Author Topic: If you were going to buy a new timber tramping handgun in .22LR (Read 16427 times)

buckweet · « **Reply #30 on:** February 27, 2009, 02:42:24 PM »

Quote from: LEO on February 25, 2009, 03:37:25 PM

Well, up until last year I would have voted for the Ruger Semi-auto or the single six, have both love them. But my woods bumming choice of late is becoming my Glock with a 22 conversion kit. The handgun is very light, plenty accurate and easy to carry. Of course you are limited to long rifle cartridges but you can single feed shot shells, they feed through the magazine but do not cycle the slide. I guess the same could be said for CB longs but I haven't tried them so I am just guessing. Shorts will not work but I don't see this as a problem as shorts are more expensive nowadays than LRs are anyway and really aren't that much quiter and usually less accurate out of a handgun than LR rounds and since you specified in your post 22LR I assume shorts and cbs and such are not of intrest to you anyway. Another advantage to the Glock conversion is that if I had a need to I could carry the slide assembly and magazines and also have a centerfire handgun available without the weight of a second handgun. My particular Glock Conversion Kit is the Advantage Arms Kit and I have had no problems at all out of it and as I specified it is plenty accurate for taking squirells out to 25 yards or so, maybe farther in more capable hands.

tell me more about this glock conversion ? i have a glock 17L, would make a gret .22 i thinks.

weet

LEO · « **Reply #31 on:** February 28, 2009, 08:12:57 AM »

The kit I have is from Advantage arms it is a replacement slide assembly and magazine obviously, it has the Glock adjustable sights but you could change them to any Glock sight. I purchased it new for about 230 bucks. It was orignally purchased as a way for cheap practice with the Glock but once I got to shooting it I found that it was accurate enough for woods roaming/kit gun type duties. I shoot the bulk pack Remington Golden Bullets out of mine and it has functioned fine with them. I have no complaints with the kit it is high quality and performs better than advertised. The reason it works so well as a woods roaming/kit gun is the alloy slide is very light. I haven't weighed mine but I would guess that it is less than 20 ounces loaded. Which is not bad for a full size handgun with the full sight radius and good sights. I think Advantage Arms has a web site with all the models listed. Hope this helps

Hank08 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2009, 10:22:52 AM »

Hard to beat the Bearcat once you get the sights adjusted.to you.
H08

Country Boy · « **Reply #33 on:** March 04, 2009, 06:11:08 AM »

After a lot of loooking and shooting at the range, I bought a Tarus 94. Shoots great, carries well and no problems with it.

WolfTrap · « **Reply #34 on:** March 04, 2009, 06:55:43 AM »

Quote from: S.B. on February 07, 2009, 06:23:39 PM

What would it be, revolver or semi auto or break open and why?
Steve

SB,
I can only surmise the use of a 22LR while U R timber jaunting:
Snake Country?
Rabid Squirrel County?
Rabid Skunk Country?
Rat infested woods?
Only one type of 22LR firearm would suit me......double action SS revolver loaded upped with SHOT!
And that's with comfortable cross-draw rig for snap action response!
Have a pleasant walk,
WT

Bigeasy · « **Reply #35 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:22:40 AM »

For just walking around in the woods, I like my Bearcat, and my Smith 4 inch K-22. As of late, I have been carrying a Walther P-22 semi auto. Its light, compact, fits in my back pocket comfortably, has adj. sights, and is more accurate then it should be with the Remington "Golden Bullet" load. A lot of gun for the money.

Larry

teamnelson · « **Reply #36 on:** March 04, 2009, 10:42:18 AM »

Quote from: Country Boy on March 04, 2009, 06:11:08 AM

After a lot of loooking and shooting at the range, I bought a Tarus 94. Shoots great, carries well and no problems with it.

Picking up a 94 5" on Friday I traded for with another GBO'er. It's been on island a week now, but dang HI gun laws ...

WolfTrap · « **Reply #37 on:** March 04, 2009, 10:52:30 AM »

Quote from: Bigeasy on March 04, 2009, 09:22:40 AM

Walther P-22 semi auto. Its light, compact, fits in my back pocket comfortably, has adj. sights, and is more accurate then it should be with the Remington "Golden Bullet" load. A lot of gun for the money.

