Author Topic: Not all news is bad news! (Read 3857 times)

Cement Man · « **Reply #30 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:00:35 AM »

To me it is a life at conception - that's my belief. But IIRC several states have charged people with two counts when someone has murdered a pregnant woman, so apparently the law considers an unborn child to be a life at some point.

rex6666 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:05:16 AM »

This is a tough read.
I am against abortion.
Tiller was evidently not breaking the "law of the land" or would have been stopped long ago, i can't dis agree that he needed to be stopped.
I also have to think about "taking the law into ones own hands" no one
has that right. we seem to agree that no one person can adminster the law
What Tiller was doing was wrong, but so was the man that killed him.
no matter how you call it, it is bad alway around.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #32 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:07:43 AM »

Lets get down to facts a dead sperm can't fetilize a dead egg . If both are alive then what they make is alive .

Cement Man · « **Reply #33 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:14:43 AM »

I don't favor abortion or murder either. I'd have been glad to serve on his jury if he had been tried - but they wouldn't let me sit on it. I already flunked jury selection once over the abortion issue. A bunch of protesters were arrested, I was on jury duty and I told them if I had known about what they did, I would have joined them.

Can't forget also, that if he aborted 60,000 babies - there were likely over 100,000 others in full complicity. (Not sure about dads and parents, sometimes they don't know.)

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:25:19 AM »

the only place i exact judgement is if my household or if family threatened... otherwise just be glad you ain t the judge...
heck of a responcibility..ive ask myself ..if i had a chance before ww2 to put a bullet in hitlers head.. would i have done it..assuming i knew the evil he would do....slim
i ll keep my decision to myself..

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #35 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:28:37 AM »

sometimes men do the wrong thing for the right reason !

newstart2k · « **Reply #36 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:18:02 AM »

Just as a note to any Non-christians reading this that were thinking of becoming a Christian UNTIL they read this. You don't get into heaven OR hell based on your works in this life.

bubba · « **Reply #37 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:24:30 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on June 02, 2009, 01:42:44 AM

Quote from: bubba on June 02, 2009, 12:22:55 AM
I find this amusing. A few weeks ago you guys were all up in arms (pun intended) about the govt taking away freedoms and liberties. Now a Man is killed for a moral issue and you praise the killer. What about the Drs right to life liberty and the persuit of happiness or doesn't his matter? I guess those rights are only for whom you select them to be? Sounds pretty hypocritical to me to say you can kill anyone who does not agree with you morally and it is ok. What happened to judge not lest ye be judged? Let the innocent one cast the first stone. This is just fuel again for the antis fire since the guy was killed with a gun and you now praise the killer. I guess my question would be What would Jesus Do. My guess is not kill him. Whether or not life begins at conception or at birth is a personal belief and the legal issue is not ours to decide individually nor is it our job to take the law into our own hands. The Dr was not doing anything illegal immoral yes, but where in the law does it say you can kill someone for a moral issue without a trial by his peers? Typical "Christians" If you feel so strongly this man deserved to die, why didnt one of you go do it then in the name of christianity? It seems ot me that I read in the bible something about 10 commandments and one of them being Thou Shall Not Kill. It does not say thou shall not kill unless the guy is doing something you dont like. What next it will be ok to kill someone because they wear the wrong color shirt? So much for a free republic.

Are you for or against the death penalty? I consider this no more than another murderer getting his just desert.

And Dukk, I still bet you would love to have me on a jury if you werethis guys pleader.

I am for the death penalty after ones jury or peers has convicted them and a judge sentences them to death. I also believe that once a person is sentenced to death, it should happen right then not after 20 years of appeals. However I still can notbelieve you advocate for the drs rights to be taken away bebecause he did something you believe is wrong especially when you so passionately stated that no ones rights should be taken away. In my eyes that makes you a hypocrite and certainly not a christian
Either you believe in the rights or you dont you cant pick and choose

bubba · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:33:32 AM »

umm I did quote it it is there you sai dit was just a mrrderer getting his with no trial or sentencing. You know wjhat yo usaid in both this one and the what if they come and get your guns posts. Like I said on one you say no one can take away ruights then on the next you cheer a guy who took away rights and committed murder.

bubba · « **Reply #39 on:** June 02, 2009, 10:48:50 AM »

ok now you are worrying me. Hero for murdering someone because they disagree with you I think someone in History murdered people who disagreed with him. His name was Hitler. And when did you get appointed to decide whos rights are good and whos arent. I never saw such a two sided argument. One argument for rights the next against. Waht next will be justification for murder? Step a step away from the glue pot next time cuz it is taking its toll on you. I am out because it is imposible to have a rational conversation with someone so irrational. If it was such a right thing to do, why didnt you go shoot him? Not enough stones to do the jail time but wiling to praise others for it?

