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Offline BUSTER51

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« on: May 23, 2006, 09:49:28 AM »
Do I need to glass be the stock on my CZ american in .458 Lott ? I bought it new in 2005 and have shot it 11 times .I don't want it to crack ,have they corrected that problem yet ? If I do glass bed it what is the best stuff to use and are there step by step instructions ?

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 11:05:15 AM »
Buster,

I just typed a long response to your question, but got bumped off line before I could submit it.  I hate it when that happens!

Short answer is, yes, and do not delay in getting that done.  As well as the glass bedding, which was not enough on it's own in my .458 Win., get some crossbolts put into that stock, and I believe it is a good idea to have a steel bolt put down through the grip as well.  Leave a bit of relief space between the end of the tang, and the stock, and pay particular attention to the web of wood between the magazine, and trigger mortices.  It's very thin and fragile there, and prone to cracking.

Frankly, I am surpised that it hasn't cracked on you yet, although, if you take it out of the stock, and inspect that thin web of wood carefully, you might find it has started.  Mine did, even after a basic glass bedding job.  It needs those crossbolts!

I wish you the best of luck with your new Lott.  Reinforce that stock, and it will last! :D

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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 08:51:25 AM »
Thanks,any detailed pictures,instructions or diagrames would be helpful.why the hell would CZ sell a rifle that would crack the stock and injure it's owner? I have always bought Remingtons,Weatherbys,Sako's,Winchester's ,Browning's ,Sig's,Styer's, Marlins and Tika's and never had a problem .and yes I have big mag heavy kickers ,460Weatherby ,450Marlin,458 win mag,375 RUM and never had to worry about the stock comeing apart . the bargin CZ may not be such a good deal in the end . I am not going to shoot this CZ again b4 changeing the stock or modifying the factory stock . :(  :(

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 05:55:55 AM »
Buster,

I'll briefly go over what I did to place some reinforcement into the stock.  I used a Dremel tool with a small burr head cutter to make the necessary mortices for the internal cross bolts, and used 3/16" All thread for the bolt material, and 3/8" All thread for the bolt down the grip section.  All were glassed in with Brownell's Acra Glass.

From the magazine side, about 1/3 the way up from bottom, route out a mortice at least half way through that web of wood in front of the trigger mortice.  Cut your All thread, or bolts long enough to extend into the side wood.  You will have to route out a raceway in order to get these into place.

Just in front of the rear action screw, from the top, route out a similar mortice for that crossbolt as well.  Also, if you want to reinforce the grip, remove the steel pillar from the rear action screw hole, then drill an appropriate sized hole down through the grip, but obviously, not through to the bottom.  You can replace that pillar after the bolt and glass filled hole has cured.

De-grease your bolts before glassing into place.  Do all of this before you do the basic bedding job.  I mixed a considerable amount of fiberglass strands and flock into my bedding compound, which I believe increases its strength substantially.  I also used fiberglass matting imbedded in bedding compound to wrap the insides of the magazine and trigger mortices in an effort to stiffen these areas.  After 300 rounds through the rifle, it seems like it is finally strong enough to take the abuse.  

One other suggestion I have for anyone shooting one of these rifles, is to get that front sling stud the hell out of there.  Depending on how you grasp the rifle, it may or may not ruin your day.  I relocated mine to the end of the forearm after it took a 1/4" chunk out of my finger.  Ouch! :eek:  And since it will be screwed into the end grain of the wood, I suggest that you route out a recess from the barrel channel above, and through, to that new stud location, and fill that with glass as well.  It will not tear out if done properly.

It is still a lot of rifle for the money, but they do need some attention to make them into the strong, reliable rifles that we need them to be.

Once again, best of luck with your project! :D

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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2006, 10:01:21 AM »
After a lot of research and help from many people on this forum and others I have come to belive a McMillan stock is the way to go. they are 5.5 miles from my house and they have a black one in stock ,it is more than I want to spend but is the best cure for the CZ . If anyone at CZ is reading this shame on you for selling rifles with known dangerous defective stocks ,rest assured I will not be purchaseing any more CZ products in the future . and for any who has one I would advise takeing the factory stock off and checking it closely before you get injured or worse . :cry:  :evil:

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 11:47:48 AM »
I have a CZ 416 Rigby and had it glass bedded, it is one of the most accurate rifles I own. I highly recommend getting the .458 Lott bedded.  :D
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