Larry

BE,
Good friend of mine was carrying his MKII in his back pocket and went off. Nearly bled to death while driving himself from the field to hospital! Went into shock in fronts steps of ER.
I told him he was way too lucky!
WT

Bigeasy · « **Reply #38 on:** March 04, 2009, 05:58:23 PM »

Wolftrap -

The Walther has an exposed hammer / transfer bar safety. I wouldnt carry a striker fired auto like the Ruger that way... My butt is way to big of a target..

Larry

KAYR1 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:32:27 AM »

For sheer durability, reliability and functionality, I'd choose my Ruger Single Six. It is a convertible, but shoots .22LR very acccurately. I liek the adjustable sights on my Single six, as it allows sighting for different loads.

S.B. · « **Reply #40 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:55:13 AM »

Bigeasy, Strike one, against the Ruger?
Steve

WolfTrap · « **Reply #41 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:55:50 AM »

Quote from: Bigeasy on March 04, 2009, 05:58:23 PM

Wolftrap -

The Walther has an exposed hammer / transfer bar safety. I wouldnt carry a striker fired auto like the Ruger that way... My butt is way to big of a target..

Larry

Bigeasy · « **Reply #42 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:20:35 AM »

S.B. -

Not at all. The Ruger auto's are great pistols. Its just they should be carried in holsters for maximum safety. All handguns should really. I have a Mark 2 with a bull barrel and a 2X scope I use all the time for small game hunting. Just like something smaller when I am just out strolling through the woods...

Larry

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #43 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:24:59 AM »

Larry what length bbl do you have , I saw one that had a threded bbl and thought it would be nice to have but didn't know how well it shot

S.B. · « **Reply #44 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:49:06 AM »

Quote from: Bigeasy on March 05, 2009, 10:20:35 AM

S.B. -

Not at all. The Ruger auto's are great pistols. Its just they should be carried in holsters for maximum safety. All handguns should really. I have a Mark 2 with a bull barrel and a 2X scope I use all the time for small game hunting. Just like something smaller when I am just out strolling through the woods...

Larry

Larry, don't misunderstand me, I wouldn't carry one in a holster with a round in the chamber but, they're great on the target range?
Steve

44 Man · « **Reply #45 on:** March 05, 2009, 03:19:35 PM »

S. B. since you are nervous about carrying a round in the chamber apparently you don't know how the safety works. It's up for on safe, down to fire. Do you not carry a round in the chamber on any of the guns you own when carrying? I hope you do not carry a defensive gun that way. I know, the army taught people who were not familiar with guns to carry them that way, saying there's lots of time to chamber a round when you need it. How do you do that when you are holding your daughter out of harms way as you reach for your gun as that man comes at you with a knife! Simple solution. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. Back in the 50's the French in Africa were issued the Browning Hi Power. Because of it's small safety, they would carry it with a round in the chamber, the hammer cocked, and the safety off. Never had a problem. Why? Because they were all well trained to keep their finger out of the trigger guard until they needed to fire the weapon. Sorry, nothing personal intended, just use a gun as it was designed to be used and remember that most owner's manuals were written by lawyers, not shooters. 44 Man.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #46 on:** March 06, 2009, 02:18:39 AM »

well said 44

S.B. · « **Reply #47 on:** March 06, 2009, 02:54:24 AM »

Quote from: 44 Man on March 05, 2009, 03:19:35 PM

S. B. since you are nervous about carrying a round in the chamber apparently you don't know how the safety works. It's up for on safe, down to fire. Do you not carry a round in the chamber on any of the guns you own when carrying? I hope you do not carry a defensive gun that way. I know, the army taught people who were not familiar with guns to carry them that way, saying there's lots of time to chamber a round when you need it. How do you do that when you are holding your daughter out of harms way as you reach for your gun as that man comes at you with a knife! Simple solution. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. Back in the 50's the French in Africa were issued the Browning Hi Power. Because of it's small safety, they would carry it with a round in the chamber, the hammer cocked, and the safety off. Never had a problem. Why? Because they were all well trained to keep their finger out of the trigger guard until they needed to fire the weapon. Sorry, nothing personal intended, just use a gun as it was designed to be used and remember that most owner's manuals were written by lawyers, not shooters. 44 Man.

