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Re: The Sense of Evil.
« Reply #150 on: November 22, 2010, 12:43:48 AM »
i have read this thread with enthusiasm this morning. i am a firm believer in a whole world of things we can't see or understand out there. while coming home from church one day we took a different way home than normal. dad pointed to a road and said that there was an evil feeling down that road, but we didn't take it home that day. on night while headed  home from work i decided to take a detour down that road and see if i could feel what he was talking about. when i got to that road i really did not feel anything. i got near to the end of the road where the creek is that the road got its name from and i felt something load up on my chest. i could not see the thing but i could tell exactly where it was off of the road. when i got home i told dad where i had felt this evil thing and what i had felt. he hadn't told me where it was located just that it was on that road. i was riding with him shortly after and we went to see if it was there and it wasn't. i went again and it was there and got in my back seat.  when i got the road perpindicular to my road, i told this evil thing very plainly that this was as far as it was going to go with me. i saw about twenty five yards or so to my right a bright ball go about five feet and then disapear. i haven't visited this spot since that night. my occupation is as a medical lab technician. between lab school and my boards, i worked as a lab assistant which was basically a glorified phlebotomist that got hands on in the actual lab test. i had to go a couple of codes in those days and saw quite a few people die. with some but not all, i could feel a presence in the room other than the  people working the code with me. not sure if it was the angel of death or not but it was definitely something there.

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« Reply #151 on: February 23, 2011, 11:30:02 PM »
  I had a weird experience many years ago on a ski weekend at a friends lodge at Rutland Vermont.I was with 2 other couples and my girlfriend Jackie at the time and she was known to have "the gift or "the sight"( or whatever you want to call it)..
  The house was located on a real snowy back road way off the beaten track . After dinner and many drinks we all decided to take a long snowy moonlight walk down the road as it was a clear calm starry Vermont night.
   There was a smaller abandoned logging road that branched the road we were on and we all decided to go explore it. We went in maybe 50 yards and suddenly with no warning Jackie spins around and at a dead run hauls outta there with me in hot pursuit calling out to her to stop which she did not do till half way back to the house.
   When I finally caught up..she was breathless and pretty freaked out.When I finally got her (and myself)calmed down she told me "someone died there-I felt  death"   I never did find out the history of that logging rd. but Jackie was know to have other such similar experiences.

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« Reply #152 on: February 24, 2011, 01:55:37 AM »
Interesting time for this to come back up :).

Not 3 days ago I was riding along with my sister and 2 nieces.  My sister was driving, one niece 2.5 years old was in the back awake, and another 5 months old was sleeping.  It was just after dark.

Just going along, all is normal, and all of a sudden my 2.5 year old niece starts yelling "The bird!  I see a bird Momma!".  My sister asks back to her and my niece says "Is the bird gonna get us?"  My sister started to just talk to her a bit to calm her down when all of a sudden a large bird smacks into the windshield.

Not much more to the story than that, but it was a little creepy :).

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« Reply #153 on: March 04, 2011, 07:54:16 PM »
Hello, guys, Great stories..I have a strange one..please don't think i'm nuts..No evil..but..I am currently working in an old factory that was built for the purpose of Tank building during WW2.  There is an area that was where the Tanks were built, that is mostly vacant now..a narrow hallway leads to an outside door.  I used to take my breaks there.. I work nights..so this was around midnight to 1:00am.  It usually happened when I was reading, or having a coffee..mind relaxed, not thinking of any outside thoughts..when a middle aged man in old shop clothes circa 1940 would appear in the corner of my eye..He was always in a hurry ..going towards the outside door.  If I intentionally watched to see him..he never appeared..only when I wasn't looking?  This old shop had a very bad history of fatalities over the years..Strange!

