you do back these pro-freedom folks..you have my apologies.

My only concern with the tea bag people is, many of them believe that the only problem is the Democratic party.

Fazak,

The protestrs I have particiapted in I'm not seeing people protesting against the dems. They are protesting against big government tyranny. It just so happens that the obama admin has taken this concern to a new level. I could care less about the republican party. Both parties are deplorable but I think the dems are significantly worse.

I don't join a protest becasue I share a common thread with them. I join because I share the thread(s) and the end desirded state. You will never see me protest with Green Peace or any other communist or socialist group just because I like something in thier tactical apparoch.

Fazak · « **Reply #26 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:31:37 AM »

As the economy and living conditions continue to deteriorate in America, you're going to see more and more diversity among the people who protest the actions of government.

Matt · « **Reply #27 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:34:20 AM »

Ok I agree those who were protesting the NWO did not get much of “Obama’s Media” coverage. But let’s also look at the march on DC... Again everyone was said to be "Crazy, Nuts, Radical, Extremist" and so on. THEY WERE NOT... the numbers have been scaled WAY down in an attempt to demean the cause. Until some of you folks get it through your thickass skulls that the media is bought and paid for by those very same people pushing us into a New World Order you will never be able to see the truth of what is happening right here right now.

Folks we are about to lose the greatest country ever and most of you are sitting on your hands, looking up in the air and saying... who me... nah I don’t mind... do whatever you need to do to keep me safe from all those Crazy Radical Extremist Nuts...

It sickens me the way some of the members here think. You guys think that if it does not affect you then who cares... or if you don’t like it others should not have the right to do it... Why?....

If the masses cannot get past the "Political Blindfold" that they have covering their eyes then it shall soon be replaced by the executioners’ hood. The ruling class cares nothing about us and we are simply pawns to be played with... most of us are complacent with this and jump right to the square they say. There are a few who resist but are then labeled crack pots, conspiracy nuts, extremist and the like. Well guys and gals there is a movement afoot and it is gaining ground and numbers. It is made up of the average joe and jane who has had it with the federal government usurping their God given rights.

If people would wake up and realize that even if it don’t affect them they need to stand up for the next mans rights and stop being so willing to allow another man’s rights to be tread upon.

Whether it ever really was or not this country was established on the idea of a “Free Society” whereas the “People” had the right to Freedom, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and along with that came “Security & Privacy”. Why not stand up for the guy next to you… There are way more of us than them and the sooner folks understand what that means the sooner we can take back our country.

The reason for my first post was it does not matter what they are protesting for or against it is their right to do so and every single person on this site should understand, respect and support the right of them to protest… after all very soon it will be us protesting a new gun ban...

Matt

Fazak · « **Reply #28 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:40:01 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on September 27, 2009, 07:27:33 AM

Quote from: Fazak on September 27, 2009, 07:17:13 AM
Quote from: ironglow on September 27, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
Tm & Fazak;
  The NPS has already said it was the largest protest crowd ever in DC. Just look at the pictures.

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/912-march-on-washington/

   Much bigger than the vaunted "million man march" or the big queer gathering of a few years ago..and I would opine a lot cleaner after they left.
  If you wonder what they are disgusted with, it is not taxes alone but a panoply of encroachments upon the people's rights.
  I may be mistaken, but you both seem to play down the efforts of these protestors.....folks just like many here on this board!
  Unless you are a dyed-in-the-wool Obamanite or an America hater, why would you turn against these people? Frankly, I would expect you to be four-square on their side..fighting against "big Govt", taxes, encroachments upon gun rights and many other cases for freedom.
   On the other hand, if I am mistaken and you do back these pro-freedom folks..you have my apologies.

My only concern with the tea bag people is, many of them believe that the only problem is the Democratic party.

Fazak,

The protestrs I have particiapted in I'm not seeing people protesting against the dems. They are protesting against big government tyranny. It just so happens that the obama admin has taken this concern to a new level. I could care less about the republican party. Both parties are deplorable but I think the dems are significantly worse.

I don't join a protest becasue I share a common thread with them. I join because I share the thread(s) and the end desirded state. You will never see me protest with Green Peace or any other communist or socialist group just because I like something in thier tactical apparoch.

The situation in America will soon push any protest other than a universal protest against tyranny out of the picture.

People are going to be out of work, out of money, out of their homes and out of luck.

That's essentially what the protests are about right now, but they haven't gotten in full swing yet.

Once they do, the government will pull out all the stops,...and there will be no mystery about its true nature for anybody.

We're just seeing hints of it right now.

Having LRAD used against a small, peaceful group of protesters is a fairly strong hint of what the government has planned for us.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:45:18 AM »

Matt,

My point is most of the majority groups protesting at the G20 would take away our guns in a nano second, they beleive that health care is "right" and they support redistribution of wealth and the Fairness Doctrine. Please help me understand why I should support groups like this? Am I missing something?

I have no illusions of whats going on in this country and around the world. I just question weather these groups allign with my thoughts or if they are not actually supporters of a single NWO. From what I see, and it may not be everything, they appears to be the same ilk.

Of course they have a right to protest.