New rimfire barrels working on SB-2s?

[myarmor]

Just saw this while cruising the newly reorganized site:
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Combos/barrel3.aspx

I wonder if these rimfire barrels will be availible through the program?
I don't see why they couldn't be :?
-Aaron

[cheatermk3]

I just got off the phone customer service, I ordered a long forend and three ultra rails w/hammer extensions.

I also asked about the rimfire barrels, whether they would be available in the accessory program.  I spoke with John who said that these combo guns are an "item all to themselves" and that the only barrels that can be fitted to these frames are those in the same caliber as the ones supplied.  He said that the fitting tolerances were much tighter in order to get them to work.

In other words, for right now, no.

I don't get it but that's the way it was 'splained to me.

[Mac11700]

I wouldn't hold your breath on these anytime soon..and I don't see how they are going to get them to work worth a hoot with the firing pin as it is on a rimfire frame and a centerfire frame...I would be willing to make a wager they have some problems with them if & when they release them..

Mac

[myarmor]

Humm..so these aren't "labeled" SB-2 then I take it? Yet the receiver would have to be strong enough to handle the 223s pressures.
I was thinking about this after I seen them today, and thought to myself...  "That would be nice to have the option of getting a rimfire barrel fitted to an SB-2 frame. But with the problem of the firing pin located at a different point, I guess they had to make these barrels with the chamber offset a little to hit the rim. So only a barrel change would be made....surely they wouldn't start producing another receiver type? As if the SB-1 and SB-2's, aside from the SB-2 of a 10ga, and then the Rimfire receiver weren't enough??

[cheatermk3]

I came away from my conversation with CS today with the feeling that they have put the cart before the horse; I mean that they had an idea to offer something that may turn into a customer relations nightmare, if they ever do actually make any of the rf/cf combos.

[myarmor]

Sounds like a confusing move. On one hand you have a nice little combo that will attrack new buyers, yet on the other it's going to cause more confusion for them wanting to send in their receiver to get other barrels fitted. :?
Good illustration too, very fitting

[cheatermk3]

I think what he said was this:

-The rimfire barrels offered for these combo guns will only be fitted to  these combo receivers.

- The combo receivers may be fitted with any of the barrels offered with these combo guns.  They will not be fitted with any barrels not offered in this group of guns.  

This is how I interpreted our conversation.  I don't want to quote what was actually said because I don't remember exactly.  

It doesn't make sense to me, but I do think that the idea of a set of barrels for a receiver will be very attractive to folks looking for an outfit that can "do it all".

We all know that the factory does things for their own reasons, that really don't make sense to us handiholics.  They also tell us that  barrels have to be fitted at the factory...not to shoot handloads...

[trotterlg]

They already offer a rimfire combo CF shotgun don't they, seems I have seen a 410 and 22 with the 22 offset to work.  Larry

[Couger]

I've had the same thoughts as Trotterlg ......



Are the .22 LR barrels for the three-gun combo going to be cut 'off-center' like they are for the .22LR/.410 combo's?

As for extra barrels, I'd be surprised if other CF barrels couldn't be fitted.

[quickdtoo]

If they're like the Versa-pack 22Lr/.410, NEF/H&R won't fit any barrels to the that frame except the OEM barrels. Whether other barrels could be fitted, dunno. Someone will have to be a guinea pig! :lol:

Tim

[Sourdough]

Took a look at the versa pak 22-410.  The 22 barrel is offset so the firing pin will align with the cartridge.  Looks like a standard frame to me.  Personally I think an SB2 frame would work.

[Busta]

Took a look at the versa pak 22-410.  The 22 barrel is offset so the firing pin will align with the cartridge.  Looks like a standard frame to me.  Personally I think an SB2 frame would work.

Roggy,

That is a standard SB1 frame you are talking about on Versa-Pack, I take it? Of course the new Combo 3-Packs would have to be essentially a SB2 frame, unless they are making a new frame all together. I doubt that they would make one with a selective firing pin for rim fire and center fire, but that has not been ruled out that I am aware of either. The barrels in the pictures all look to have the same barrel stub and the barrels look centered with the chambers from the outside. Unless the rim fire bores are bored off center all the way through the barrels.

Doesn't the Versa pack have a lop-sided chamber with the bore centered in the barrel?

[Couger]

I for one, would be surprised if NEF made a special receiver for the 3-G combo's.  Not trying to be argumentative.

Did a comparison of the six 3-gun combo's offered with the seven 2-gun combo's also offered by NEF.  I came away thinking they're using std. SB-one's and two's, and the way the product-combo's are lsited are what's "confusing."

Also, depending on how exact a receiver and barrel-fit needs to be, I could see NEF's inspectors hand-selecting which receivers might be used for that program/product.

As for SB-1's versus SB-2's, I thought DIMENSIONALLY they are the same, but that SB-2's are made of tougher heat-tempered steel able to handle the higher pressures of the full-size CF cartridges offered.