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« Reply #154 on: April 10, 2011, 08:07:57 PM »
Interesting thread going here. I can only add feeling of dejavu like a poster mentioned feeling it happened before, but not feeling it until it was happening and then thinking it happened already.... like you almost know whats going to happen next but don't remember in time.  It is a dumb feeling. On a tv show once they discussed it and said your body is at that moment producing a chemical that gives you the feeling, but you never get ahead in the thought process. So it is always just that- almost remembering what is next.
But on another note of evil and religion. If there were not un-holy Ghosts or spirits why does the Bible call the Holy spirit -the Holy Spirit and not just the spirit. There must be some other than Holy.... Same with Holy Ghost, Why not just Ghost if there were not others to have to clarify which ghost? I am not doubting my belief, just saying it is in the bible. thejanitor

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« Reply #155 on: April 11, 2011, 04:50:29 PM »
Interesting thread going here. I can only add feeling of dejavu like a poster mentioned feeling it happened before, but not feeling it until it was happening and then thinking it happened already.... like you almost know whats going to happen next but don't remember in time.  It is a dumb feeling. On a tv show once they discussed it and said your body is at that moment producing a chemical that gives you the feeling, but you never get ahead in the thought process. So it is always just that- almost remembering what is next.
But on another note of evil and religion. If there were not un-holy Ghosts or spirits why does the Bible call the Holy spirit -the Holy Spirit and not just the spirit. There must be some other than Holy.... Same with Holy Ghost, Why not just Ghost if there were not others to have to clarify which ghost? I am not doubting my belief, just saying it is in the bible. thejanitor

Amen brother, there is a whole world of unseen spirits who are evil and working overtime in this present day. One only needs to look at the evening news to verify. The Bible speaks clearly of unclean and evil spirits.

"Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."


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« Reply #156 on: April 18, 2011, 01:13:00 AM »
ya my wife try's that on me.

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« Reply #157 on: September 04, 2011, 04:16:33 PM »
 I want to thank everybody for the continued interest and response to this thread.  I don't get to check in very often these days, and it's great to see/hear so much input on a 4 year old thread; clearly, it strikes a universal chord in human experience.
 
 I read an interesting book recently, called "Entangled Minds", by Dean Radin.  It documents the huge amount of scientific research into things like "the sense of being watched" (the most common study, and the most consistently documented to be accurate), the ability to sense what others are thinking at a distance, the ability to anticipate positive or negative events in the future, etc.  The writer is a Phd. psychologist and statistician, so goes pretty heavily into the math and science of the experiments, and how certain the results are. Much of the reading is dry, but the conclusions are interesting.  Overall, experimental results consistently show "psychic" type abilities, with odds against chance in the thousands.  (i.e., "The odds against these results being random chance are x-thousand to one.")  According to Radin, the type and magnitude of the results parallel the measured effects of quantum physics.


A few interesting bits.


The "sense of being stared at / watched" (page 127):  60 (different) experiments with a total of 33,357 trials had  success rates with odds against chance of (get this) 202 octodecillion to one.  (That's not a made up number, it's 2 x 10 to the 59th power.)


"Pre-sentiment" (sensing a good or bad experience about to happen):  Repeatedly demonstrated in the lab, with odds against chance in the 1,000 to 1 range.  Interesting side-note: Humans consistently demonstrated physical responses to events (even if they didn't describe being aware of it) 3 seconds BEFORE the event occurs.  Lower life forms (worms) exhibited the same effect only 1 second before the event. (page 171)


Mental effect on (living and non-living) physical objects: An experiment was designed to test the effects of mental/spiritual healing, by testing growth of healthy cells, which were  focused on by healers, compared to a control group.  The scientists discovered that not only did the Johrei (Japanese spiritual healing) practitioners improve cell growth (with odds against chance of 1,100 to 1), they also affected the random number generators used in and around the lab (proportional to their distance from the machine) with odds against chance of 37,000 to 1. 
People most likely to perform at a high level on tests of this nature?  Open minded, creative people.  Highest scorers sounded like "hippie chicks"!  (Exactly the last people you'd probably believe, when they talked about this stuff.)


There will always be arguments about the why and how of "psychic" experiences, but it doesn't seem like there's much point anymore in arguing "if" they exist.



If your mind is up for a  serious journey, rent the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?".  The simple descriptions of quantum physics, human chemistry, etc., are very worthwhile.  The "weirdness" of quantum physics, that is, time reversal, the ability to be two places at once, perceive things at a distance, create new realities, etc., are also remarkably similar to what many religions describe, and to what users of LSD have reported.  Odd group of overlaps!