JonnyC · « **Reply #40 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:50:20 PM »

Several of you know that there has been an addition to our family. A Haitian baby boy. He is now a little under 2 months old.
Billy answer a question. At what age is a child no longer a precious gift from God? You claim to be a Christian and you are against abortion: however you called our gift from God a tar baby. You have also sent me emails about my other minority children suggesting everything from using velcro to keep them in place to wetting their lips and sticking them to the wall and so on.
So Billy- why do you call babies and children such despicable names ?

Swampman · « **Reply #41 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:58:20 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on June 02, 2009, 10:40:40 AM

Defece of the lives of the innocent is not murder. I hope and pray the jury pardons this hero for his defence of the innocent.

Does anyone have a link where we can donate to this brave mans legal defence fund?

I'm guessing you support the religious fanatic who shot 2 Army recruiters in Arkansaw as well? We all know the military kills innocents from time to time.

crustaceous · « **Reply #42 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:42:20 PM »

How many cowards whose hearts are all as false as stairs of sand, wear yet upon their chins The beards of Hercules and frowning Mars, Who inward searched, have livers white as milk!"
William Shakespeare

Swampman · « **Reply #43 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:44:29 PM »

billy_56081, I think the dead doctor is a better person than you are.

nomosendero · « **Reply #44 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:46:20 PM »

JonnyC, your kidding I assume

Swampman · « **Reply #45 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:50:37 PM »

Quote from: JonnyC on June 02, 2009, 01:50:20 PM

Several of you know that there has been an addition to our family. A Haitian baby boy. He is now a little under 2 months old.
Billy answer a question. At what age is a child no longer a precious gift from God? You claim to be a Christian and you are against abortion: however you called our gift from God a tar baby. You have also sent me emails about my other minority children suggesting everything from using velcro to keep them in place to wetting their lips and sticking them to the wall and so on.
So Billy- why do you call babies and children such despicable names ?

If this is true, billy_56081 needs to go.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #46 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:58:38 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on June 02, 2009, 03:50:37 PM

Quote from: JonnyC on June 02, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
Several of you know that there has been an addition to our family. A Haitian baby boy. He is now a little under 2 months old.
Billy answer a question. At what age is a child no longer a precious gift from God? You claim to be a Christian and you are against abortion: however you called our gift from God a tar baby. You have also sent me emails about my other minority children suggesting everything from using velcro to keep them in place to wetting their lips and sticking them to the wall and so on.
So Billy- why do you call babies and children such despicable names ?

If this is true, billy_56081 needs to go.

I like Billy and don't want to see him go. There are two sides to every story. Do you even have a clue what Johny C said to him in a PM? Besides they are adults and can work it out. Dale

bubba · « **Reply #47 on:** June 02, 2009, 04:01:20 PM »

were does it say in the billof rights you can kill a person in cold blood for having a different moral value? You are condoning it. You may want to read roe vs wade. Abortion is legal immoral yes illegal no come back to reality

powderman · « **Reply #48 on:** June 02, 2009, 04:10:53 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on June 02, 2009, 03:44:29 PM

billy_56081, I think the dead doctor is a better person than you are.

SWAMPMAN. Tiller was no dr, he was a butcher, simple as that. For you to say he was a better man than BILLY is a terrible insult, you should be ashamed of yourself. Tiller murdered over 60,000 babies, SIXTY THOUSAND. You owe BILLY an apology Sir. How would you handle being in the same room with a man that you knew would kill a dz or more babies the next day??? I feel sorry for the 60,000 human beings this scum murdered, and for the man who pulled the trigger believing he was defending life. Truth be known there are babies alive today because of him. Abortion is murder and should be stopped NOW. The killer was wrong, but tiller and his ilk need stopped somehow. POWDERMAN.

bubba · « **Reply #49 on:** June 02, 2009, 04:13:27 PM »

I am stil waiting for answers to all I have asked Billy where are they?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #50 on:** June 02, 2009, 04:26:44 PM »

What a nice liberal tactic, answer a question with a question, I bet your savior BHO would be proud.

nomosendero · « **Reply #51 on:** June 02, 2009, 04:39:06 PM »

Quote from: DALESCARPENTRY on June 02, 2009, 03:58:38 PM

Quote from: Swampman on June 02, 2009, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: JonnyC on June 02, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
Several of you know that there has been an addition to our family. A Haitian baby boy. He is now a little under 2 months old.
Billy answer a question. At what age is a child no longer a precious gift from God? You claim to be a Christian and you are against abortion: however you called our gift from God a tar baby. You have also sent me emails about my other minority children suggesting everything from using velcro to keep them in place to wetting their lips and sticking them to the wall and so on.
So Billy- why do you call babies and children such despicable names ?

If this is true, billy_56081 needs to go.
I like Billy and don't want to see him go. There are two sides to every story. Do you even have a clue what Johny C said to him in a PM? Besides they are adults and can work it out. Dale

Correct, they are adults but I just kinda doubt this deal & an accusation should not be left alone.