Personally, I just don't trust Ruger semi autos and yes, I know how the manual says to carry them. I have a close friend who was an Army MP during Vietnam and he was taught to carry his 1911 with a round chambered and the hammer at half cock? Old habits die hard and now he starts every IPSC he shoots this way.
Steve

Bigeasy · « **Reply #48 on:** March 06, 2009, 12:55:18 PM »

Shootall-

I would guess the barrel on the Walther is about 3 1/2. Its got a decent double action trigger, a real nice single action pull, good adjust. sights, and I like the different replaceable back straps that allow you to fit it to your hand. I can keep a group about the size of my fist at 25 yards. Not bad for a compact little auto. If I feel the need, I usually carry a short barrel .44 spec. / mag. when in moose country.

The thing with a good holster is it should keep the gun far away enough from your body that if it goes off, it will miss you. I love my .45 auto's, and carry them cocked and locked, but always use a holster that places a retention strap between the frame and the hammer. The only striker fired autos I really feel comfortable carrying is the Glock, but thats just me. Like I said, I own and use several Ruger autos for tree rat huntiong, I just make sure they are in a proper holster..

The pic below is 2 of my favorite "back pocket" guns for woods walking.

Larry

teamnelson · « **Reply #49 on:** March 06, 2009, 01:07:50 PM »

Picked up my Taurus 94 5" today - wood grips sure are purty! Some day the Navy will move me back to a place where I can carry it as God intended. I'd love to try it out on the 5# bufos that seem to prefer my backyard, but the neighbors might complain.

S.B. · « **Reply #50 on:** March 06, 2009, 01:54:22 PM »

5# bufos?
Steve

teamnelson · « **Reply #51 on:** March 06, 2009, 03:27:14 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on March 06, 2009, 01:54:22 PM

5# bufos?
Steve

Hawaiian for bullfrog - big ones. Portugese folk say they taste like chicken, but some dogs get sick if they bite the frog so we kill all we find.

WolfTrap · « **Reply #52 on:** March 09, 2009, 11:10:39 AM »

Quote from: TeamNelson on March 06, 2009, 03:27:14 PM

Quote from: S.B. on March 06, 2009, 01:54:22 PM
5# bufos?
Steve

Hawaiian for bullfrog - big ones. Portugese folk say they taste like chicken, but some dogs get sick if they bite the frog so we kill all we find.

We hunt upped a mess of Bulls for my Dad in the 50's and he would only grill the legs. Really didn't dig the legs myself, but........trout....baked....

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #53 on:** March 11, 2009, 12:24:32 AM »

if you talkin hunting an you carrying a rifle ,my little no name that i can find italian made 22 revolver single action.. if you hiking in big timber much bigger hand gun,is called for, jmo..

Hank08 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:49:22 AM »

FWIW, Ruger .22 autos have the standard setup of mainspring, strut, hammer and firing pin, just enclosed where you can't see them.
None that i know off are striker fired. Strikers are a whole different setup.
H08

rev22 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 14, 2009, 04:38:49 PM »

I bought a taurus 94 didn't like the trigger to stiff in double action traded the 94 for a smith model 36-1 and bought a new smith model 63 with a 5" barrel it is the ultimate woods walking RF revolver.

Old Griz · « **Reply #56 on:** March 15, 2009, 06:08:59 AM »

Like many, I like the revolver for its dependability. For a woods gun I would love to have a 3" S&W 317, however, the price is out of sight. So for now I'll stick with my Ruger SP101 (4" .22LR). It shoots any and everything.

Olav · « **Reply #57 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:25:18 AM »

For durability:

For easy carry:

The little Walther is the most accurate gun, buth the Smith is easier to shoot because its bigger.
What I choose when Im heading for the woods, depends of my mood when I open my gun safe

Both will serve me well.

Brett · « **Reply #58 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:46:27 AM »

Olav,
What model is that little Smith revolver of yours? Put a set of Brazilian hardwood grips on it and it wood look just like my Taurus old model 94 made before they changed the ejector rod shroud to a heavy full length shroud. And of course the Taurus is a nine shot and I presume that your Smith is a six shooter.

Old Griz · « **Reply #59 on:** March 21, 2009, 03:14:31 PM »

Now if I had more money than I knew what to do with, THIS would be my "timber tramping" .22 . . .

www.usfirearms.com/cat/12-22.asp