 
One result of my study in this area, was reading several books on meditation, eastern religion, etc.  The practices and experiences that many millions of people are looking for turn out to be remarkably similar to what you and I have already experienced in the woods, and at the firing range.  Turns out, most people lack the basic ability to shut up, focus, observe themselves and their surroundings, and be aware. 



Funny; I wasn't seeking God when I went camping or shooting.  But perhaps he was seeking me.

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Re: The Sense of Evil.
« Reply #158 on: September 06, 2011, 01:51:54 AM »
Exactly;  God is always presant, patiently waiting for us to call on him.
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« Reply #159 on: September 06, 2011, 06:15:53 AM »
Seems like we are getting off track.  This was a thread.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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« Reply #160 on: September 11, 2011, 08:57:45 AM »
When I was in my teens I would go camping up in the Sierras with a buddy and his family, and we would usually go to a really nice spot on a creek that required a drive down a rough four wheel road into a canyon.  The campsite was ideal, on the creek and only a few hundred yards from where the creek flowed into a larger river.   There was a trail up the creek that we always took to fish it, and after maybe a half mile it petered out, and it was all bushwhacking from that point. Fishing was naturally really good, and I always enjoyed these trips.
Once, however, on an trip up the creek chasing trout, by myself, I had an unusual experience that I hadn't had before, and never since.   After spending the morning and early afternoon pushing up as far as I could up the canyon, I stopped to eat a candy bar before turning around to go back. At some point, I developed the feeling that something had noticed me and was watching with malice.  At this point I basically ignored it, as I had fished this canyon plenty of times and never had a worry.  After the candy bar, I made my way back down the gulch, fishing my way back, but the feeling that there was something else there with me in the forest grew stronger and more alarming.   It got to the point that after I went around corners or over small rises, I would stop and listen to see if I could hear anything coming.  By the time I got back to the place where there was a trail, I had stopped fishing and was hustling back to camp where I knew there would be other people.  The feeling of danger following didn't go away until I was very close to camp, and I have to admit that the whole experience made me pack a gun on my hip thereafter. 
Now it was likely nothing more than the "dark forest jitters" that came over me that time, because I was way back in the woods pretty far, and me and my camp buddies were very probably the only people that ever set foot in that corner of the world for years, but the feeling of threat was certainly real, and I wonder if I picked up the attention of something that really was there but I couldn't see, like a mountain lion.  Made me wonder about all the stories about a sixth sense that were popular back then.

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« Reply #161 on: September 11, 2011, 11:32:59 AM »
I've hunted those big mountains in the Sierras back as a teen myself.   Believe me; there's plenty of things up there that can scare the pants off ya.  The sunset is rapid and it gets dark as pitch.
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« Reply #162 on: September 11, 2011, 12:14:28 PM »
You know, FourBee, it was the oddest thing.  Even then at that age I had been running around in the woods for years, and never had that happen to me before, or even since.  You are right about how fast it gets dark, and I have had to walk around plenty in the pitch black, but never had that feeling, which occurred during the day.  Whatever it was that made me feel that way, I'm glad it didn't catch up with me, as I was armed only with my fishing pole.

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« Reply #163 on: September 14, 2011, 05:12:46 AM »
I think we all have had an experience in our lives regrding the "unseen" that awaken some primal fear in us. Is it not logical that we merely have kindled an awareness of spiritual beings that are unseen but experienced through other senses.
 
I have experienced this "feeling" many times in my life. I think that the scripture in the New Testamnet that cautions us that our battle is not of the flesh but of "Powers", Principalities, and things of the air"  may be an indication of what we experience during these times.
 
I wandered the woods and streams during most of my life and I have felt both feelings of uneasyness as well as feelings of great joy, peace, and tranquility. I have come to realize that we are "entertained" by spirits both good and evil. Good shooting.