Questor · « **Reply #52 on:** June 02, 2009, 05:05:37 PM »

I never thought I'd live to see the day we would have an exchange like that on this forum.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 02, 2009, 05:10:03 PM »

My feelings exactly Q! I think a few here are just trying to stir the pot.

nomosendero · « **Reply #54 on:** June 02, 2009, 06:07:58 PM »

No, I think someone stretched things, I have a reason to say it & I will say no more. Should be dropped.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 02, 2009, 06:24:00 PM »

The someone who said they were leaving after a few jokes about his president, the same someone that tried to bait me with a few e-mails?

Matt · « **Reply #56 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:32:17 PM »

powderman, I understand you like to use big words every now and then but you should make sure to use the right ones when you do.

Main Entry:
geno•cide
Pronunciation:
\ˈje-nə-ˌsīd\
Function:
noun
Date:
1944
: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

Which is exactly what the nazi’s were doing and is illegal by the way to whomever it was that said it wasn’t

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sometimes men do the wrong thing for the right reason !

I really dont think that can apply here just yet if at all. The reason I say this is we dont know all the details yet or who did it... I am not as quick to blame the first man they say did it... but here is another good saying for you: "More often than not men do stupid things for no good reason."

bubba... you and I pretty much are on the same page on this one.

Billy... dude... you are a sick twisted fella... I worry about the safety of people around you... Maybe I should be a good citizen and report you to DHS as a possible “Domestic Terrorist” then maybe you could get to see the system you love so much in action first hand. I personally think you are a racist prick but hey I also believe strongly that it is your right to be one if that is what makes you happy. You are not alone in this as there are several others here that I think are also racist but again whatever makes you happy.
Oh and as far as finding in the Bill of Rights comment… you seem to be confused as usual … the Bill of Rights says that what you are cheering for is wrong… but then again you are not the sharpest crayon in the box.

My personal opinion on the matter having lost 3 babies due to miscarriage is that the fetus does not become a “Life” until well into the cycle. For the dead sperm / dead egg analogy, well of course not but at the same time a plant is alive but that don’t stop us from killing them along with any animal we so choose. Living tissue is not a “Life” it is a form of life and in its basic form. A body is only a vessel for which we use in this plane of existence to hold our “Life Force”. It is perfectly plausible that the “Life Force” is not transferred into the vessel until such a time that it is able to sustain it with minimal help from the mother seeing as many more miscarriages happen in the early trimesters. It would only make sense that God would know this as well and not send the Life Force to a vessel that was not ready for it now would it… that would be like trying to pour your (insert drink of choice) into a glass while they were still making it. For those who think the body can’t be alive without a Life Force… let’s consider those who are on life support but yet are brain dead… do you think that the soul is trapped there until they pull the plug? I don’t I think they have already left and most likely would be right beside those visiting but hey that is just me…

Now as to the accusations against Billy, if it happened all that has to be done is the PM reported to me via the report to admin feature and Billy will be gone… Though it is his right to be a racist prick it is also my right to kick his ass off this site. Now I would not put it past him to think such… I’m just not sure he is stupid or arrogant enough to send a PM such as this on GBO but who knows… its Billy.

Matt

billy_56081 · « **Reply #57 on:** June 02, 2009, 09:42:33 PM »

Matt, I as asked by you have not posted anything to Jinny C on GBO. Jonny C emails me on my personal email over and over and over. I find him to be my own personal internet stalker. While I admit after recieveing his constant Emails I have taken the liberty of having some fun with Jonny. If anyone here actuallly knew me and my family history they would not call me a racist.

bubba · « **Reply #58 on:** June 03, 2009, 12:22:16 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on June 02, 2009, 04:26:44 PM

What a nice liberal tactic, answer a question with a question, I bet your savior BHO would be proud.

Aliberal tactic that is hilarious. I bet I am more conservative than you are. Plus in the post above I did answer. you are the one who seems to avoid everything I say. Do the voices in your head tell you to do that As I said I am out no rationalizing with an irrational person. I asked if it was such a grat thing to pop this dr why didnt you do it no response. I asked who promoted you to decide who lives and who dies because they disagree with your beliefs no response. Look back but this time read them it might help. I really think this thread was started to start again another big controversy on here to fuel one demented persons need for crap. I will tell you what Billy if you calle dmy children names I would eliminate you using the same logic you do for the dr you disagree with me so you deserve to die. Matt I am glad to see we agree lol. That just shows me there is hope for me.

JonnyC · « **Reply #59 on:** June 03, 2009, 01:06:00 AM »

IT'S TRUE. BILLY HIMSELF DOESN'T DENY IT. There may be 2 sides to every story, but calling children the things he does is inexcusable. Here are some quotes from Billy [ Billy says 1.calling minority children- tar babies etc., another 2. “ Hey there is a site for free KFC coupons maybe you can feed ur lil nigglets some yard bird 3. So what do you do with your crack babys when you go out? “Wet their lips and stick them to the wall?”] is having a little fun. This shows the true Billy.