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« Reply #164 on: October 31, 2011, 06:39:10 PM »
So, on the next to last day of field training in Dallas, my trainer and I ran a search warrant for a guy who'd killed his brother in a drug deal.  Best story I'd generated up to that point, including a house without working lights in the daytime, a felon (not the one we wanted) hiding under a bed (I'll never look under a bed expecting NOT to see something again!), a cop who kept "racking" his shotgun "for effect" (while actually emptying it, for lack of effect), and a final exciting finale of finding the guy hidden in a room the detectives didn't believe existed, (I could "feel" him in there) and discovering that I was "covering" him by pointing my .41 magnum at a mirror, when actually, he was behind me!

So, the last day of training, we're at MacDonald's, eager to tell the story to our friend Tommy.  Tommy however, is wound a little bit tighter than normal, and launches into HIS story, of taking a "possessed" woman to jail.  (Quotes because I wasn't there, have no idea what the facts were.)  Tommy swore that she spoke in men's voices, and rotated her head 180 degrees, while dropping the temperature in the car by a bunch.  Tommy's pretty religious, and tried to do a half-ass exorcism on her, right there in the squad car, which would've been big bucks for somebody in today's video world. 

Vince and I are stunned (as are several "nonchalant" listeners nearby!).  I looked at Vince and said, "Damn, Vince!  All we did was catch felons and evade death.  Tommy here was facing eternal DAMNATION!" 

The milk and egg mcmuffin that sprayed out of Vince was the highest praise I could have possibly had.

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« Reply #165 on: July 24, 2012, 02:55:43 AM »
I have had that 'feeling of evil' enough to know that it is true. If you feel it, TRUST IT!

I have also had that 'knowing' of something bad happening to somebody I cared about.

There are many things that happen that we CAN NOT explain logically. Only somebody who has truly experienced them can be really sure of their existence.


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« Reply #166 on: August 27, 2012, 05:37:15 AM »
whatever it is, or whatever you want
to call it, it's there.
18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

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« Reply #167 on: October 05, 2012, 03:25:40 PM »
Have any of you ever heard of an evil manifestation called a " plague " ? And I am not talking about what ravaged most of Europe in the Middle Ages .
In the facility where I used to work we had a patient that had experienced one of these in her own home . Other than her accounting of what had happened ,we could not find anything wrong with her both mentally or physically . And she had never been prone to telling lies or fabricating anything that was untrue.  Her account of one of these was very vivid and extremely disturbing .
Finally it was a Priest from the old school days who knew what it was that she was referring to .
He was the one that called it by that name , then he told us it was a combination of spells and sorcery usually used by those in league with evil .
I was just wondering if any of you guys had ever heard of this before ?






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« Reply #168 on: October 22, 2012, 06:28:29 PM »
I do know that evil exist in many forms and that spirits are very real. There are those here who know of the leagues formed with these spirits by people who seek the powers offered by them.
One person here has told stories of Wiccan involvement.
As real as God is--so are spirits.
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« Reply #169 on: October 22, 2012, 07:34:31 PM »
I am a Realtor and was in a home Sunday with a client when their 3.5 year old daughter said she saw a boy in the bedroom.  We were the only people in the house.  The little girl was frightened and said there was a boy in the room two more times.  It was one of those scenarios that you see happening but it just doesn't quite register in your brain on what is exactly happening.


You could tell that who ever lived there was elderly.  I called the other Realtor and I was told that the seller passed away in the room that girl saw the boy.  They will be buying a different home.


This is one of those things you hear about but I witnessed it first hand.


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« Reply #170 on: October 23, 2012, 04:22:02 AM »
Thanks for your post......
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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« Reply #171 on: October 23, 2012, 02:11:21 PM »
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« Reply #172 on: October 31, 2012, 07:17:38 PM »
A big thanks to those who keep adding to the stories!  I check in periodically, and am very gratified to see the topic alive and well; lurching through the forum with the smell of fear in its wake.  Happy Halloween!

p.s. The "plague" comment drew my attention, because when I described the first story in this thread to some folks who were involved in Wicca and other occult studies, they speculated among themselves about the possibility that a previous (or current) owner was a follower of occult beliefs, who had infested the places with the sense of evil to drive people away.  (Worked on me!) 

Knowing what I do now about studies into "conditioned spaces", I don't doubt this could happen. 

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« Reply #173 on: December 29, 2012, 06:00:01 AM »
Okay, I had something weird happen to me last month. My band had played a job at a club we play frequently and I was driving home at about 1:00am. I live in the far northern Idaho mountains and I was driving home on a dirt road that runs through a valley with two lakes in it. There are a few homes along the road, but many stretches are just miles and miles of driving through the woods and some scattered open spots. I had a couple of drinks over the course of the night (comes with the job) but was no way drunk. I had to stop and pee at one point and it was a nice moonlit night. I was out in the middle of nowhere so I just pulled over to the side of the road to do my business.
I was in the act, so to speak, when I heard footsteps behind me, fairly close and coming my way. I remember feeling scared. The next thing I knew I was driving my car and was about 2 miles further away from where I had stopped (I've been driving this road and hunting and fishing the immediate area for over 20 years and know the area quite well). It was like I 'came to' and was back in the car, driving along, my pants still unzipped and feeling very out of sorts. I don't remember getting back into the car, starting it or driving away. All I remember is peeing, footsteps behind me and then I was driving along the road. It freaked me out, to say the least.
I didn't tell my wife about it for a couple of days. I told the other band members about the incident later and they started laughing and talking about Bigfoot and aliens and Elvis in a UFO and so forth.
I was driving the same stretch a few weeks ago during daylight and when I got to the spot I got out and walked around a little. Seemed normal. I haven't driven that way at night for a while - on purpose. Finding this thread is rather cool, I don't feel like the Lone Ranger so much now.
I've always been skeptical about this sort of stuff and nothing remotely like this has ever happened to me in my 59 years. I may have to alter some of my views a bit...


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« Reply #174 on: December 30, 2012, 01:02:29 PM »
I  SUSPECT  SOME HOMOSEXUALL PUT A RUFFY  IN YOUR DRINK AT THE BAR


see your proctologist
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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« Reply #175 on: December 30, 2012, 11:03:55 PM »
I  SUSPECT  SOME HOMOSEXUALL PUT A RUFFY  IN YOUR DRINK AT THE BAR


see your proctologist


 A "ruffy?" Is that what those little umbrellas are called?


 Yeah, I imagine if you downed one by mistake with your drink and it ended up in the open position, a proctologist's services might could be useful to extract it. Might be "ruff" to remove on your own; at least without a mirror and good pair of tongs.
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« Reply #176 on: December 31, 2012, 02:29:15 AM »
I'm sorry these fellows are so disrespectful.  Thanks for sharing your story.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

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« Reply #177 on: December 31, 2012, 02:50:00 AM »
SORRY IF I WAS TAKEN AS DISRESPECTFULL
I JUST HAVE A WARPED SINCE OF HOMOR......GUESS  THIS  ISN'T THE HOMOR SECTION


in  all seriousness.....keep an eye on yourself  if this  happens again
could be a mini stroke  or   most likely simple highway hypnisis


or  it could  be  some strange occurance

when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #178 on: December 31, 2012, 01:16:31 PM »
Swampman,

Back on the first page you mentioned have this feeling while a New Echota. My step father live at New Echota as a young boy (he is now 88) and his father worked there. I wonder if this could have been the same house. I don't know if the one he lived in had a basement or not or if he ever had any odd feelings or occurances while there. I will have to ask next time I talk to him if I remember to.

Bruce
Lord, Please help me
Keep my small mind open
and my big mouth shut.

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Re: The Sense of Evil.
« Reply #179 on: January 03, 2013, 05:05:18 AM »
Aw hell, I don't feel disrespected. Pretty funny stuff, guys. Whatever it was it was one of the weirder things that ever happened to me. After 41 years of being a rock&roll musician I doubt that anything they put in my drink would have affected me very much...a small stroke - I hadn't thought of that. It would have been rather embarrasing to have had a stroke and have somebody find me with my pants undone...uh oh, leaving myself open to another joke there, I'm afraid...


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